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"The other Donald" |
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16 Oct 2004 02:43:42 PM |
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Re: Edwards claims Kerry has the power to heal |
"forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-D8E659.10235016102004@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <oEEbd.919$rY1.628@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeehaw2.com> wrote:
Third, don't fucking trifle with me about "advancements" or "promise" in
this field of medicine. I already have both barrels loaded and ready to
fire.
You rock, dude.
Thanks. Just fighting the good fight, with facts as my best weapon.
And I'm sorry to hear about all your losses to disease that could've
been helped. I'm a spinal patient myself, so I also know of what I speak.
Tell us.....
Do you consider restoring the movement of legs in a paralyzed rat to be a
"false hope?"
In a conversation with my brother over the weekend of Oct. 9, we spoke at
length about this issue. (He is a quadraplegic, though his spinal cord is
intact.) He is sheepish of the fact that an aborted, second-trimester fetus
holds such great hope in the particular material he has read, but then he
looks himself in the mirror and realizes the reality.
Ronnie tends to be quite religious, where I am an atheist. Within his own
belief system, I asked him if his God would allow men to find a solution
like this if He didn't want us to. This is not a choice between whether to
steal or not (which opens its own can of worms) but how to fix the human
body and further advance ourselves as a species.
For him, it is a fight between his religion and reality. What he hasn't
realized yet is that his religious beliefs would support the research. It is
the bastardized interpretation on the part of control freaks that is causing
the confusion.
Once people begin to really dig deep into their religion, those
"controllers" are doomed. Science and medicine has advanced IN SPITE of
religious ignorance, and this is just another incident in our history.
Religious beliefs support the reasearch. Atheist ethics support it. The only
people that don't are those that pander dogma and fear to the masses, and
those idiot massess that buy into it.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "forge" |
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| Title: Re: Edwards claims Kerry has the power to heal |
16 Oct 2004 03:27:05 PM |
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In article <ORecd.7529$rY1.2381@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeehaw2.com> wrote:
Religious beliefs support the reasearch. Atheist ethics support it. The only
people that don't are those that pander dogma and fear to the masses, and
those idiot massess that buy into it.
I agree with this sentiment.
It's back to that old joke about the guy sitting on his roof in a flood,
and a guy in a canoe, a guy in a powerboat and a guy in a helicopter all
come try to rescue him and he says "nope, I'm waiting for the Lord to
save me." And the waters rise and he drowns and he meets the Lord and
asks "why didn't you save me?" And the Lord looks at him and says "Dude,
I sent you a canoe, a powerboat and a helicopter, what more did you
want?"
If God didn't want us to cure these awful diseases ourselves, he
wouldn't present us with these solutions. Is what I feel.
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