Religions > Atheism > Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move)
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01 Aug 2003 07:11:30 AM |
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Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
Thus Speakeath Evil Editor :
"You (God) fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved."
(I know this is not really an evil Bible quote, but it is just so stupid
that I had to post it.)
When was the last time the earth disappeared from under your feet?
1. God suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
The concept of "space" put forth in 2200 BC.
The concept that the outline of the earth is circular put forth in 700 BC.
Keep on speaking Mr. Evil Editor. Obvously these things are stupid. The
earth must vanish from underneath you all the time. You must think the
earth is suspended in ether. You must believe the earth has the cross
section of a square.
But all means, proceed. I am continually amazed at how blind a person can
willfully make himself. And I am amazed that you have followers. The
"Yosemite Llama" must have purchased his blinders from the same company you
did.
Do you guys really think you are fooling anybody other than yourselves?
One simple glance at a concordance unravels everything you say.
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
The Earth Doesn't Move (Psalm 104:5 NAB)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
01 Aug 2003 09:32:20 AM |
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Brian Ceccarelli wrote:
Thus Speakeath Evil Editor :
"You (God) fixed the earth on its foundation,
never to be moved."
(I know this is not really an evil Bible quote,
but it is just so stupid that I had to post it.)
When was the last time the earth disappeared from
under your feet?
Non sequitur.
1. God suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7
Prove it. You can't. The Earth is not suspended.
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the
earth. Isa 40:22
The Earth is not a circle. It's a globe.
The concept of "space" put forth in 2200 BC.
Their concept of space was that the stars were
permanently fixed in the "firmament". They had no
concept of space as we know it today.
The concept that the outline of the earth is
circular put forth in 700 BC.
Circular as in a flat circle.
Keep on speaking Mr. Evil Editor. Obvously[sic] these
things are stupid....
Finally you got something right. The "science" of the
bible is pretty stupid, although it was about par for a
late bronze age society.
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David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
dave@TheLlamaRanch.com
http://www.TheLlamaRanch.com
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Brian Ceccarelli" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 07:52:51 AM |
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By demonstration, Editor of Evil Bible:
1. Does not think that the cross section of the earth is a circle.
2. Thinks that God always talks to everyone in terms of a modern
astrophysics book.
3. When talking about his shirt color, would tell them "Look at my
shirt, isn't it a nice shade of 5000 angstroms?"
4. Cannot conceive of a foundation which is mobile, or is made up
something other than concrete.
5.. Cannot understand that the earth not moving from its foundation,
does not mean that the foundation and the earth do not move together.
6. Does not understand relative frames of reference..
7. For instance, cannot conceive of a foundation like atoms or
superstrings.
8.. Still thinks the earth is falling apart, because the earth
obviously has no foundation of any kind.
9. Does not know what a metaphor is.
10. Does not know that the Bible does not contain poetry.
Keep going, Mr. Editor. You are very amusing.
I don't know what poetry is. What is a metaphor? Whatever those are,
the Bible does not use them. Qhat
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"Brian Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
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Thus Speakeath Evil Editor :
"You (God) fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved."
(I know this is not really an evil Bible quote, but it is just so
stupid
that I had to post it.)
When was the last time the earth disappeared from under your feet?
This doesn't say a damn thing about the earth disappearing. If you have
to
lie to support your argument it must not be a sound argument.
This verse says the earth does not move! Clearly the earth moves both in
its rotation around its axis and around the sun.
There is also no "foundation" on which the earth rests.
1. God suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7
And a few lines later it says the heavens are held up by pillars. (Job
26:11) This is not consistent with reality.
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
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| User: "John Hattan" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 04:18:21 PM |
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"Brian Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
By demonstration, Editor of Evil Bible:
1. Does not think that the cross section of the earth is a circle.
The cross section of a banana is also a circle. Does that make it
correct to say that bananas are circles?
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John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
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| User: "€R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
06 Aug 2003 06:34:04 AM |
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In article <g9jtiv8r7oootte0c6g0g67jqlg8c64pdq@4ax.com>,
john@thecodezone.com wrote:
"Brian Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
By demonstration, Editor of Evil Bible:
1. Does not think that the cross section of the earth is a circle.
The cross section of a banana is also a circle. Does that make it
correct to say that bananas are circles?
---
€ excellent
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Rich, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "€R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
05 Aug 2003 08:03:26 PM |
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In article <DGsXa.336098$_w.13343756@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Brian
Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
By demonstration, Editor of Evil Bible:
1. Does not think that the cross section of the earth is a circle.
€ If the section is vertical, the shape is is an ellipse because the
earth's radius is greater at the equator than at the poles by a difference
of c.50-miles -- due to the effect of centrifugal force.
