"Grams" <grannyy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Of Course JESUS lives. Just read your Bible and if you dont have one I
will send one out to you.
Grams
Do you also read Vampire Books and believe Dracula "lives?" If not, how
does reading a book of supernatural hearsay make it true? :-)
Biff
Biff wrote:
Dore said, "I am proof that Jesus existed, for I am HE returned."
And to think, many people see Christians as "crazy." :-)
Biff
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
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There is proof Mao, Lincoln and Clinton lived.
Jesus? Nope.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
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There is proof Mao, Lincoln and Clinton lived.
Jesus? Nope.
Biff
"Starkiller©" <NoSpam.Starkiller@White-Star.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 09:05:57 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
Josephus didn't live in Jesus' supposed lifetime so how could he have
"witnessed" any miracle? :-)
Why don't you quote Pilate's letters to prove the "son of man"
"Jesus"
truly
existed? Well, can you? :-)
Biff
The funny thing about this is you are more intent on preaching your
own doctrine than those that you are ridiculing. In your own way your
are just as closed minded as any religious zealot.
You demand writings of contemporarys buty will only accept certain
authors as being credible. I guess since Mao Tse Tung never wrote of
Lincoln we are to assume that Abraham Lincoln didn't exist?
http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_BAR/bswbbar2806f1.html
http://www.xenos.org/classes/papers/doubt.htm
http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html
You remind me a lot of a friend of mine who just the other day
demanded proof that Bill Clinton signed NAFTA in 1999. Even after
providing the url for the gov archives he responded with "anyone can
make up crap and put on the web".
So you may as well sit there and be pissed at anyone that doesn't
think the way you do until hell freezes over but it is very unlikely
that you are going to change anyones mind with such rudementary
arguments. After all it isn't up to a believer to convince you of the
existence of a spiritual world but up to you to prove scientifically
that there is no such plane of existence since you brought up the
argument. Which you have failed to do.
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
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If Jesus was a real man and performed miracles all over the
place,
like
what
is claimed by the bible, then there would have been countless
"contemporary"
witnesses to his works. Many believers would have evidenced him,
many
non-believers would have reported his "trickery," and many
neutrals,
not
knowing what he was about, would have written about his traveling
circus.
That there is not one contemporary witness to Jesus even existing
let
alone
performing these miracles speaks volumes for itself and is almost
certain
proof that if he did exist, he was not a son of a god.
Oh stupid man. The people in those days only had certain scribes to
record
events, as most people did not have the ability to write anything
on
papyrus, since it was expensive in those days. And there are other
writings
that support the claim of Christ's existence and miracles. Josephus
is
one
and Pilate's letters are another, as well as the countless ancient
scripts
of His followers. As for contemporary witnesses, I AM one, for I AM
HE
RETURNED and YES, I AM the Son of GOD.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
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If Jesus was a real man and performed miracles all over the
place,
like
what
is claimed by the bible, then there would have been countless
"contemporary"
witnesses to his works. Many believers would have evidenced him,
many
non-believers would have reported his "trickery," and many
neutrals,
not
knowing what he was about, would have written about his traveling
circus.
That there is not one contemporary witness to Jesus even existing
let
alone
performing these miracles speaks volumes for itself and is almost
certain
proof that if he did exist, he was not a son of a god.
Regards
Starkiller©
http://www.lairofluxlucre.com/headshop/
http://www.lairofluxlucre.com/headshop/sks.htm
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