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Re: Earth is only 6,000 years old. |
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
Rev 14:1b-3
There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144,000... And they sang a new song before
the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had
been redeemed from the earth.
"How come anyone is Christian, if god only takes 144 thousand people to
heaven?" Even after "6000" years of exsistence you would think the
place would be full by now.
grinder wrote:
How can the religious right and intelligent design idiots explain finding
dinasoar bones millions of years old? Oh, I remember. The intelligent
design folks are the same ones who said the earth was the center of the
universe, the sun revolved around the earth and the earth itself was flat.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html
The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph of the
first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: "In the beginning, God created
heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this chronology,
occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of October in
the year 710 of the Julian period." In the right margin of the page, Ussher
computes the date in "Christian" time as 4004 B.C.
Ussher began his calculation by adding the ages of the twenty-one
generations of people of the Hebrew-derived Old Testament, beginning with
Adam and Eve. If the Bible is to be believed, they were an exceptionally
long-lived lot. Genesis, for example, tells us that "Adam lived 930 years
and he died." Adam's great-great-great-great-great-grandson, Methuselah,
claimed the longevity record, coming in at 969 years. Healthier living
conditions contributed, or so it was believed, to the long life spans of the
early generations of the Bible. Josephus, a Jewish theologian writing in
the first century, explained it this way: "Their food was fitter for the
prolongation of life.and besides, God afforded them a longer lifespan on
account of their virtue."
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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29 Nov 2005 03:21:55 PM |
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<christopher.lynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133297971.429622.264800@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
Rev 14:1b-3
There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144,000... And they sang a new song before
the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had
been redeemed from the earth.
"How come anyone is Christian, if god only takes 144 thousand people to
heaven?" Even after "6000" years of exsistence you would think the
place would be full by now.
It doesnt mean God only takes 144,000 to heaven.It means they have some sort
of role to play that is not described.
An interesting item.
The F-117 has a skin called "Iron Ball", which I have already mentioned that
I produced some of the batches of the material.
Matthew 1:17-Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to
David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the
exile to the Christ
Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a
rod of iron.
grinder wrote:
How can the religious right and intelligent design idiots explain finding
dinasoar bones millions of years old? Oh, I remember. The intelligent
design folks are the same ones who said the earth was the center of the
universe, the sun revolved around the earth and the earth itself was
flat.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html
The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph of
the
first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: "In the beginning, God created
heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this chronology,
occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of October
in
the year 710 of the Julian period." In the right margin of the page,
Ussher
computes the date in "Christian" time as 4004 B.C.
Ussher began his calculation by adding the ages of the twenty-one
generations of people of the Hebrew-derived Old Testament, beginning with
Adam and Eve. If the Bible is to be believed, they were an exceptionally
long-lived lot. Genesis, for example, tells us that "Adam lived 930
years
and he died." Adam's great-great-great-great-great-grandson, Methuselah,
claimed the longevity record, coming in at 969 years. Healthier living
conditions contributed, or so it was believed, to the long life spans of
the
early generations of the Bible. Josephus, a Jewish theologian writing in
the first century, explained it this way: "Their food was fitter for the
prolongation of life.and besides, God afforded them a longer lifespan on
account of their virtue."
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Earth is only 6,000 years old. |
29 Nov 2005 03:50:39 PM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
<christopher.lynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133297971.429622.264800@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
Rev 14:1b-3
There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144,000... And they sang a new song before
the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had
been redeemed from the earth.
"How come anyone is Christian, if god only takes 144 thousand people to
heaven?" Even after "6000" years of exsistence you would think the
place would be full by now.
It doesnt mean God only takes 144,000 to heaven.It means they have some sort
of role to play that is not described.
An interesting item.
The F-117 has a skin called "Iron Ball", which I have already mentioned that
I produced some of the batches of the material.
Matthew 1:17-Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to
David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the
exile to the Christ
Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a
rod of iron.
grinder wrote:
How can the religious right and intelligent design idiots explain finding
dinasoar bones millions of years old? Oh, I remember. The intelligent
design folks are the same ones who said the earth was the center of the
universe, the sun revolved around the earth and the earth itself was
flat.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html
The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph of
the
first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: "In the beginning, God created
heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this chronology,
occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of October
in
the year 710 of the Julian period." In the right margin of the page,
Ussher
computes the date in "Christian" time as 4004 B.C.
Ussher began his calculation by adding the ages of the twenty-one
generations of people of the Hebrew-derived Old Testament, beginning with
Adam and Eve. If the Bible is to be believed, they were an exceptionally
long-lived lot. Genesis, for example, tells us that "Adam lived 930
years
and he died." Adam's great-great-great-great-great-grandson, Methuselah,
claimed the longevity record, coming in at 969 years. Healthier living
conditions contributed, or so it was believed, to the long life spans of
the
early generations of the Bible. Josephus, a Jewish theologian writing in
the first century, explained it this way: "Their food was fitter for the
prolongation of life.and besides, God afforded them a longer lifespan on
account of their virtue."
