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Re: Clashes break out at summit protest |
Don Gabacho wrote:
On Aug 22, 1:53 pm, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Don Gabacho" <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
news:1187652951.489114.313660@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Some of the demonstrators went to designated protest areas - one in an
empty field and the other a picnic area - while others chose to walk
down Route 148 toward the hotel.
Some protesters decried the use of designated protest areas, calling
them "protest pens."
"They're like cages and they want to keep people in an area where they
can manage them," said Trevor Hach=E9, who was part of a caravan of
cyclists who rode from Ottawa to join the protest. "We're going to
protest where we want to protest. It's our democratic right."
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Protest pens? What's next protest prisons?
Nothing new---beginning with George W. Bush. During his second
campaign it had come routine for Bush to do the same. For only one
example: do a search using as keywords New York City, Republican
Convention, Underpass."
<http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060202.html> wrote:
Protesters are accusing police of using undercover agents to provoke
violent confrontations at the North American leaders' summit in
Montebello, Que. The video of the events leading to the accusation can
be found online.
Hurry get this video copied before it's gone :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSt1-WTc1kow
Harpers already has a story about it up:
http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=3D0082
Much More here:
http://www.metafilter.com/64037/I-Predict-a-Riot
-<http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060202.html>
Agents provocateurs active at Montebello?
Report of official cameraperson being
roughed up follows videos from earlier
in day of alleged police agents
assaulting union leader.
MONTEBELLO, QUEBEC, August 21:
Legitimate protestors at the Montebello
summit talks believe they have been
inflitrated and victimized by plainclothes
agents of the police or security forces.
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-2.html
http://www.spp.gov/
An amateur video posted on the website
Youtube.com, yesterday, and entitled
"Stop SPP Protest - Union Leader stops
provocateurs" shows a national union
president confronted and assaulted by
masked men while attempting to keep
protestors within boundaries set by
authorities. The three men, dressed like
"Black Bloc" anarchist protestors, defied
Dave Coles, the President of the
Communications, Energy and
Paperworkers of Canada,
http://www.cep.ca/index_e.html
who directed them to stay in their
designated area. "Take your mask off,
brother," and "Put the rock down," Coles
said repeatedly. The video shows one of
the men, in a ball cap with the word
"Spike" on it, hanging onto the bandana
over his face and forcefully shoving Coles
as he attempted to keep order.
Stuart Trew, of the Council of Canadians,
www.canadians.org/publications/CP/2007/spring/TILMA.html
http://www.canadians.org/ saw the video and
spoke with people who were there.
"You'll hear them [the real "black flag anarchist"
protestors from Quebec] screaming 'Policier,
policier!' [police]. Eventually Coles looks the guy
in the eyes and says 'You're a police officer'."
As Trew said, "They slip behind and start nudging
the police line, you can't see if they're saying
anything because of their bandanas, the police
let them through eventually and take them down
to the ground, and appear to arrest them."
Trew points out that two agitators had matching
bandanas and that there was "a substantial size
difference, and what looks likes an age
difference" from other anarchist protestors,
but admits it is almost impossible to prove
they were police officers.
http://www.ipa.ca/lawenflinks.php
The protest legal aid committee, however,
received no report from authorities of their
arrests, lending further credence to allegations
the two were not genuine protestors.
"Yes, these were definitely agent provocateurs,
cops, and legal folks have no record of these
supposed arrests," said Peoples Global Action (PGA)
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/
spokesperson John Hollingsworth
<jholling@ccs.carleton.ca> at the Indie Media Centre.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
http://ontario.indymedia.ca/twiki/bin/view/Ontario
[Peoples' Global Action (PGA) is the name of a
worldwide co-ordination of radical social movements,
grassroots campaigns and direct actions in resistance
to capitalism and for social and environmental justice.
PGA is part of the so-called anti-globalization movement.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples'_Global_Action>]
Around 5 pm the same day, Canadian Press
reported a video camera operator had been
assaulted while running the "ProtestCam"
camera that provided a video feed to the
conference inside the Chateau Montebello.
Although witnesses report the actual assault
was done by a demonstrator, Hollingsworth
says the demonstrator was provoked by his
girlfriend having just been struck by a rubber
bullet fired by police. It is often the case, he says,
that police actions "provoke people into making
stupid mistakes" which "create an excuse or
pretext for police to sweep the area" with tear
gas and rubber bullets.
There were, however, other reports of agents
provocateurs among the protestors. Dan Sawyer,
http://www.cpcml.ca/Tmld2004/D34191.htm
a member of PGA, told HarperIndex.ca
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/en/
"Our group did 'out' about three undercovers
in the Black Bloc and pushed them back into
the police line, and then they walked off."
