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Religions > Atheism |
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"Puddleglum" |
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15 Nov 2005 03:35:42 AM |
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Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
bob young wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
bob young wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
bob young wrote:
Richard Dawkins wrote:
"The Truth Squad" <Flakey714@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1131380001.195100.58130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
"I have lost count of the number of times that this idiot has=
been
called
'Idiot'
Properly labled "A crossposting idiot"
Must be insanity.....Dickie keeps posting the same idiotic cr=
ap,
expecting a different outcome
People who hate God always focus their attention on His People =
and His
creations.
To hate God requires a person to actively participate in attemp=
ting to
debase his Things.
This makes you a God-Hating fool.
If you want someone to hate your god you need to produce him/her/=
it
first.
Not really. I think you're quite capable of hate without believing =
in
your saviour.
we simply feel sorry for weak minded idiots that grovel to imagin=
ary
things,
but that cannot be construed as hate, can it?
This is interesting since atheism is the cause of our decadent soci=
ety
today.
Care to provide a 'for instance'
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
HOW SICK you must be to catalogue those crimes they way you have.
I'm not trying to be *sick* on purpose. However, I agree that
alcoholism could be safely omitted. I only made one mistake.
You think this proves anything?
I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
Ever heard of the mums, [there are quite many each year in the USA] that =
kill
their children because they hear the 'voice of god telling them to do it'?
In reality they actually *don't* hear the voice of God. They're pawns
of Satan. Hence, atheists.
Remember Son of Sam:? He killed all those couples in their cars in cold b=
lood?
"God told me to kill them" he said
Have you EVER [no I thought not] studied the Spanish Inquisition and the =
mass of
murder and killings of innocents because some rampant fanatic turned them=
in
because he 'claimed' they did not follow your imaginary god??
False prophets will be numerous, and very successful:
Mat 24:11=C2=A0 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people,
just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly
introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who
bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the
way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with
stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging
over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
1 John 4:1=C2=A0 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.
You do not have the intelligence to understaand that there are:
'Religious fruitcakes' 'Atheists' 'Agnostics' plus those 'That just could=
not
care less'. The latter are not atheists, just try asking to one of them =
and you
will soon find out.
Nope. All of them are led by Satan as the Bible predicts; you either
believe in God, or you don't. It's that simple.
Don't be terrified of people that talk common sense about your silly supe=
rtition,
they mean no harm, they just feel sick at the sight of fellow human beings
groveling to 'NOTHING'
bob
Humanist Brit.
Opinion noted. The bit about common sense was humorous, too.
=E2=9C=A0 Pud
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| User: "Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
15 Nov 2005 09:14:58 AM |
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"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Failure to reply will be taken as an admission that you know you are
talking shite.
Well?..................................................
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
15 Nov 2005 03:27:45 PM |
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Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life.
Failure to reply will be taken as an admission that you know you are
talking shite.
Well?..................................................
I don't run. Sometimes it takes me a while to get back to posts due to
my bizarre schedule.
=E2=9C=9FPud
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AA #2208
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
15 Nov 2005 09:32:43 PM |
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"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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16 Nov 2005 03:08:47 AM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.=20
=E2=9C=9EPud
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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17 Nov 2005 02:29:55 AM |
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In alt.atheism On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> let us all know that:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children.
And No True Scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal.
Don
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 05:13:13 AM |
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It seems as if your home schooling didn't really work out for you.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 03:13:43 AM |
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On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
?Pud
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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16 Nov 2005 02:57:17 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
=E2=9C=9EPud
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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16 Nov 2005 07:18:19 PM |
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Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
What would you estimate the percentage of "atheists who support
depraved acts" to be, in relation to those atheists who don't support
depraved acts? Would you say the percentage is higher or lower than
christians who support depraved acts?
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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17 Nov 2005 12:03:06 AM |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
What would you estimate the percentage of "atheists who support
depraved acts" to be, in relation to those atheists who don't support
depraved acts?
Too many factors involved.
Would you say the percentage is higher or lower than
christians who support depraved acts?