Aren't you the guy who announced you were unsubscribing from
alt.atheism yesterday?
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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29 Nov 2005 03:54:00 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133301039.949575.294580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<christopher.lynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133297971.429622.264800@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
Rev 14:1b-3
There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144,000... And they sang a new song before
the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had
been redeemed from the earth.
"How come anyone is Christian, if god only takes 144 thousand people to
heaven?" Even after "6000" years of exsistence you would think the
place would be full by now.
It doesnt mean God only takes 144,000 to heaven.It means they have some
sort
of role to play that is not described.
An interesting item.
The F-117 has a skin called "Iron Ball", which I have already mentioned
that
I produced some of the batches of the material.
Matthew 1:17-Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham
to
David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the
exile to the Christ
Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations
with a
rod of iron.
grinder wrote:
How can the religious right and intelligent design idiots explain
finding
dinasoar bones millions of years old? Oh, I remember. The
intelligent
design folks are the same ones who said the earth was the center of
the
universe, the sun revolved around the earth and the earth itself was
flat.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html
The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph
of
the
first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: "In the beginning, God
created
heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this
chronology,
occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of
October
in
the year 710 of the Julian period." In the right margin of the page,
Ussher
computes the date in "Christian" time as 4004 B.C.
Ussher began his calculation by adding the ages of the twenty-one
generations of people of the Hebrew-derived Old Testament, beginning
with
Adam and Eve. If the Bible is to be believed, they were an
exceptionally
long-lived lot. Genesis, for example, tells us that "Adam lived 930
years
and he died." Adam's great-great-great-great-great-grandson,
Methuselah,
claimed the longevity record, coming in at 969 years. Healthier
living
conditions contributed, or so it was believed, to the long life spans
of
the
early generations of the Bible. Josephus, a Jewish theologian writing
in
the first century, explained it this way: "Their food was fitter for
the
prolongation of life.and besides, God afforded them a longer lifespan
on
account of their virtue."
Aren't you the guy who announced you were unsubscribing from
alt.atheism yesterday?
I am posting from alt.politics.bush.
Thanks for remininding me to check multiple groups, so as not to invade your
intellectual treasure trove again
"the guy"
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| User: "John Baker" |
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29 Nov 2005 05:38:13 PM |
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On 29 Nov 2005 13:50:39 -0800, "Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<christopher.lynn@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133297971.429622.264800@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
Rev 14:1b-3
There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144,000... And they sang a new song before
the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had
been redeemed from the earth.
"How come anyone is Christian, if god only takes 144 thousand people to
heaven?" Even after "6000" years of exsistence you would think the
place would be full by now.
It doesnt mean God only takes 144,000 to heaven.It means they have some sort
of role to play that is not described.
An interesting item.
The F-117 has a skin called "Iron Ball", which I have already mentioned that
I produced some of the batches of the material.
Matthew 1:17-Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to
David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the
exile to the Christ
Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a
rod of iron.
grinder wrote:
How can the religious right and intelligent design idiots explain finding
dinasoar bones millions of years old? Oh, I remember. The intelligent
design folks are the same ones who said the earth was the center of the
universe, the sun revolved around the earth and the earth itself was
flat.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html
The date forever tied to Bishop Ussher appears in the first paragraph of
the
first page of The Annals. Ussher wrote: "In the beginning, God created
heaven and earth, which beginning of time, according to this chronology,
occurred at the beginning of the night which preceded the 23rd of October
in
the year 710 of the Julian period." In the right margin of the page,
Ussher
computes the date in "Christian" time as 4004 B.C.
Ussher began his calculation by adding the ages of the twenty-one
generations of people of the Hebrew-derived Old Testament, beginning with
Adam and Eve. If the Bible is to be believed, they were an exceptionally
long-lived lot. Genesis, for example, tells us that "Adam lived 930
years
and he died." Adam's great-great-great-great-great-grandson, Methuselah,
claimed the longevity record, coming in at 969 years. Healthier living
conditions contributed, or so it was believed, to the long life spans of
the
early generations of the Bible. Josephus, a Jewish theologian writing in
the first century, explained it this way: "Their food was fitter for the
prolongation of life.and besides, God afforded them a longer lifespan on
account of their virtue."
Aren't you the guy who announced you were unsubscribing from
alt.atheism yesterday?
He's lied about everything else, why take him at his word on that? <G>
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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29 Nov 2005 08:34:56 PM |
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Now that's just silly. It has been PROVEN beyond any doubt to be 4.6
billion years old.
Just like it was proven not to be flat, and not the center of the universe.
Stop flying your bibles into our skyscrapers!
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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30 Nov 2005 07:13:01 AM |
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Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is symbolic
and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed to be the
good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not till
judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven before
judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Nov 2005 10:55:15 AM |
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"Sport Pilot" <hppilot001@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1133356381.893832.95430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is symbolic
and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed to be the
good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not till
judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven before
judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
That's nice, deary.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Nov 2005 05:57:18 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:55:15 -0500, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Sport Pilot" <hppilot001@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1133356381.893832.95430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is symbolic
and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed to be the
good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not till
judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven before
judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
That's nice, deary.
