On Jul 8, 10:55 pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer





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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007, thetruth90ca <thetruth9...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Do you believe in the immortality of the soul?
hey folks I only have Messianics on my list
So I want to hear what your views are on a number of issues
starting with the Immortality of the soul
Do you believe in the immortality of the soul?
What do you think of the doctrine that Traditional Christianity
says when you die your soul goes directly to heaven if you
are good and directly to hell if you are bad.
I dont believe in billions of judgement days but rather the
person is just dead until Yeshua returns and resurrects the
dead and Judgement is done then. I dont think that man
has an immortal soul but one of the rewards of the saints
is they are given immortality at the resurrection. I dont
believe in eternal punnishing but rather eternal punnishment.
In the end when the smoke clears the unrighteous shall
be ashes under the saints feet.
So please send me your answer please please please
however how brief. Detailed responses is much
appreciated
Shalom
Mike

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It seems there are what are generally called "orthodox" views,
beliefs, opinions, etc.; and there are varying divergences of
less orthodox views, etc., i.e. perhaps less common opinions,
which may appear to be at odds with organized world religion.

But believing apparently comes easier to those who see that or
whom in which they believe, in contrast to persons who believe
more or less without seeing, or without demanding added proof.
Then there are those who believe in disbelief, (ir)regardless.

For example, some of us mortally-incarnate sinners can remember
past mortal incarnations, whereas others say that they have not.
Some of us remember past discarnate sojourns, but others do not.
But even of those who have not (yet) remembered past lifetimes
mortally-incarnate upon the earth, some still believe in having
lived before, i.e. in profound cycles of real (re)incarnations,
very much as most all ancient cultures believed and understood,
each to their own personal & collective limitations, of course.

In other words, there are those who believe without seeing, or
hearing, or feeling, or remembering, etc. Some call this blind
faith. Naturally, those who hold more orthodox religious views
tend to discount any faith in things be they seen or unseen by
its beholder, where such faith, views, beliefs, opinions, etc.,
appears to conflict with what they've been taught to believe,
within the tenets of their typically more "orthodox" religion.

From my experience, it seems there are two primary schools of
thought among orthodox world religions where the supernatural,
occult, paranormal, etc., is concerned. They either say it is
"claptrap", "insanity", "charlatanism", ad nauseam, or else
they say it is a "trick of the devil", "satanic", "witchcraft",
similarly ad nauseam. Those who fall into either of those two
schools of thought tend to either mock or flee from (or both)
"taboo" subjects like judicial astrology, tarot, egyptology,
psychic mediumship, astral projection, past-life regression,
clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, psychokinesis,
telepathy, universality, eternity, infinity, ad infinitum.

The orthodox critics will either claim that "our scientists
have proven that all religion is self-deluding insanity for
the intellectually-inferior", or else they'll say that "the
scriptures say this", or "the scriptures say that", always
predictably to "prove" that they are more knowledgeable and
wise than those whom they're criticizing. Such "group-think"
or "cookie-cutter" views are apparently reassuring to those
who hold them. I don't hold such views, but I respect those
who do -- each to the precise degree that they respect mine.

For example, as a devout believer in karma and reincarnation,
I understand that if I don't respect the religious beliefs of
Atheists (who are a devout Christian's most vehement critics),
then I could well incarnate as an Atheist in my next lifetime,
if I don't remain humble, true and kind, remembering that all
men are Created equal. But if I ever should forget my place,
and stoop to their level of bigotry and intolerance, then I
would place my soul in danger of reaping their grave reward.
Perhaps Voltaire (rather witty as Atheists go) said it best:

"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbey, I detest that which you write,

mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I would give my life for that you have the puissance

continuer a ecrire."
to continue to write.

--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.

So it's everyone's right to choose his own path, whether it
be good, and whether it be evil: knowing God will bring all
things into Judgment. For this reason I believe in the sole,
unique, peculiar religion of Individualism, first & foremost.

Sincerely,
Daniel Joseph Minhttp://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Not only is the soul not immortal, it is a vicious lie

On Jul 8, 10:55?pm, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonym...@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007, thetruth90ca <thetruth9...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Do you believe in the immortality of the soul?

Don't know... am agnostic