Protest organizers, most of whom appear to
be there to protest the Security and Prosperity
Partnership http://www.spp.gov/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-2.html
under discussion, worry that disorder at the
protest, already constrained by extremely
tight security, will discredit them.
Stephen Harper, according to the CP story
and on TV news, dismissed the protest as "sad".
"I've heard it's nothing," the prime minister was
heard to say, when asked about the protest.
"A couple hundred? It's sad."
Most reports put the figures at well above 1,000,
although roadblocks have minimized public
access from the main highway and into the
village of Montebello. The RCMP have denied
protest organizers the use of public buildings
and have erected massive barricades to
keep protestors at bay.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/
By minimizing the significance, seriousness
and size of the protest movement against his
meeting with George W. Bush and Felipe Calderon, Stephen Harper
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-2.html
is attempting to manage the messages coming from his summit.
http://www.spp.gov/
Whether he succeeds depends on which spectacle
is seen as sadder: the protests - or the Prime Minister
holding secret meetings about subsuming the
Canadian military, Canadian energy,
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/index.html
http://www.cepa.com/ - http://www.energy.ca/
and important Canadian laws to the dictates of the US.
Related individuals, organizations and significant events
SPP is built around secrecy and US military command - law expert
http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=3D0081
Deep integration - TILMA and SPP to bring in rules to let corporations
challenge our laws
http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=3D0056
Harper Conservative vs. Public Values Frame
Sad / Agents provacaters
http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=3D0082
Security / Secrecy, police tactics
http://www.policecouncil.ca/pages/latest.html
Links and sources
Stop SPP Protest - Union Leader stops provocateurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSt1-WTc1kow#
Harper dismisses 'sad' summit protest as police fire tear gas
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070820/national/montebello_summit
Harper Index (HarperIndex.ca) is a project
of the Golden Lake Institute and the
online publication StraightGoods.ca
http://www.straightgoods.ca/index.cfm
http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=3D0082
http://www.canadians.org/index.html
http://www.canadians.org/publications/CP/2007/spring/TILMA.html
http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/photos_Aug_2007/index.html
http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/photos_Aug_2007/pages/aug20-1....
"Cointelpro," all over again.
http://tinyurl.com/2jnhm3
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAI410A.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&q=3DCointelpro&btnG=3DSearch
Fascism then. Fascism now?
When people think of fascism, they imagine
Rows of goose-stepping storm troopers and
puffy-chested dictators. What they don't see
is the economic and political process that
leads to the nightmare. ...
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=3D20051128204427172
Observing political and economic discourse
in North America since the 1970s leads to an
inescapable conclusion: The vast bulk of
legislative activity favours the interests of
large commercial enterprises. Big business
is very well off, and successive Canadian and
U=2ES. governments, of whatever political stripe,
have made this their primary objective for
at least the past 25 years.
http://www.ipa.ca/lawenflinks.php
Marjorie Cohn's latest book, is titled
"Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law."
It provides a thorough, impressive and incisive account
of the most important ways the Bush administration
defied, defiled and weakened the rule of law and by so
doing hurtled the nation toward tyranny. This book is
an essential guide to their lawless record, its threat
to the nation and world, and the desperate need to
confront it, challenge it and remove it from office
before it's too late. The stakes couldn't be
greater - the fate of the republic hangs by
a thread as well as all humanity if people of
conscience fail to act and swiftly. ...
http://tinyurl.com/2n9kam
The FBI's COINTELPRO (1956-1971)
became public thanks to a mysterious
group that in August 1971 stole the
files from the FBI Media Pennsylvania office
and circulated them. When I read a news story
about the FBI "taking cues from the CIA to recruit
thousands of covert informants in the United States
as part of a sprawling effort to boost its intelligence
capabilities," (ABCNews.com July 25) I had a deja vu experience. ...
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=3D72&ItemID=3D13509
Wii'nimkiikaa Pulls Its Site From Resist.ca
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=3D2007082019402750
Mae Brussel
http://www.umsl.edu/~thomaskp/lpage.htm
http://www.maebrussell.com/
Solar Energy Production on
the Moon for Cis-Lunar Space
http://tinyurl.com/26c38n
..=2E......................................
The Institute for Space and Nuclear Power Studies
http://www.unm.edu/~isnps/
http://www.unm.edu/~ISNPS/conferences/conferencee.html
CE01. Joint C/E-Conference Session: Nuclear
Technology in Support of Space Colonization
Chair: TBD
Co-Chair: Anne Garber, NASA Marshall
Space Flight Center, AL,
256-544-0665,
Nuclear technology has the theoretical potential
to enable exploration, utilization, and colonization
of the entire solar system. In addition, innovative
concepts have been proposed for using nuclear
technology to reach several of the nearer star
systems within a few hundred years.
