Religions > Atheism > Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease
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16 Nov 2006 12:25:51 PM |
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Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
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In article <9ucml2lookiiroh5kigfstui0u2fghmeca@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 15 Nov 2006 02:07:39 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote:
Two babies have become the first in the world to be born after their
mother underwent a screening process pioneered in Britain to ensure
that they were clear of an inherited disease.
Freddie and Thomas Greenstreet's parents both carry genes that made it
likely that their children would be born with a rare form of cystic
fibrosis, a debilitating, inherited condition from which their first
daughter suffers.
But the new technique allows embryos to be screened and only the
healthy ones used for IVF. Screening has been used regularly in the
past for people having IVF but doctors at Guy's Hospital, London, have
refined the procedure so that a much wider number of inherited diseases
can be detected.
Isn't science wonderful? Or is it the goal of religion to make sure
that babies are born with more genetic defects than just the religion
gene?
• Since God's Holy Church teaches that suffering is one of the paths to
Salvaton, a torturous hereditary disease could easily mean the difference
between Heaven and eternal torture in Hell.
You're in favor in making things as horrible as possible for
all those who would aspire to heaven, I take it?
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
-- cary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
16 Nov 2006 02:14:09 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
Who you gonna trust, your sense of ethics or a god?
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes."
- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
16 Nov 2006 02:21:36 PM |
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In article <hjhpl25lpvq932601fn93689itmv1m3soa@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
Who you gonna trust, your sense of ethics or a god?
You need to be more specific: which god? Bast, Baccus,
Aphrodite, Pan, Halle Berry...could be a close call with
any of these.
-- cary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
16 Nov 2006 04:20:13 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:21:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <hjhpl25lpvq932601fn93689itmv1m3soa@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
Who you gonna trust, your sense of ethics or a god?
You need to be more specific: which god? Bast, Baccus,
Aphrodite, Pan, Halle Berry...could be a close call with
any of these.
With the last one, certainly.
Maybe with Baccus ...
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Christians tell us that they love their enemies, and yet all I ask
is - not that they love their friends even, but they treat those
who differ from them , with simple fairness. We do not wish to be
forgiven but we wish Christians to so act that we will not have
to forgive them."
- Robert Ingersoll
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
16 Nov 2006 04:35:58 PM |
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In article <gqopl2tct8m8tg4b8qaoths4cnporoneap@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:21:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <hjhpl25lpvq932601fn93689itmv1m3soa@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
Who you gonna trust, your sense of ethics or a god?
You need to be more specific: which god? Bast, Baccus,
Aphrodite, Pan, Halle Berry...could be a close call with
any of these.
With the last one, certainly.
Maybe with Baccus ...
Hey, you gonna drink that or what?
-- cary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Eugenics Alive And Well: British Babies Designed To Be Free Of Disease |
16 Nov 2006 06:48:21 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:35:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <gqopl2tct8m8tg4b8qaoths4cnporoneap@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:21:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <hjhpl25lpvq932601fn93689itmv1m3soa@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
I suppose we could start by withholding antibiotics from all
believers, but my humanistic sense of ethics rebels at the idea.
Who you gonna trust, your sense of ethics or a god?
You need to be more specific: which god? Bast, Baccus,
Aphrodite, Pan, Halle Berry...could be a close call with
any of these.
With the last one, certainly.
Maybe with Baccus ...
Hey, you gonna drink that or what?
:::slurp:::
What was that?
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rukbat at optonline dot net
I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures
or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither
can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives
its physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egotism,
cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eter-
nity of life and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the exist-
ing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a
portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in
nature.
- Albert Einstein, as quoted in _Billions and Billions_, Carl Sagan.
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