Keep going, Mr. Editor. You are very amusing.
€ A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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Rich, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 11:59:56 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:52:51 GMT, "Brian Ceccarelli"
<brian@talusmusic.com> posted in alt.atheism:
By demonstration, Editor of Evil Bible:
1. Does not think that the cross section of the earth is a circle.
Calling a spheroid a circle is just plain wrong. (The bible says
nothing about cross-sections.)
2. Thinks that God always talks to everyone in terms of a modern
astrophysics book.
If the bible gets something wrong, it's wrong.
5.. Cannot understand that the earth not moving from its foundation,
does not mean that the foundation and the earth do not move together.
Since the Earth doesn't sit on any foundation ...
6. Does not understand relative frames of reference..
The bible never mentions frames of reference or relativity.
Everything in the bible is an absolute.
8.. Still thinks the earth is falling apart, because the earth
obviously has no foundation of any kind.
One has nothing to do with the other.
9. Does not know what a metaphor is.
The bible has no indication of metaphor. Salad bar Christianity is
just about the most dishonest stance one can take.
10. Does not know that the Bible does not contain poetry.
The bible DOES contain poetry.
No amount of apologism will make the bible correct.
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"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
01 Aug 2003 11:06:48 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 12:11:30 GMT, "Brian Ceccarelli"
<brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
Thus Speakeath Evil Editor :
"You (God) fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved."
(I know this is not really an evil Bible quote, but it is just so stupid
that I had to post it.)
When was the last time the earth disappeared from under your feet?
It does not have to disappear in order to move. It may be news to
you, but it does move.
1. God suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7
Indicating that the Earth is hanging, which implies an up and a down.
It is not hanging. There is no up or down in space.
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
The Earth is not a circle.
The concept of "space" put forth in 2200 BC.
A wrong concept.
The concept that the outline of the earth is circular put forth in 700 BC.
Wrong again.
Keep on speaking Mr. Evil Editor. Obvously these things are stupid. The
earth must vanish from underneath you all the time.
Does not follow from what was said.
You must think the
earth is suspended in ether.
Does not follow from what was said. Do you believe there is an up and
down in space or that the Earth is hanging?
You must believe the earth has the cross
section of a square.
Does not follow from what was said.
But all means, proceed. I am continually amazed at how blind a person can
willfully make himself. And I am amazed that you have followers. The
"Yosemite Llama" must have purchased his blinders from the same company you
did.
Do you guys really think you are fooling anybody other than yourselves?
One simple glance at a concordance unravels everything you say.
You have not been able to show that that is true.
snip
Thomas P.
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| User: "Yang" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
01 Aug 2003 08:47:05 PM |
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:29:05 -0400, "Editor of EvilBible.com"
<Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
"Brian Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
news:SNsWa.317246$_w.12754799@twister.southeast.rr.com...
Thus Speakeath Evil Editor :
"You (God) fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved."
(I know this is not really an evil Bible quote, but it is just so stupid
that I had to post it.)
When was the last time the earth disappeared from under your feet?
This doesn't say a damn thing about the earth disappearing. If you have to
lie to support your argument it must not be a sound argument.
This verse says the earth does not move! Clearly the earth moves both in
its rotation around its axis and around the sun.
There is also no "foundation" on which the earth rests.
1. God suspends the earth over nothing. Job 26:7
And a few lines later it says the heavens are held up by pillars. (Job
26:11) This is not consistent with reality.
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
Fundamentalists aren't known for having multiple dimensions.
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Yang
a.a. #28
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The Bush Iraq lie: -249 GIs and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Brian Ceccarelli" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 08:05:25 AM |
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"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
Fundamentalists aren't known for having multiple dimensions
People such as yourself, like Mr. Editor of EvilBible, who is so ashamed to
post his real e-mail address,
1. Are known for their bad assumptions. (e.g., I am not a fundamentalist.)
2. Are known for their illiteracy (unable to read literature in context.)
3. Are hyprocrits by allowing themselves to use metaphor (e.g.,
"Fundamentalists aren't known from having multiple dimensions.") even though
scientifically wrong (all people have 3 dimensions) , but will not allow God
or a Bible author the same literary privilege. It is either that or you
believe that fundamentalists are a "point".
4. Apparently, from a distance, think that the earth looks like a square.
Yang, you and Mr .Editor, must be dating.
Can you guys actually come up with an argument against Christ that is
remotely intellectual? Or is self-dishonesty your only weapons?