He's much more intelligent than you are, robinkof.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "John Baker" |
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30 Nov 2005 01:51:54 PM |
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On 30 Nov 2005 05:13:01 -0800, "Sport Pilot" <hppilot001@cs.com>
wrote:
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is symbolic
and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed to be the
good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not till
judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven before
judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
That's nice. Do they still make you write with a crayon, or do they
let you use a pencil if you're supervised?
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| User: "Human" |
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30 Nov 2005 02:22:26 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:hl0so11e6v39j77524n94h9e3f0m6io7ss@4ax.com...
: On 30 Nov 2005 05:13:01 -0800, "Sport Pilot"
<hppilot001@cs.com>
: wrote:
:
: >Revelation's also should not be take literally.
Much of it is symbolic
: >and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is
believed to be the
: >good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven,
but not till
: >judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go
to heaven before
: >judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or
purgatory till
: >judgement day.
:
: That's nice. Do they still make you write with a
crayon, or do they
: let you use a pencil if you're supervised?
Since he is home schooled there is not they, it is
"does mommy still make you write ........"
:
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| User: "John Baker" |
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30 Nov 2005 02:44:10 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:22:26 GMT, "Human"
<_Fuckin_rightards@god_-kills.com> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:hl0so11e6v39j77524n94h9e3f0m6io7ss@4ax.com...
: On 30 Nov 2005 05:13:01 -0800, "Sport Pilot"
<hppilot001@cs.com>
: wrote:
:
: >Revelation's also should not be take literally.
Much of it is symbolic
: >and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is
believed to be the
: >good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven,
but not till
: >judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go
to heaven before
: >judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or
purgatory till
: >judgement day.
:
: That's nice. Do they still make you write with a
crayon, or do they
: let you use a pencil if you're supervised?
Since he is home schooled there is not they, it is
"does mommy still make you write ........"
I was referring to the staff at the home.. <G>
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| User: "Human" |
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30 Nov 2005 02:50:17 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:pn3so1dpllovicts8053hgb814aoqke57g@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:22:26 GMT, "Human"
: <_Fuckin_rightards@god_-kills.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
: >news:hl0so11e6v39j77524n94h9e3f0m6io7ss@4ax.com...
: >: On 30 Nov 2005 05:13:01 -0800, "Sport Pilot"
: ><hppilot001@cs.com>
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >Revelation's also should not be take literally.
: >Much of it is symbolic
: >: >and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is
: >believed to be the
: >: >good Jews. Many Christians will also go to
heaven,
: >but not till
: >: >judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will
go
: >to heaven before
: >: >judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or
: >purgatory till
: >: >judgement day.
: >:
: >: That's nice. Do they still make you write with a
: >crayon, or do they
: >: let you use a pencil if you're supervised?
: >
: >Since he is home schooled there is not they, it is
: >"does mommy still make you write ........"
:
: I was referring to the staff at the home.. <G>
As the old office joke goes. " I have a position on my
staff for a person like her" staff?
:
:
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| User: "Sport Pilot" |
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30 Nov 2005 03:06:12 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
On 30 Nov 2005 05:13:01 -0800, "Sport Pilot" <hppilot001@cs.com>
wrote:
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is symbolic
and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed to be the
good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not till
judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven before
judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
That's nice. Do they still make you write with a crayon, or do they
let you use a pencil if you're supervised?
Actually I not sure that Revelations does not belong in the Bible, it
should have been struck when the cannonized the Bible. I am only
stating the belief.
It seems a more acurate vision for the fall of the Roman Empire than
the end of the earth. The 144,000 would be the Jews and perhaps
Christians who were spared during the sacking of Rome. Yet another
belief knocking around Christian circles. But of course people full of
hatred such as yourself, find every oportunity to show your hatred and
stupidity.
I guess next you will point out my spelling or grammer mistakes to make
yourself feel smart.
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| User: "Sid9" |
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30 Nov 2005 07:28:40 AM |
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Sport Pilot wrote:
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is
symbolic and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed
to be the good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not
till judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven
before judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
What *****!
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Nov 2005 05:56:48 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:28:40 -0500, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
Revelation's also should not be take literally. Much of it is
symbolic and is not fully understood today, the 144,000 is believed
to be the good Jews. Many Christians will also go to heaven, but not
till judgement day. Only Saints and the 144,000 will go to heaven
before judgement day. The rest stay in the ground, or purgatory till
judgement day.
What *****!
Yes you are.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Nov 2005 05:32:26 AM |
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On 29 Nov 2005 12:59:31 -0800, wrote:
Here's one that I have in all my years never, ever, received a
reasonable answer to from a Christian.
1. It's a professed dream.
2. Hebrews used numbers as 3, 7, 12, 40, etc symbolically. 144,000 is a
synonym for a very large number, and not an absolute value.
3. There's nothing in the bible that says the world is 6000 years old.
And now you know the rest of the story.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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