This session will explore the potential use
of nuclear technology in support of space
colonization. Topics of interest include both
advanced nuclear power systems and
advanced nuclear propulsion systems.
Advanced missions, anticipated requirements,
and integrated scenarios for colonization are
also of interest. Papers that discuss required
technologies and options for developing
those technologies are also encouraged.
http://www.unm.edu/~ISNPS/conferences/conferencee.html
E12. The Why: "Market Pull"
Moon Development
Opportunities and Barriers:
Jamestown On the Moon and Beyond
Chair: Piero Spillantini, University of Florence,
Florence, Italy, + 39 055 457 2000,
Co-Chair: TBD
Over the past four years members of the SCTC
have identified the Moon is as the single, most
important "High Ground" as to the strategic
interests of the United States in the 21st century
and beyond. No other "location" on Earth or in
Space comes even close to the overarching,
dominant place the Moon has in assuring peace,
economic security and resolving conflicts in
favor of US interests and free market
democracies in the decades and centuries ahead.
The Moon is dominant in (a) Communications,
Navigation and Data Base(s) applications and
extensions of current Leo, HEO and
Geosynchronous infra-structures - a $6 to
10$ billion global industry; (b) Observations,
be it Weather, Earth resources, Environmental
and Disaster warning and assessment capabilities,
Sun-Earth observations, Ocean monitoring etc.;
(c) Energy, be it Solar, Nuclear fission or
potentially fusion using the 3He sources,
for use on the Moon, from the Moon and for
Earth; and (d) Habitats and Closed Ecological
Life Support Systems, extending mankind's
presence from Earth to the Moon and possibly
beyond into the Solar system.
http://www.unm.edu/~ISNPS/conferences/conferencee.html
University of New Mexico
Institute for Space & Nuclear
Power Studies
Farris Engineering Center
Room 239, MSC01-1120
Albuquerque, NM 87131
Phone: 505.277.0446
Fax: 505.277.2814
http://www.unm.edu/~isnps/
New Details of U.S. Moon-Base
Project Reveal Nuclear Intentions
http://tpr.typepad.com/thepeacockreport/2006/03/new_details_of_.html
The first steps toward building a manned lunar base
and eventually sending astronauts to Mars quietly
unfolded in recent days, as NASA issued a call to
industry and academia for proposals on how to best
proceed with those projects. Although President Bush
in January revealed his preliminary intentions to
jump-start future U.S. space missions, The Peacock
Report (TPR) this week obtained planning documents
http://prod.nais.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/eps/synopsis.cgi?acqid=3D119515
revealing the possibility of constructing nuclear power
plants on the moon, where "both human and robotic
agents" would operate technology production facilities.
NASA has begun searching for a contractor to
first devise a Lunar Base Report, which would
provide specifications and graphic renderings
of a conceptual lunar base. The creation of what
are known as "In-Situ Resource Utilization (ISRU)
production facilities," which would extract mineral
and other resources from the moon and Mars
to produce materials, also will be addressed
via the report. Additionally, it would evaluate
the potential role of private, commercial
ventures in outer space. ...
http://tpr.typepad.com/thepeacockreport/2006/03/new_details_of_.html
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Illuminatus!
http://www.deepleafaudio.com/
http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml
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22 Aug 2007 09:39:33 PM |
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Could have been plain-clothes federales.
Did they speak at all?
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22 Aug 2007 09:43:21 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
Did they speak at all?
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23 Aug 2007 12:36:19 PM |
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"" www.freedomtofascism.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, DG
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The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
Did they speak at all?
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Post Menopausal Neo-Nazi wrote:
Top National Guard aide suspended for Web posts
Airman discusses 'slaughter,' denigrates minorities on site
By Thomas Peele, STAFF WRITER
Article Last Updated: 08/23/2007 02:40:37 AM PDT
http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_6696793
The California National Guard placed on leave the
personal assistant to its top general on Wednesday
and launched an investigation hours after MediaNews
questioned a Web site he maintains called
"Howtokillpeople.com" that advocates
mass violence.
"I, honestly, would like nothing more than to assist
in the wholesale slaughter of every idiot on the face
of the planet," Senior Airman Travis Gruber of
Sacramento writes on the site. In other postings
and in a related blog, Gruber denigrates
African Americans, Jews, Asians, women,
gays and people with physical handicaps.
Until Wednesday, Gruber was the personal assistant
and driver to Major Gen. William H. Wade II, the
guard's commanding officer. The job gave Gruber
access to the state's leaders, such as
Arnold Schwarzenegger, whom he trashes
in a posting that questions the governor's intelligence.
Military law forbids soldiers from using "contemptuous
words" about civilian leaders.
Gruber, who says on the Web site that he's 26,
does not identify himself in his postings as a
National Guard member nor does he mention
Wade by name, but refers to his boss as
"the big guy." He makes references to a job that
allows him occasional access to the
governor and others.
