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"Biff" |
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31 Mar 2004 06:25:08 PM |
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Re: EXODUS FICTION |
"2004" <baglines@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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Catholicism has never been about - the literal study of the Bible - and
they
have bravely, rightfully, embraced the scientific truth of evolution .
What's "evolution" got to do with the bible's stories, in this case the
Creation one? I don't see the RCC declaring *anything* in the bible as
myth. Where do some of you people seem to witness this?
Biff
"Rafeek" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:08:13 -0800, penitent leper
<bastaschs@peak.org> wrote:
The Roman Catholic Church
- which long ago declared that Genesis does not have to be taken
literally, and that evolution is an acceptable scientific theory,
How very gracious of the catholic church to deem a scientific theory
"acceptable"... :)
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
31 Mar 2004 09:46:05 PM |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:25:08 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"2004" <baglines@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T7idnQ9Z1v3lqfbdRVn-ig@adelphia.com...
Catholicism has never been about - the literal study of the Bible - and
they
have bravely, rightfully, embraced the scientific truth of evolution .
What's "evolution" got to do with the bible's stories, in this case the
Creation one? I don't see the RCC declaring *anything* in the bible as
myth.
That's because you aren't bothering to look in the right places.
Where do some of you people seem to witness this?
Twelve years of RCC education, for one thing.
- pl -
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| User: "Biff" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
31 Mar 2004 11:14:53 PM |
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"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:25:08 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"2004" <baglines@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T7idnQ9Z1v3lqfbdRVn-ig@adelphia.com...
Catholicism has never been about - the literal study of the Bible - and
they
have bravely, rightfully, embraced the scientific truth of evolution .
What's "evolution" got to do with the bible's stories, in this case the
Creation one? I don't see the RCC declaring *anything* in the bible as
myth.
That's because you aren't bothering to look in the right places.
Where do some of you people seem to witness this?
Twelve years of RCC education, for one thing.
- pl -
Like usual you avoided my point and question. :-)
What does "evolution" have to do with claiming God creation never firstly
took place? :-)
Cat got your tongue?
Biff
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
31 Mar 2004 11:42:25 PM |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:14:53 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:25:08 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"2004" <baglines@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T7idnQ9Z1v3lqfbdRVn-ig@adelphia.com...
Catholicism has never been about - the literal study of the Bible - and
they
have bravely, rightfully, embraced the scientific truth of evolution .
What's "evolution" got to do with the bible's stories, in this case the
Creation one? I don't see the RCC declaring *anything* in the bible as
myth.
That's because you aren't bothering to look in the right places.
Where do some of you people seem to witness this?
Twelve years of RCC education, for one thing.
- pl -
Like usual you avoided my point and question. :-)
What does "evolution" have to do with claiming God creation never firstly
took place? :-)
I answered your question. Here goes again: Genesis says god
created earth in six days. Biblical literalists say that a normal six
day period was the span. No more. No less. God created the world -
not gods, not the Big Bang. Evolution is verboten to biblical
literalists. Not so for those who do not take the Bible literally.
For those who view Genesis as metaphorical, evolution is perfectly
okay. Again, you're confusing "metaphorical" with "untrue". Those
Christians and Jews who take Genesis seriously but not literally
maintain that Genesis is correct - the world originates in the divine
- but not in the details, e.g., the way God created the world can be
the Big Bang and evolution. They therefore claim that evolution and
the Big Bang are consonant with the idea of a Creative Sacred. They
can have evolution and the Big Bang as well as god. The biblical
literalists, on the other hand, can only have god as delineated in a
literal reading of Genesis.
- pl -
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| User: "Biff" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
31 Mar 2004 11:48:36 PM |
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*Where* does it literally say in the bible that there would be no evolution
resulting from its God's creation?
Biff
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:14:53 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:25:08 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
"2004" <baglines@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:T7idnQ9Z1v3lqfbdRVn-ig@adelphia.com...
Catholicism has never been about - the literal study of the Bible -
and
they
have bravely, rightfully, embraced the scientific truth of evolution
..