IMO, I'd say many more [faux] Christians support depravity than
[confirmed] atheists.
Pud
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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17 Nov 2005 12:15:32 AM |
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On 16 Nov 2005 16:03:06 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote in
<1132185786.607314.236770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
What would you estimate the percentage of "atheists who support
depraved acts" to be, in relation to those atheists who don't support
depraved acts?
Too many factors involved.
In general, atheists are not known to be less law abiding than
self-identified Christians. Christianity is much more widespread in the
US than in Western Europe, but crime is higher here.
Would you say the percentage is higher or lower than
christians who support depraved acts?
IMO, I'd say many more [faux] Christians support depravity than
[confirmed] atheists.
Then we're back to objective standards of Christianity.
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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17 Nov 2005 02:53:38 PM |
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David Jensen wrote:
On 16 Nov 2005 16:03:06 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote in
<1132185786.607314.236770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
What would you estimate the percentage of "atheists who support
depraved acts" to be, in relation to those atheists who don't support
depraved acts?
Too many factors involved.
In general, atheists are not known to be less law abiding than
self-identified Christians. Christianity is much more widespread in the
US than in Western Europe, but crime is higher here.
Are you speaking of confirmed atheists, or the atheist in denial
(faux-Christian)?
Would you say the percentage is higher or lower than
christians who support depraved acts?
IMO, I'd say many more [faux] Christians support depravity than
[confirmed] atheists.
Then we're back to objective standards of Christianity.
All we need is the Holy Bible; it exposes the faux-Christian and
confirms who is saved/lost.
Pud
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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17 Nov 2005 07:24:27 PM |
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On 17 Nov 2005 06:53:38 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote in
<1132239218.156645.311760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>:
David Jensen wrote:
On 16 Nov 2005 16:03:06 -0800, in alt.atheism
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote in
<1132185786.607314.236770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation. Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes. However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations. Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children. Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
What would you estimate the percentage of "atheists who support
depraved acts" to be, in relation to those atheists who don't support
depraved acts?
Too many factors involved.
In general, atheists are not known to be less law abiding than
self-identified Christians. Christianity is much more widespread in the
US than in Western Europe, but crime is higher here.
Are you speaking of confirmed atheists, or the atheist in denial
(faux-Christian)?
Self-identified.
Would you say the percentage is higher or lower than
christians who support depraved acts?
IMO, I'd say many more [faux] Christians support depravity than
[confirmed] atheists.
Then we're back to objective standards of Christianity.
All we need is the Holy Bible; it exposes the faux-Christian and
confirms who is saved/lost.
That answer is still too vague to be useful to me. I've read the entire
Bible, I don't see how it answers who are Christians. Even in the New
Testament, there is conflict in doctrine, particularly between Jesus's
teachings and Paul's.
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| User: "" |
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17 Nov 2005 02:39:22 AM |
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Puddleglum wrote:
JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
Puddleglum wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 19:08:47 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned. The
point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation.
Because you say so? What if, in spite of your
assurances, an authentic, God-fearing Christian
DOES perform such an act? What will you say
then? That performing the act proves he was no
authentic, God-fearing Christian? I could do
the same thing by saying that no sane person
would ever commit murder and then by defining
anyone who committed murder as insane. Fact is
you've got no grounds for this claim at all.
Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes.
Only because you will reject any example of
an authentic, God-fearing Christian who does
them.
Besides, below you contradict yourself. You say
Catholics molest children and they aren't atheists.
However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life. "
Only an atheist could do horrendous crimes? Haven't you noticed how
many CATHOLIC PRIESTS have been convicted for molesting boys (just to
name one example)? You can't GET any more authentic than a Priest. You
are biblically stupid.
Catholicism is plagued with abominations.
See what I mean? Your argument is circular. You
define "authentic, God-fearing Christian" as those
Christians who don't do things that lead to damnation.
Just like I could define sane people as those who don't
murder.
Also, Real Christians would
NEVER molest children.