Gruber blogged that when once ordered to
drive "the big guy" to Oakland earlier this year,
he loaded a shotgun with extra shells and filled
a pistol "to the brim with hollow-point" bullets
because he feared entering the city unarmed.
In a separate Web posting, he wrote of a woman
who once approached him with a question as he
waited for Wade at the state Capitol and that he
later regretted not "crushing her windpipe" and
slamming his car door into her legs
for bothering him.
After learning of the Web site Wednesday,
the guard placed Gruber on paid administrative
leave pending the outcome of an investigation,
said. Lt. Col. Jon Siepmann, a spokesman.
Investigators will "look into the content of the
Web site and make a determination into whether
any of it is a violation of military law and
regulations," Siepmann said.
Gruber, in a statement Siepmann issued,
said he is "sorry if I have misrepresented
or left a black mark on the California Military
Department. I was under the impression that
I was writing anonymously."
http://howtokillpeople.com/bio/
http://howtokillpeople.com/my-blog/
http://howtokillpeople.com/
http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_6696793
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23 Aug 2007 08:28:49 PM |
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On Aug 23, 1:36 pm, HVAC <har...@k.st> wrote:
""www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, DG
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
Did they speak at all?
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Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
Post Menopausal Neo-Nazi wrote:
Top National Guard aide suspended for Web posts
Airman discusses 'slaughter,' denigrates minorities on site
By Thomas Peele, STAFF WRITER
Article Last Updated: 08/23/2007 02:40:37 AM PDThttp://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_6696793
The California National Guard placed on leave the
personal assistant to its top general on Wednesday
and launched an investigation hours after MediaNews
questioned a Web site he maintains called
"Howtokillpeople.com" that advocates
mass violence.
"I, honestly, would like nothing more than to assist
in the wholesale slaughter of every idiot on the face
of the planet," Senior Airman Travis Gruber of
Sacramento writes on the site. In other postings
and in a related blog, Gruber denigrates
African Americans, Jews, Asians, women,
gays and people with physical handicaps.
Until Wednesday, Gruber was the personal assistant
and driver to Major Gen. William H. Wade II, the
guard's commanding officer. The job gave Gruber
access to the state's leaders, such as
Arnold Schwarzenegger, whom he trashes
in a posting that questions the governor's intelligence.
Military law forbids soldiers from using "contemptuous
words" about civilian leaders.
Gruber, who says on the Web site that he's 26,
does not identify himself in his postings as a
National Guard member nor does he mention
Wade by name, but refers to his boss as
"the big guy." He makes references to a job that
allows him occasional access to the
governor and others.
Gruber blogged that when once ordered to
drive "the big guy" to Oakland earlier this year,
he loaded a shotgun with extra shells and filled
a pistol "to the brim with hollow-point" bullets
because he feared entering the city unarmed.
In a separate Web posting, he wrote of a woman
who once approached him with a question as he
waited for Wade at the state Capitol and that he
later regretted not "crushing her windpipe" and
slamming his car door into her legs
for bothering him.
After learning of the Web site Wednesday,
the guard placed Gruber on paid administrative
leave pending the outcome of an investigation,
said. Lt. Col. Jon Siepmann, a spokesman.
Investigators will "look into the content of the
Web site and make a determination into whether
any of it is a violation of military law and
regulations," Siepmann said.
Gruber, in a statement Siepmann issued,
said he is "sorry if I have misrepresented
or left a black mark on the California Military
Department. I was under the impression that
I was writing anonymously."http://howtokillpeople.com/bio/http://howtokillpeople.com/my-blog/http://howtokillpeople.com/http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_6696793
What else do you expect from people who are governed by a government
who wantonly and indiscriminately kills people, rapes children, and no
regard for life or the living?
Monkey see, monkey do.
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23 Aug 2007 07:28:45 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:36:19 -0700, HVAC <harlow@k.st> wrote:
Post<snipper doodles>
You have a problem, pal?
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22 Aug 2007 09:48:23 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
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23 Aug 2007 12:49:47 PM |
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On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
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23 Aug 2007 04:54:55 PM |
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Don Gabacho wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence from
our 'high risk' resident, post-menopausal neo-Nazi hermana:
" www.freedomtofascism.com " <truth@r.us>
http://tinyurl.com/27co27
Orthodox Jews Denounce 'Israel' and its Policies
http://www.nkusa.org/
"On the Jewish fast day of the ninth of 'Av',
commemorating the destruction of the
historic Jewish temple in Jerusalem,
thousands of Jews gathered opposite the
Israeli consulate in New York City to protests
against the existence of the state of Israel
and its ongoing persecution of religious Jews..."
http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/20070724.cfm
http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topics/Benjamin+Netanyahu
The American Nazi Party is a legally based
political and educational organization that
claims to be in place to save the white race,
the Aryan Republic, and our Western-European
cultural heritage.
