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"juliekale" |
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31 Jul 2003 04:39:44 PM |
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Re: Created in God"s image |
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Louis Cypher" <louis_cypher@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Interesting viewpoint....
I was long ago, a Combat Medic (91b10), a profession not noted for
being
adverse to personal danger in the service of others...
I came back to the states and worked for a time in mountain rescue,
dangling on cable from perfectly good helocoptors, again in service to
others...
I later worked for 13 years as a firefighter...
I was then, an atheist, and an atheist I remain.
The assertions made, don't fit the (admitedly) annecdotal evidence.
<<<*>>>
Louis
Glad to hear something positive for a change. At least I assume you
are
not down on others who stick to their principles / ideals to the death
like
Christ, and who advocate we do the same.
Hmmm...so you don't have a problem with the mass sucicide of Applewhite and
the Heaven's Gate cult right?
--
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Created in God"s image |
31 Jul 2003 10:28:13 PM |
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"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
news:A0gWa.5415$qg3.300318@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:usGUa.16389$tu7.3390@nntp-post.primus.ca...
"Louis Cypher" <louis_cypher@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:EyfUa.514283$ro6.12064641@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
Interesting viewpoint....
I was long ago, a Combat Medic (91b10), a profession not noted for
being
adverse to personal danger in the service of others...
I came back to the states and worked for a time in mountain rescue,
dangling on cable from perfectly good helocoptors, again in service to
others...
I later worked for 13 years as a firefighter...
I was then, an atheist, and an atheist I remain.
The assertions made, don't fit the (admitedly) annecdotal evidence.
<<<*>>>
Louis
Glad to hear something positive for a change. At least I assume you
are
not down on others who stick to their principles / ideals to the death
like Christ, and who advocate we do the same.
Hmmm...so you don't have a problem with the mass sucicide of Applewhite
and
the Heaven's Gate cult right?
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
I see. To you sticking to your principles and ideals to the death, like
Christ did on the cross of Calvary, is the same as committing mass suicide?
I think you went off the rails someplace way back someplace, and haven't
quite realized it yet.
--
Pastor Frank
Christ in Mt:19:14: But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid
them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Christ in Lk:18:17: Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive
the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
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| User: "juliekale" |
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| Title: Re: Created in God"s image |
01 Aug 2003 04:50:50 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:3IlWa.7472$fP3.2235@nntp-post.primus.ca...
"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
news:A0gWa.5415$qg3.300318@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:usGUa.16389$tu7.3390@nntp-post.primus.ca...
"Louis Cypher" <louis_cypher@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:EyfUa.514283$ro6.12064641@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
Interesting viewpoint....
I was long ago, a Combat Medic (91b10), a profession not noted for
being
adverse to personal danger in the service of others...
I came back to the states and worked for a time in mountain rescue,
dangling on cable from perfectly good helocoptors, again in service
to
others...
I later worked for 13 years as a firefighter...
I was then, an atheist, and an atheist I remain.
The assertions made, don't fit the (admitedly) annecdotal evidence.
<<<*>>>
Louis
Glad to hear something positive for a change. At least I assume
you
are
not down on others who stick to their principles / ideals to the death
like Christ, and who advocate we do the same.
Hmmm...so you don't have a problem with the mass sucicide of Applewhite
and
the Heaven's Gate cult right?
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
I see. To you sticking to your principles and ideals to the death,
like
Christ did on the cross of Calvary, is the same as committing mass
suicide?
I think you went off the rails someplace way back someplace, and
haven't
quite realized it yet.
Let's pay attention little one.
Your post above implies that you find admiration in those who would die for
their beliefs. Thus, it should be a very safe assumption for myself and any
non-biased observer to make, that you would not have a problem with the acts
of the Heaven's Gate cult. They, after all, had a *very strong belief that,
much like christianity, is based in very little logic and a whole lot of
neurotic emotionalsim, and they were quite willing (as evidenced by their
acts) to die for it.
Now, Frank, if you *do not find their acts just as admirable and courageous
as that of Jesus, I suggest you withdraw your previous statement. If you
don't, you're picking and choosing, of course you christians excell greatly
at that sort of thing.
--
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: Created in God"s image |
02 Aug 2003 05:22:32 AM |
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"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
news:_JqWa.7743$qg3.373502@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:3IlWa.7472$fP3.2235@nntp-post.primus.ca...
"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
news:A0gWa.5415$qg3.300318@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:usGUa.16389$tu7.3390@nntp-post.primus.ca...
"Louis Cypher" <louis_cypher@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:EyfUa.514283$ro6.12064641@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
Interesting viewpoint....