Everyone, even yourselves if I am sure, see through it.
Brian
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 03:44:51 PM |
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"Brian Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
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"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
Fundamentalists aren't known for having multiple dimensions
People such as yourself, like Mr. Editor of EvilBible, who is so ashamed
to
post his real e-mail address,
I am not ashamed of anything I post. I don't post my e-mail address because
it is a sure way to get spam. I have my e-mail address listed on my web
site, but I don't like to encourage people to send me e-mail because I often
don't have time to respond to everyone.
1. Are known for their bad assumptions. (e.g., I am not a
fundamentalist.)
That was not my assumption.
2. Are known for their illiteracy (unable to read literature in context.)
I read what is written. I don't make up a bunch of crap and tell people
that it is in the Bible.
3. Are hyprocrits by allowing themselves to use metaphor (e.g.,
"Fundamentalists aren't known from having multiple dimensions.") even
though
scientifically wrong (all people have 3 dimensions) , but will not allow
God
or a Bible author the same literary privilege. It is either that or
you
believe that fundamentalists are a "point".
Once again, that was posted by someone else.
4. Apparently, from a distance, think that the earth looks like a square.
If it did it would match up with the Bible's frequent description of the
earth as having four corners.
Yang, you and Mr .Editor, must be dating.
Can you guys actually come up with an argument against Christ that is
remotely intellectual? Or is self-dishonesty your only weapons?
Everyone, even yourselves if I am sure, see through it.
I have never been dishonest. You apparently feel the need to lie to support
your arguments. If you have to lie to support your argument, then it's
probably not a sound argument.
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| User: "€R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
05 Aug 2003 08:05:59 PM |
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In article <pSsXa.336099$_w.13345705@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Brian
Ceccarelli" <brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
Fundamentalists aren't known for having multiple dimensions
People such as yourself, like Mr. Editor of EvilBible, who is so ashamed to
post his real e-mail address,
1. Are known for their bad assumptions. (e.g., I am not a fundamentalist.)
2. Are known for their illiteracy (unable to read literature in context.)
3. Are hyprocrits by allowing themselves to use metaphor (e.g.,
"Fundamentalists aren't known from having multiple dimensions.") even though
scientifically wrong (all people have 3 dimensions) , but will not allow God
or a Bible author the same literary privilege. It is either that or you
believe that fundamentalists are a "point".
4. Apparently, from a distance, think that the earth looks like a square.
Yang, you and Mr .Editor, must be dating.
Can you guys actually come up with an argument against Christ that is
remotely intellectual? Or is self-dishonesty your only weapons?
€ the problem with Christianity is revisions made after the 1st Century.
cheers, Brian
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Rich, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for July 25 (The Earth Doesn't Move) |
04 Aug 2003 02:08:26 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:05:25 GMT, "Brian Ceccarelli"
<brian@talusmusic.com> wrote:
"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f2b17f3.2216109@news.cox.net...
2. Gods sits enthroned over the circle of the earth. Isa 40:22
A circle is not a sphere as the earth is.
Fundamentalists aren't known for having multiple dimensions
People such as yourself, like Mr. Editor of EvilBible, who is so ashamed to
post his real e-mail address,
Unwarranted accusation.
1. Are known for their bad assumptions. (e.g., I am not a fundamentalist.)
2. Are known for their illiteracy (unable to read literature in context.)
Claim constantly made but never backed up.
3. Are hyprocrits by allowing themselves to use metaphor (e.g.,
"Fundamentalists aren't known from having multiple dimensions.") even though
scientifically wrong (all people have 3 dimensions) , but will not allow God
or a Bible author the same literary privilege. It is either that or you
believe that fundamentalists are a "point".
The quotes you presented do not demonstrate that there is any modern
scientific knowledge contained in the Old Testament.
4. Apparently, from a distance, think that the earth looks like a square.
There is no justification for that remark.
Yang, you and Mr .Editor, must be dating.
Meaningless.
Can you guys actually come up with an argument against Christ that is
remotely intellectual? Or is self-dishonesty your only weapons?
You have given no examples of dishonesty. What is "self-dishonesty"?
Everyone, even yourselves if I am sure, see through it.
We see that you have nothing to offer of any substance. The Bible
quotes you provided revealed nothing more than beliefs held by many in
ancient times - i.e. the world was flat and shaped like a circle. The
Old Testament says that the Earth does not move, but we know that it
does. The Old Testament has (in the quote you provided) the Earth
being suspended over nothing, wrongly implying that it is being held
up and that there is an up and down in space. Those are valid
objections to your argument, which you have chosen to ignore.
Thomas P.
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