Their motto is the Fourteen Words.
"As the world enemy wages war against the
White Race and Western Civilization in every
corner of the world, we have found that the
ONLY WAY to shock our people awake is
through BOLD ACTION. Too many others
would rather try to TALK the problem away,
while we realize that the time has
come to FIGHT!
http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/cayc/index.htm
Schedule of Upcoming Extremist Events: 2007
http://www.adl.org/learn/Events_2001/events_2003_flashmap.asp
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23 Aug 2007 08:38:43 PM |
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On Aug 23, 5:54 pm, HVAC <har...@k.st> wrote:
neo-Nazi
I'm for killing all of the (neo) Nazi Zionists.
How about you?
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Healing Song:
Prayer (from the Navajo healing ceremony called Night Chant)
Tsegihi,
House made of dawn.
House made of evening light.
House made of the dark cloud.
House made of male rain.
House made of dark mist.
House made of female rain.
House made of pollen.
House made of grasshoppers.
Dark cloud is at the door.
The trail out of it is dark cloud.
The zigzag lightning stands high upon it.
Male deity!
Your offering I make.
I have prepared a smoke for you.
Restore my feet for me.
Restore my legs for me.
Restore my body for me.
Restore my mind for me.
This very day take out your spell for me.
Your spell remove for me.
You have taken it away for me.
Far off it has gone.
Happily I recover.
Happily my interior becomes cool.
Happily I go forth.
My interior feeling cool, may I walk.
No longer sore, may I walk.
Impervious to pain, may I walk.
With lively feeling may I walk.
As it used to be long ago, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Happily, with abundant dark clouds, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant showers, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant plants, may I walk.
Happily, on a trail of pollen, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Being as it used to be long ago, may I walk.
May it be beautiful before me
May it be beautiful behind me.
May it be beautiful below me.
May it be beautiful above me.
With it be beautiful all around me.
In beauty it is finished.
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last song of Sitting Bull
A warrior
I have been.
Now
it is all over.
A hard time
I have.
(Teton Sioux)
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Sitting Bull sang this, his last song, after he had
surrendered to the United States authorities
some time after the Custer massacre.
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ghost dance song
The whirlwind! the whirlwind!
The new earth comes into being swiftly as snow.
The new earth comes into being quietly as snow.
(Paiute)
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23 Aug 2007 09:56:20 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:22:09 -0700, Indrid Cold
<demohassan@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:
Healing
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one."
-- Spock
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24 Aug 2007 12:34:07 PM |
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Unlike the usual hate spewed on this newsgroup
(alt.politics.immigration) that was refreshing. I've never
read any native american poetry.
"Indrid Cold" <demohassan@yahoo.com.mx> wrote in message
news:1187922129.141441.215210@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Healing Song:
Prayer (from the Navajo healing ceremony called Night Chant)
Tsegihi,
House made of dawn.
House made of evening light.
House made of the dark cloud.
House made of male rain.
House made of dark mist.
House made of female rain.
House made of pollen.
House made of grasshoppers.
Dark cloud is at the door.
The trail out of it is dark cloud.
The zigzag lightning stands high upon it.
Male deity!
Your offering I make.
I have prepared a smoke for you.
Restore my feet for me.
Restore my legs for me.
Restore my body for me.
Restore my mind for me.
This very day take out your spell for me.
Your spell remove for me.
You have taken it away for me.
Far off it has gone.
Happily I recover.
Happily my interior becomes cool.
Happily I go forth.
My interior feeling cool, may I walk.
No longer sore, may I walk.
Impervious to pain, may I walk.
With lively feeling may I walk.
As it used to be long ago, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Happily, with abundant dark clouds, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant showers, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant plants, may I walk.
Happily, on a trail of pollen, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Being as it used to be long ago, may I walk.
May it be beautiful before me
May it be beautiful behind me.
May it be beautiful below me.
May it be beautiful above me.
With it be beautiful all around me.
In beauty it is finished.
***********************************************
last song of Sitting Bull
A warrior
I have been.
Now
it is all over.
A hard time
I have.
(Teton Sioux)
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Sitting Bull sang this, his last song, after he had
surrendered to the United States authorities
some time after the Custer massacre.
***********************************************
ghost dance song
The whirlwind! the whirlwind!
The new earth comes into being swiftly as snow.
The new earth comes into being quietly as snow.
(Paiute)
***********************************************
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24 Aug 2007 02:34:03 PM |
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Doug wrote:
Unlike the usual hate spewed on this newsgroup
(alt.politics.immigration) that was refreshing. I've never
read any native american poetry.