But they would murder and commit adultery--two of God's
top ten sins (child molesting isn't on the list) Well,
David wasn't exactly a Christian but he was "God's"
favorite (and Jesus' ancestor) and David committed
murder and adultery. Do you remember how "God"
punished David? by killing David's and Bathsheba's
child:
"And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife
bare unto David, and it was very sick."--II Sam 12:15
"And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the
child died." -- II Sam 12:18
So if God was willing to kill an innocent child to
punish the guilty, what makes you think your
God cares about child molesting? Is molesting
a child WORSE than killing a child?
Maybe you should do a bit of study on the Bible
before you say any more silly things? Just a
suggestion.
Pedophiles are evil, but Satan has found a way
for society to accept them -- in the form of Catholic priests.
And real Christians would NEVER be bigoted liars like you, would they?
Real Christians sin, too. However, the odds for such a person to be a
bigoted liar is quite low when compared with an atheist that supports
depraved acts.
I see. So would you kill women and children if your
God wanted you to? No, don't try to get out of it by
sayng "God" would never want you to. Not if you
are talking about the God found in the Bible. He HAS
made such demands. Examples upon request. So if
you are feeling brave, answer my question: Would
you kill women and children if your God wanted
you to? Yes or no?
If you aren't feeling brave I'll understand. But maybe
you will then rein in your arrogance a little bit.
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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16 Nov 2005 04:13:09 PM |
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Worshipping gods, demons, or any other fictional character is a
depraved act.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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16 Nov 2005 10:29:36 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Worshipping gods, demons, or any other fictional character is a
depraved act.
Superstition in general. Can there be anything more
depraved than ceasing to reason?
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"If lightning is the anger of the gods, the
gods are concerned mostly with trees."
- Lao Tse
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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16 Nov 2005 10:20:04 PM |
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Cease to reason? I don't think they ever began reasoning in the first
place.
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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15 Nov 2005 05:29:40 PM |
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"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
The point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation.
You know that this is untrue, unless you do not have a clue what goes
on around you, let alone in the wider world. In which case you are
speaking from ignorance, which makes you a de facto liar.
Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes.
But they don't, why do you think that is?
However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life.
And get absolution from somebody who has no business forgiving them
for their crimes? Now that _is_ what Christianity is about.
Tell me, do you think lying is a sin? Do you think that people go to
hell for bearing false witness? Do you think that bearing false
witness in the name of the Lord gives you absolution from it?
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 12:36:38 AM |
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<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: =
gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murde=
r,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
The point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation.
You know that this is untrue, unless you do not have a clue what goes
on around you, let alone in the wider world. In which case you are
speaking from ignorance, which makes you a de facto liar.
Remember, "authentic, God-fearing Christians" are few and far between;
they are not a part of the faux-Christian movement led by deceivers;
they will go to Heaven.
Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes.
But they don't, why do you think that is?
But they do. Biblical scripture does not support atrocious conduct, and
anyone that partakes of it is not Christian. While even the most ardent
Christian sins there is a difference between the magnitude of his sin
when compared with one that practices false, damning doctrine.
However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life.
And get absolution from somebody who has no business forgiving them
for their crimes? Now that _is_ what Christianity is about.
Jesus has business forgiving people of sins.
Tell me, do you think lying is a sin? Do you think that people go to
hell for bearing false witness? Do you think that bearing false
witness in the name of the Lord gives you absolution from it?
God judges people individually, so it's possible that some who lie/bear
false witness *will* enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 06:52:37 AM |
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On 15 Nov 2005 16:36:38 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
And we're sorry you're unfamiliar with it.
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 06:03:07 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 16:36:38 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the followin=
g: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, mu=
rder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism,=
so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
And we're sorry you're unfamiliar with it.
Only your brand of "truth".
=E2=9C=9C Pud
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 06:55:02 PM |
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On 16 Nov 2005 10:03:07 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
John Baker wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 16:36:38 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
And we're sorry you're unfamiliar with it.
Only your brand of "truth".
