ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
:|On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:42:02 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
:|<lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
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:|>ef_hutterite <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote:
:|>>On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:25:38 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
:|>><lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
:|>>>Anyone who includes a quote from Noah Webster in a discussion of what
:|>>>the Founders believed is without a clue.
:|>>
:|>>Why?
:|>>
:|>>HE authored our DICTIONARY!
:|>
:|>He wrote one of many dictionaries
:|
:|Which became the STANDARD!
A list of flawed quotes.
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/flawq.htm
What did the most important founders believe about separation of church and
stat
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/quote2.htm
James Madison on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qmadison.htm
Rufus King's views on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qking.htm
Edmund Randolph's views on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qrandolf.htm
Charles Pinckney and Separation of Church and State.
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qpinck.htm
George Mason's views on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qmason.htm
Thomas Jefferson on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qjeffson.htm
John Leland on Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qleland.htm
"Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, when
choosing your representatives" John Leland (1754-1841)
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/leland5.htm
Noah Webster's views on the Separation of Church and State
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/qwebstrn.htm
The first American dictionary to link "establishment" to a church was
Webster's 1828 edition, which was published almost forty years after the
First Amendment was drafted. Webster supplemented the sparser 1806 edition
by adding the following definition: "The episcopal form of religion, so
called in England."
[Referring to this new 1828 definition, Justice Rehnquist, in support of
his argument that the word "establishment" "had a well-accepted meaning,"
ignored Webster's 1806 edition and wrongly stated that the 1828 edition was
"the first American dictionary." Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38, 106
(1985) (Rehnquist, J. dissenting).]
Establishment, Part II
http://candst.tripod.com/est02.html
Rehnquist, Wallace v. Jaffree: a Rebuttal
Correcting the flawed history of Chief Justice W. Rehnquist
http://candst.tripod.com/rebuttal.htm
What about quotations that appear to oppose separation?
http://candst.tripod.com/founder4.htm
Quotes in General
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/studygd7a.htm
Problematical Separationist Quotes
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/studygd7b.htm
Problematical Religious Right Quotes And Arguments
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/studygd7d.htm
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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