"Indrid Cold" <demohassan@yahoo.com.mx> wrote in message
news:1187922129.141441.215210@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Healing Song:
Prayer (from the Navajo healing ceremony called Night Chant)
Tsegihi,
House made of dawn.
House made of evening light.
House made of the dark cloud.
House made of male rain.
House made of dark mist.
House made of female rain.
House made of pollen.
House made of grasshoppers.
Dark cloud is at the door.
The trail out of it is dark cloud.
The zigzag lightning stands high upon it.
Male deity!
Your offering I make.
I have prepared a smoke for you.
Restore my feet for me.
Restore my legs for me.
Restore my body for me.
Restore my mind for me.
This very day take out your spell for me.
Your spell remove for me.
You have taken it away for me.
Far off it has gone.
Happily I recover.
Happily my interior becomes cool.
Happily I go forth.
My interior feeling cool, may I walk.
No longer sore, may I walk.
Impervious to pain, may I walk.
With lively feeling may I walk.
As it used to be long ago, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Happily, with abundant dark clouds, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant showers, may I walk.
Happily, with abundant plants, may I walk.
Happily, on a trail of pollen, may I walk.
Happily may I walk.
Being as it used to be long ago, may I walk.
May it be beautiful before me
May it be beautiful behind me.
May it be beautiful below me.
May it be beautiful above me.
With it be beautiful all around me.
In beauty it is finished.
***********************************************
last song of Sitting Bull
A warrior
I have been.
Now
it is all over.
A hard time
I have.
(Teton Sioux)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Sitting Bull sang this, his last song, after he had
surrendered to the United States authorities
some time after the Custer massacre.
***********************************************
ghost dance song
The whirlwind! the whirlwind!
The new earth comes into being swiftly as snow.
The new earth comes into being quietly as snow.
(Paiute)
***********************************************
Ohiyesa remembers the past (Sioux)
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As a child I understood how to give;
I have forgotten this grace since I
became civilized. I lived the natural life,
whereas now I live the artificial.
Any pretty pebble was valuable to me
then; every growing tree an object of
reverence. Now I worship with the white
man before a painted landscape whose
value is estimated in dollars! Thus the
Indian is reconstructed, as the natural
rocks are ground to powder and made
into artificial blocks which may be built
into the walls of modern society.
The first American mingled with his pride
a singular humility. Spiritual arrogance
was foreign to his nature and teaching.
He never claimed that the power of
articulate speech was proof of superiority
over the dumb creation; on the other hand,
it is to him a perilous gift. He believes
profoundly in silence - the sign of a perfect
equilibrium. Silence is the absolute poise
or balance of body, mind, and spirit.
The man who preserves his selfhood is
ever calm and unshaken by the storms
of existence - not a leaf, as it were, astir
on the tree; not a ripple upon the surface
of the shining pool - his, in the mind of the
unlettered sage, is the ideal attitude and
conduct of life.
If you ask him: "What is silence?"
he will answer: "It is the Great Mystery"
"The holy silence is His voice!" If you ask:
"What are the fruits of silence?" he will say:
"They are self-control, true courage or
endurance, patience, dignity, and reverence.
Silence is the cornerstone of character."
"Guard your tongue in youth," said the
old chief, Wabashaw, "and in age you
may mature a thought that will be of
service to your people!"
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From Charles Alexander Eastman,
The Soul of the Indian, 1911.
Charles Eastman (Ohiyesa) was born
near Redwood Falls, Minnesota, in 1858.
His father was a full-blooded Sioux, his
mother the daughter of an army officer,
granddaughter of a famous Sioux chief.
As a boy he lived still the free nomadic
life of the Sioux; later, however, he took
up the ways of the white man, went to
college. He graduated from Dartmouth
College, N.H., in 1887, and studied
medicine at Boston University.
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Am Segulah -- the "chosen people" -- an idea which
sets Jews apart from others, becomes understood as
the "well-choosing people", something that any nation
that segulah --"sustains the action of learning" -- can
aspire to. This is not word-play. We have simply
re-discovered and re-validated traditional claims
that Torah Hebrew roots are not arbitrary,
but rather, intrinsically define that which
they describe. The Hebrew letter Samek
means "to sustain". Gimel refers to
"action" or "relationship" (a camel),
and Lamed means "learning"
(Samek-Gimel-Lamed is the root
of segulah, "chosen/choosing").
Any person or people that "sustains the
action of learning" learns to choose well.
Simply by moving from noun-translations
to verb-translations, principles that
previously have set Jews apart and
caused jealousy now unite us with others,
as examples of successful behavior.
http://www.meru.org/DamnbyFaintPraise.html
http://www.meru.org/
http://www.meetingtent.com/EnterpriseSpecials.html
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/index.html
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/links.html
The Six Day War had its origins in disputes
between Israel and Egypt over the rights of
Israeli shipping to pass through the Suez
Canal and the Red Sea. The State of Israel
had been founded in May 1948.