Truth is something's correspondence with reality - not your religious
belief, moron.
? Pud
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 12:43:37 AM |
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On 15 Nov 2005 16:36:38 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the following: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, murder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism, so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
Calling it truth makes you a liar. A particularly nasty ine giveb your
vicious slanders.
The point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation.
You know that this is untrue, unless you do not have a clue what goes
on around you, let alone in the wider world. In which case you are
speaking from ignorance, which makes you a de facto liar.
Remember, "authentic, God-fearing Christians" are few and far between;
they are not a part of the faux-Christian movement led by deceivers;
they will go to Heaven.
Another lie. Do you honrstly imagine the crusaders, Torquemada,
Junipero Serra, St Dominic (kill them all, God will take care of his
own), Martin Luther and Hitler were only pretending to be Christian?
Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes.
But they don't, why do you think that is?
But they do. Biblical scripture does not support atrocious conduct, and
anyone that partakes of it is not Christian. While even the most ardent
Christian sins there is a difference between the magnitude of his sin
when compared with one that practices false, damning doctrine.
Why are so many Christians such viciously slanderously liars?
What does nor believing in Pixies make you do, moron?
However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life.
Idiot. Sould you turn your life over to Santa Claus?
And get absolution from somebody who has no business forgiving them
for their crimes? Now that _is_ what Christianity is about.
Jesus has business forgiving people of sins.
Figments of your deluded imagination don't do anything, moron.
Tell me, do you think lying is a sin? Do you think that people go to
hell for bearing false witness? Do you think that bearing false
witness in the name of the Lord gives you absolution from it?
God judges people individually, so it's possible that some who lie/bear
false witness *will* enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Another figment of your deluded imagination.
?Pud
Moron.
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 02:38:09 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 16:36:38 -0800, "Puddleglum"
<ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Anaconda wrestlers for Jesus wrote:
"Puddleglum" <ChroniclesOfNarnia@gmail.com> suddenly spluttered:
Sure. For instance, only an atheist could condone the followin=
g: gay
marriage, gay priests, pedophilia, pornography, alcoholism, mu=
rder,
bestiality...etc.
Why? Please remember, you are talking to an atheist in alt.atheism,=
so
you are accusing me personally of rather a lot.
Incorrect. Not every atheist condones those things mentioned.
Big, or at least condescending of you, to admit it.
Sorry you're unhappy with the truth.
Calling it truth makes you a liar. A particularly nasty ine giveb your
vicious slanders.
You're simply unsatisfied with the truth so you resort to ad hominems.
Typical of the left.
The point
is that an authentic, God-fearing Christian will not perform acts that
will lead to eternal damnation.
You know that this is untrue, unless you do not have a clue what goes
on around you, let alone in the wider world. In which case you are
speaking from ignorance, which makes you a de facto liar.
Remember, "authentic, God-fearing Christians" are few and far between;
they are not a part of the faux-Christian movement led by deceivers;
they will go to Heaven.
Another lie. Do you honrstly imagine the crusaders, Torquemada,
Junipero Serra, St Dominic (kill them all, God will take care of his
own), Martin Luther and Hitler were only pretending to be Christian?
I suppose all the suicide bombers represent the true face of Islam as
well? People have the capacity to do great evils in the alleged name of
God. What we can conclude is that while all the carnage was being
wrought by the Hitlers, Crusaders...etc, the righteous man took NO part
of it. Why do you find that hard to believe?
Only an atheist could do horrendous
crimes.
But they don't, why do you think that is?
But they do. Biblical scripture does not support atrocious conduct, and
anyone that partakes of it is not Christian. While even the most ardent
Christian sins there is a difference between the magnitude of his sin
when compared with one that practices false, damning doctrine.
Why are so many Christians such viciously slanderously liars?
You're full of contempt for anyone that doesn't agree with you.
What does nor believing in Pixies make you do, moron?
Ad hominem.
However, said atheist could turn his life over to Christ later
in life.
Idiot. Sould you turn your life over to Santa Claus?
Ad hominem.
