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"SDR" |
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14 Dec 2003 08:02:50 PM |
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Re: Does God Exist? |
(Jinx) wrote in message
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gourgandise@yahoo.fr (Gourgandise) wrote in message
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The real question is : If God exists, why doesn't he make his job ????
You're right. Assume for a moment there is a God. Why doesn't he do
anything?
If God does everything it would be hard to differentiate
any one thing in particular as being the/a work of God.
This line of argument is self-defeating.
Frankly, I could do a better job myself if I was that powerful. For
example, I'd start by wiping out the horrible little bugs in water
Those little bugs are part of the food chain: Eliminate them
and the WHOLE UNIVERSE collapses into the belly of a frog
(which is then eaten by the turtle on whose back the world rests).
that get into people's eyes and cause them to go blind. Since I would,
and God doesn't - or won't - I suppose that means I'm a better person
than God. In fact, we virtually all are better people than God. Why
worship someone who doesn't care?
Sorry, no: God DID exactly as you suggest He do (that is, He
first placed lovable little bugs in the water, but people being
what they are, they would mash hundreds of them and spread the
spread over their faces to increase their sexual attractiveness).
This is why God was forced to replace those bugs with the horrible
bugs that now SURVIVE in the water and bring balance to the world!
I don't know whether you know there's no God or believe there is,
but the proof against God is not in the interpretations of men (as
you seem to think), but in the immutable laws of physics: If you
keep faith with the laws of physics (don't lose touch with reality)
you know there is no God... not least of which because God is
categorically excluded by the laws of physics:
Regardless whatever crazy misinterpretations of Quantum Theory,
there is no uncaused effect possible in our reality (this means
there is no possibility of free will, and God, as most commonly
defined, is the highest personification of free will). In fact, most
religions claim God IS the ONLY expression of free will in the
universe and that the rest of us are shadows in His "dreams."
But, as you can see: If there were free will, the universe could
not "continue." God would have awakened long ago, or changed
his mind at some point. (What it all boils down to is that God is
irrelevant/not needed.) Worse: If God does not exist, it is impossible
to dispute any con man's contention that he speaks for God (and
obviously: God will never dispute this either). Period.
That's not to say that cathedral-builders were mistaken. They built
their structures to celebrate that which is good about human nature -
about us. If God is anywhere - and he's not a 'being', obviously, - he
is the part of your nature that does as it would be done by.
Pride, envy, megalomania, public theft on the grand scale built
those cathedrals just as they built the pyramids and Saddam Hussein's
palaces. God is not required for our human follies, except as a damn
good excuse for them.
S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://democracy.sdrodrian.com
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| User: "Richard Dell" |
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| Title: Re: Does God Exist? |
15 Dec 2003 04:05:35 PM |
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"SDR" <sdrodrian@sdrodrian.com> wrote in message
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philipdaviddunn@yahoo.co.uk (Jinx) wrote in message
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Try your logic on the riddle of Epicurus.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
http://www.positiveatheism.org/
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