The boundaries established by Israel's
1948 war with its Arab neighbors had held
uneasily for a few years when Egypt's ruler
Gamal Abel Nasser decided in 1956 to
nationalize the Suez Canal and deny passage
to Israeli ships both there and in the Straits of
Tiran that led to the Red Sea. Israel responded
by invading and occupying the Sinai Peninsula
for several months until a United Nations
peacekeeping force was put in place and the
right of free shipping restored.
In late May 1967, Nasser told the U.N. force
to leave Egypt and again closed the Straits
of Tiran to Israel. Egypt also began preparing
for an attack that was aborted when the Israelis
learned of it. The United States, which had
guaranteed Israel's right to passage through
the Straits, asked Israel not to attack while it
pursued a diplomatic resolution, but that effort
was unsuccessful, and after a May 26 meeting
with Israel's foreign minister, President Lyndon
Johnson declared, "I've failed. They'll go."
The war began on June 5 with Israeli preemptive
air strikes that destroyed 286 of Egypt's 420
combat aircraft. Israeli tanks surged across the
Sinai, and its troops took over the Egypt-occupied
Gaza Strip. Focused on the fight against Egypt,
Israel initially did not seek to move against
Jordan, which controlled East Jerusalem and
the West Bank, but when King Hussein's troops
began shelling Israeli positions, the battle plans
changed. Israeli paratroopers captured East
Jerusalem on June 7, and the Israeli army
stormed across the West Bank, driving opposing
forces to the Jordan River.
Cold War Conflict
In the meantime, both the United States and
the Soviet Union publicly sought a ceasefire
while privately warning the other not to
intervene in the fighting (in fact, the 1967 war
marked the first use of the diplomatic "hot line"
between the two countries). While not rebuking
Israel for its preemptive strike, the Johnson
administration did impose an arms embargo
on the region. It did not retaliate when the
Israelis attacked an American intelligence ship,
the U.S.S. Liberty, on June 8, accepting the
official explanation that the assault had been
a tragic accident. The United States became
more concerned when Israel began to push
into the Syrian-held Golan Heights, raising the
possibility that the Soviet Union would respond.
A U.N.-sponsored ceasefire took hold on
June 10, however, and direct confrontation
between the superpowers was avoided.
The breadth of Israel's military success in the
Six Day War was stunning; its troops captured
the Sinai, Gaza, West Bank, East Jerusalem,
and the Golan Heights, doubling the territory
under the nation's control. Israel inflicted
casualties at a rate some 25 times higher than
it suffered, and it captured nearly 6,000 prisoners
while having only 15 taken by the other side.
But Israel's military dominance also created
problems; roughly 500,000 Palestinians were
displaced by the fighting, and a million were now
under Israeli control in what became known as
the "occupied territories." That November,
U.N. Resolution 242 urged withdrawal from
these territories in exchange for a permanent
end to hostilities; this "land for peace" formula
became the cornerstone of subsequent
negotiations in the region. But the war had
destroyed the dreams many Palestinians had
of using Arab armies to defeat Israel and
establish an independent state in all of
pre-partition Palestine. Despite the defeat,
the Palestinian exile leaders were not
interested in peace. On the contrary, given
the demonstrated military weakness of the
Arab states, they were convinced that they
had to be more aggressive in opposing Israel
and demonstrating that Palestinian
nationalism had not died.
Former Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser
attempted to resign after the Six Day War.
The address was broadcast live on Egyptian
television and radio on June 9, 1967. Egyptians
did not accept his resignation, and he continued
to lead the country.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10619929
The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and
Gaza greatly increased the numbers of Palestinian
refugees living in squalor on international charity
in camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Syria.
These camps provided the bases of support
and recruits for the various Palestinian militant
organizations grouped under the loose umbrella
of the P.L.O. led by Yasser Arafat. One such
group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of
Palestine was formed a few months after the end
of the Six Day War. Within a year, it would stage
the first hijacking of an Israeli airplane, ushering
in a new phase of the Middle East conflict.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/hijacked/peopleevents/e_war.html
Separation Wall
http://www.nimn.org/images/WallInAbuDis.jpg
http://www.vtjp.org/background/wallgraphics.htm
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:55 -0700, HVAC <harlow@k.st> wrote:
Don Gabacho wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence from
our 'high risk' resident, post-menopausal neo-Nazi hermana:
A more accurate statement would be to expect NO coherence from the Tin
Foil Hat Division.