And get absolution from somebody who has no business forgiving them
for their crimes? Now that _is_ what Christianity is about.
Jesus has business forgiving people of sins.
Figments of your deluded imagination don't do anything, moron.
Ad hominem.
Tell me, do you think lying is a sin? Do you think that people go to
hell for bearing false witness? Do you think that bearing false
witness in the name of the Lord gives you absolution from it?
God judges people individually, so it's possible that some who lie/bear
false witness *will* enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Another figment of your deluded imagination.
?Pud
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Moron.
Ad hominem. You're very useful in that field.
=E2=9C=9B Pud
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 02:48:07 PM |
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"You're simply unsatisfied with the truth so you resort to ad hominems.
Typical of the left."
OH! So you are vaguely familiar with logical fallacies! See if you can
identify the fallacy in YOUR quote below (from another post in this
thread):
"Also, Real Christians would NEVER molest children."
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 06:21:20 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
"You're simply unsatisfied with the truth so you resort to ad hominems.
Typical of the left."
OH! So you are vaguely familiar with logical fallacies! See if you can
identify the fallacy in YOUR quote below (from another post in this
thread):
"Also, Real Christians would NEVER molest children."
None present. If you think gay priests are actual Christians then you
are sorely mistaken. Reprobates are not under the grace of God.
Reprobate -- A morally unprincipled person -- One who is predestined
to damnation -- Morally unprincipled; shameless -- Rejected by God and
without hope of salvation.
=E2=9C=9B Pud
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 06:53:55 PM |
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Christian = someone who worships Christ. Catholic Priests worship
Christ. Therefore, all Priests are Christians, even ones who molest
children. You are guilty of the No True Scotsman fallacy, which you
don't seem to comprehend.
By the way, Catholic Priests have been known to molest young girls as
well. They're not all gay. And they're not all pedophiles. But they are
all Christians. And whatever denomination you are, I'm sure I can trot
out examples of criminal hypocrites just like these ones from YOUR
cult.
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| User: "Puddleglum" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 10:52:49 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Christian =3D someone who worships Christ. Catholic Priests worship
Christ. Therefore, all Priests are Christians, even ones who molest
children. You are guilty of the No True Scotsman fallacy, which you
don't seem to comprehend.
By the way, Catholic Priests have been known to molest young girls as
well. They're not all gay. And they're not all pedophiles. But they are
all Christians. And whatever denomination you are, I'm sure I can trot
out examples of criminal hypocrites just like these ones from YOUR
cult.
I must tell you that you are incorrect. A faux-Christian is not a
Christian. Just because someone professes a belief in Christianity does
little to substantiate said claim. There are not many authentic
Christians, but there are many evil people practicing *their* version
of Christianity.
Mat 7:13 -- Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and
broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be
which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 -- Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way,
which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
=E2=9C=A0 Pud
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 11:12:31 PM |
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Huh. I must tell you that you are not exactly objective and I do not
agree with your self proclaimed authority to decide who is a christian
and who isn't. If I am to go by your definition, that is, a christian
is someone who believes in god and only acts in a manner approved by
god/jesus as set forth in the bible, then I think you are committing an
act of atrocity merely by being a christian, which would make you a
faux-christian, at least in my eyes.
Anyone who believes Jesus Christ was the son of God is a Christian.
They are also delusional, but go from there.
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: Creation Vs. Evolution |
16 Nov 2005 07:20:04 PM |
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Puddleglum wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
"You're simply unsatisfied with the truth so you resort to ad hominems.
Typical of the left."
OH! So you are vaguely familiar with logical fallacies! See if you can
identify the fallacy in YOUR quote below (from another post in this
thread):
"Also, Real Christians would NEVER molest children."
None present. If you think gay priests are actual Christians then you
are sorely mistaken. Reprobates are not under the grace of God.
Ah, bagpipes.
Reprobate -- A morally unprincipled person -- One who is predestined
to damnation -- Morally unprincipled; shameless -- Rejected by God and
without hope of salvation.
So god only forgives certain people? People like you?
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