I was long ago, a Combat Medic (91b10), a profession not noted
for
being
adverse to personal danger in the service of others...
I came back to the states and worked for a time in mountain
rescue,
dangling on cable from perfectly good helocoptors, again in
service
to
others...
I later worked for 13 years as a firefighter...
I was then, an atheist, and an atheist I remain.
The assertions made, don't fit the (admitedly) annecdotal
evidence.
<<<*>>>
Louis
Glad to hear something positive for a change. At least I assume
you
are
not down on others who stick to their principles / ideals to the
death
like Christ, and who advocate we do the same.
Hmmm...so you don't have a problem with the mass sucicide of
Applewhite
and
the Heaven's Gate cult right?
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
I see. To you sticking to your principles and ideals to the death,
like
Christ did on the cross of Calvary, is the same as committing mass
suicide?
I think you went off the rails someplace way back someplace, and
haven't
quite realized it yet.
Let's pay attention little one.
Your post above implies that you find admiration in those who would die
for
their beliefs. Thus, it should be a very safe assumption for myself and
any
non-biased observer to make, that you would not have a problem with the
acts
of the Heaven's Gate cult. They, after all, had a *very strong belief
that,
much like christianity, is based in very little logic and a whole lot of
neurotic emotionalsim, and they were quite willing (as evidenced by their
acts) to die for it.
Now, Frank, if you *do not find their acts just as admirable and
courageous
as that of Jesus, I suggest you withdraw your previous statement. If you
don't, you're picking and choosing, of course you christians excell
greatly
at that sort of thing.
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
Jesus did NOT kill Himself, but refused to sell out to the
power-structure and cave in, something you seem to advocate. He said: Anyone
seeking to save his life by selling out his principles, will lose any life
he may have had that's worth living.
We Christians believe that, atheists don't.
--
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Jn:11:25: Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life:
he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
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| User: "juliekale" |
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| Title: Re: Created in God"s image |
02 Aug 2003 06:18:48 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
Let's pay attention little one.
Your post above implies that you find admiration in those who would die
for
their beliefs. Thus, it should be a very safe assumption for myself and
any
non-biased observer to make, that you would not have a problem with the
acts
of the Heaven's Gate cult. They, after all, had a *very strong belief
that,
much like christianity, is based in very little logic and a whole lot of
neurotic emotionalsim, and they were quite willing (as evidenced by
their
acts) to die for it.
Now, Frank, if you *do not find their acts just as admirable and
courageous
as that of Jesus, I suggest you withdraw your previous statement. If you
don't, you're picking and choosing, of course you christians excell
greatly
at that sort of thing.
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
Jesus did NOT kill Himself,
Irrelevant to the point, my dear.
but refused to sell out to the
power-structure and cave in, something you seem to advocate.
Where could you possibly get such an interpretation from my post?
He said: Anyone
seeking to save his life by selling out his principles, will lose any life
he may have had that's worth living.
Applewhite did not sell out his principles. He *died for them.
Thus, what's the difference?
We Christians believe that, atheists don't.
You have no idea what atheists believe, you old goat. :)
--
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Created in God"s image |
02 Aug 2003 09:36:38 AM |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:18:48 +0000, juliekale wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"juliekale" <me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote in message
news:_JqWa.7743$qg3.373502@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
<snip>
Let's pay attention little one.
Your post above implies that you find admiration in those who would
die
for
their beliefs. Thus, it should be a very safe assumption for myself
and
any
non-biased observer to make, that you would not have a problem with
the
acts
of the Heaven's Gate cult. They, after all, had a *very strong belief
that,
much like christianity, is based in very little logic and a whole lot
of neurotic emotionalsim, and they were quite willing (as evidenced by
their
acts) to die for it.
Now, Frank, if you *do not find their acts just as admirable and
courageous
as that of Jesus, I suggest you withdraw your previous statement. If
you don't, you're picking and choosing, of course you christians
excell
greatly
at that sort of thing.
Julie Kale (aa#1029)
Listen to the music now at www.juliekale.com
Jesus did NOT kill Himself,
Irrelevant to the point, my dear.
but refused to sell out to the
power-structure and cave in, something you seem to advocate.
Where could you possibly get such an interpretation from my post?
He said: Anyone
seeking to save his life by selling out his principles, will lose any
life he may have had that's worth living.
Applewhite did not sell out his principles. He *died for them. Thus,
what's the difference?
So did Koresh. That means Koresh really *was Jesus as he claimed?
--
Mark K. Bilbo #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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count on the reliability of everything you say, your
vulnerability is enormously increased."
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