" www.freedomtofascism.com " <truth@r.us>
http://tinyurl.com/27co27
Orthodox Jews Denounce 'Israel' and its Policies
http://www.nkusa.org/
"On the Jewish fast day of the ninth of 'Av',
commemorating the destruction of the
historic Jewish temple in Jerusalem,
thousands of Jews gathered opposite the
Israeli consulate in New York City to protests
against the existence of the state of Israel
and its ongoing persecution of religious Jews..."
http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/20070724.cfm
http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topics/Benjamin+Netanyahu
The American Nazi Party is a legally based
political and educational organization that
claims to be in place to save the white race,
the Aryan Republic, and our Western-European
cultural heritage.
Their motto is the Fourteen Words.
"As the world enemy wages war against the
White Race and Western Civilization in every
corner of the world, we have found that the
ONLY WAY to shock our people awake is
through BOLD ACTION. Too many others
would rather try to TALK the problem away,
while we realize that the time has
come to FIGHT!
http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/cayc/index.htm
Schedule of Upcoming Extremist Events: 2007
http://www.adl.org/learn/Events_2001/events_2003_flashmap.asp
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On Aug 23, 11:18 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:55 -0700, HVAC <har...@k.st> wrote:
Don Gabacho wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence from
our 'high risk' resident, post-menopausal neo-Nazi hermana:
A more accurate statement would be to expect NO coherence from the Tin
Foil Hat Division.
_Oblivion_, T. E. Bearden, page 203
Faraday Cages are useless.
<snip Zionist Jew bleating>
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23 Aug 2007 08:34:54 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:55 -0700, HVAC <harlow@k.st> wrote:
Don Gabacho wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence from
our 'high risk' resident, post-menopausal neo-Nazi hermana:
" www.freedomtofascism.com " <truth@r.us>
http://tinyurl.com/27co27
"Federales"
The latin derivative of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for
the benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal
benefit and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person
represented. (adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and
his principal. Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point
assumed as a fixed basis of reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere,
fisus sum - to trust, rely upon; fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium
- entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum - faithful]
http://www.geocities.com/gene_moutoux/pageF.htm
<snip>
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23 Aug 2007 07:40:46 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:55 -0700, HVAC <harlow@k.st> wrote:
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence
The Latin derivative of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for the
benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal benefit
and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person represented.
(adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and his principal.
Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point assumed as a fixed basis of
reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere, fisus sum - to trust, rely upon;
fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium - entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum -
faithful]
http://www.geocities.com/gene_moutoux/pageF.htm
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23 Aug 2007 07:38:30 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:54:55 -0700, HVAC <harlow@k.st> wrote:
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army.
Don't expect anything resembling multilingual coherence
The latin deravitive of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for the
benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal benefit
and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person represented.
(adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and his principal.
Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point assumed as a fixed basis of
reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere, fisus sum - to trust, rely upon;
fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium - entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum -
faithful]
http://www.geocities.com/gene_moutoux/pageF.htm
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23 Aug 2007 08:32:13 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:49:47 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh?
All human beings like and dislike the same things. Human beings are
all emotionally equal.
Where are you from?
Rome.
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army
The latin derivative of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for
the benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal
benefit and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person
represented. (adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and
his principal. Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point
assumed as a fixed basis of reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere,
fisus sum - to trust, rely upon; fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium
- entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum - faithful]
http://www.geocities.com/gene_moutoux/pageF.htm
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23 Aug 2007 07:36:25 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:49:47 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
Rome.
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army
The latin deravitive of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for the
benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal benefit
and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person represented.
(adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and his principal.
Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point assumed as a fixed basis of
reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere, fisus sum - to trust, rely upon;
fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium - entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum -
faithful]
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:49:47 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
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On Aug 22, 10:48 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Uhh? Where are you from?
Rome.
"Federales" is a direct reference to the Mexican Army
The latin derivative of:
fidere, fiduciae, f. - trust, confidence
fiduciary - (n.) a person to whom property or power is entrusted for the
benefit of another: A fiduciary is required to disregard personal benefit
and to act exclusively in the best interest of the person represented.
(adj.) pertaining to the relation between a fiduciary and his principal.
Also: fiducial (in astronomy, of a line or point assumed as a fixed basis of
reference; based on trust). [fido, fidere, fisus sum - to trust, rely upon;
fiduciarius, fiduciaria, fiduciarium - entrusted; fidus, fida, fidum -
faithful]
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:48:23 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <truth@r.us>
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:39:33 -0700, Don Gabacho <jpastore@nettaxi.com>
wrote:
The Zionists don't want civil war -- they can't control it. They have
always known they can not control a north american continent in civil war.
Could have been plain-clothes federales.
The 'federals' are all deserting the Zionist-controlled governments.
Did they speak at all?
They don't need to. 91% of the world is against what the Zionists are
doing.
Once civil war breaks out in North America, the dollar will crash over
night.
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