What's "evolution" got to do with the bible's stories, in this case
the
Creation one? I don't see the RCC declaring *anything* in the bible
as
myth.
That's because you aren't bothering to look in the right places.
Where do some of you people seem to witness this?
Twelve years of RCC education, for one thing.
- pl -
Like usual you avoided my point and question. :-)
What does "evolution" have to do with claiming God creation never firstly
took place? :-)
I answered your question. Here goes again: Genesis says god
created earth in six days. Biblical literalists say that a normal six
day period was the span. No more. No less. God created the world -
not gods, not the Big Bang. Evolution is verboten to biblical
literalists. Not so for those who do not take the Bible literally.
For those who view Genesis as metaphorical, evolution is perfectly
okay. Again, you're confusing "metaphorical" with "untrue". Those
Christians and Jews who take Genesis seriously but not literally
maintain that Genesis is correct - the world originates in the divine
- but not in the details, e.g., the way God created the world can be
the Big Bang and evolution. They therefore claim that evolution and
the Big Bang are consonant with the idea of a Creative Sacred. They
can have evolution and the Big Bang as well as god. The biblical
literalists, on the other hand, can only have god as delineated in a
literal reading of Genesis.
- pl -
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
01 Apr 2004 12:46:45 AM |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:48:36 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
*Where* does it literally say in the bible that there would be no evolution
resulting from its God's creation?
I didn't say the bible literally says there would be no evolution.
Please do me the courtesy of reading what I actually wrote, a sample
of which I preserve below.
I said that, read literally, the Bible has not one thing to say
about evolution or the Big Bang. Evolution and the Big Bang are
simply not to be found in the Bible, and I never said otherwise.
- pl -
I answered your question. Here goes again: Genesis says god
created earth in six days. Biblical literalists say that a normal six
day period was the span. No more. No less. God created the world -
not gods, not the Big Bang. Evolution is verboten to biblical
literalists. Not so for those who do not take the Bible literally.
For those who view Genesis as metaphorical, evolution is perfectly
okay. Again, you're confusing "metaphorical" with "untrue". Those
Christians and Jews who take Genesis seriously but not literally
maintain that Genesis is correct - the world originates in the divine
- but not in the details, e.g., the way God created the world can be
the Big Bang and evolution. They therefore claim that evolution and
the Big Bang are consonant with the idea of a Creative Sacred. They
can have evolution and the Big Bang as well as god. The biblical
literalists, on the other hand, can only have god as delineated in a
literal reading of Genesis.
- pl -
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| User: "Biff" |
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| Title: Re: EXODUS FICTION |
01 Apr 2004 01:06:47 AM |
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"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:48:36 -0800, "Biff" <nospam@aol.com> wrote:
*Where* does it literally say in the bible that there would be no
evolution
resulting from its God's creation?
I didn't say the bible literally says there would be no evolution.
Please do me the courtesy of reading what I actually wrote, a sample
of which I preserve below.
I said that, read literally, the Bible has not one thing to say
about evolution or the Big Bang. Evolution and the Big Bang are
simply not to be found in the Bible, and I never said otherwise.
- pl -
That's right so since the bible says nothing about evolution not being
possible a biblical literalist could come up with his God creating man and
at the same time putting evolution into motion. IOW, a literalist CAN be an
Evolutionist as well.
Biff
I answered your question. Here goes again: Genesis says god
created earth in six days. Biblical literalists say that a normal six
day period was the span. No more. No less. God created the world -
not gods, not the Big Bang. Evolution is verboten to biblical
literalists. Not so for those who do not take the Bible literally.
For those who view Genesis as metaphorical, evolution is perfectly
okay. Again, you're confusing "metaphorical" with "untrue". Those
Christians and Jews who take Genesis seriously but not literally
maintain that Genesis is correct - the world originates in the divine
- but not in the details, e.g., the way God created the world can be
the Big Bang and evolution. They therefore claim that evolution and
the Big Bang are consonant with the idea of a Creative Sacred. They
can have evolution and the Big Bang as well as god. The biblical
literalists, on the other hand, can only have god as delineated in a
literal reading of Genesis.
- pl -
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