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19 Oct 2004 03:55:43 PM |
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Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
On Tuesday, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:46 -0600, "Anti-Multiculty"
Antimulticulture@hotmaiil.com wrote:
Says the guy who uses flawed methods like Carbon-dating to come to
irreconcilable conclusions about the age of the earth
Flawed compared to what? the Bible?
From the moment Lyell began his measurements of the rates of
geological processes such as river- cut deepening (eg, like in the
Grand Canyon), delta elongation and so on, the Biblical "account" of
"the Creation" has been dead in the water.
Of course, the Bible overrules all those measurements made from
Lyell's time to the present, doesn't it?
They're all "flawed", right? like radioisotope dating and genetic
drift analysis, right? compared to the Bible, right?
<snort>
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
19 Oct 2004 03:59:23 PM |
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TV's mimus wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:46 -0600, "Anti-Multiculty"
Antimulticulture@hotmaiil.com wrote:
Says the guy who uses flawed methods like Carbon-dating to come to
irreconcilable conclusions about the age of the earth
Flawed compared to what? the Bible?
From the moment Lyell began his measurements of the rates of
geological processes such as river- cut deepening (eg, like in the
Grand Canyon), delta elongation and so on, the Biblical "account" of
"the Creation" has been dead in the water.
Of course, the Bible overrules all those measurements made from
Lyell's time to the present, doesn't it?
They're all "flawed", right? like radioisotope dating and genetic
drift analysis, right? compared to the Bible, right?
If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters claim it
is, there would have been big changes within the last 100 years. Features
of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago would be noticibly
different
than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the Bible is
wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic geology.
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| User: "Clough" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
20 Oct 2004 01:10:22 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:59:23 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
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If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters claim it
is, there would have been big changes within the last 100 years. Features
of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago would be noticibly
different than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the
Bible is wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic geology.
Nonsense. The Grand Canyon was formed by the hull of Noahs Ark
scraping it out as it floated along while the Flood subsided. This was
a one off event and proves the Truth of the Bible.
Clough
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| User: "grandwazoo" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
20 Oct 2004 01:40:45 AM |
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Clough wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:59:23 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters claim it
is, there would have been big changes within the last 100 years. Features
of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago would be noticibly
different than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the
Bible is wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic geology.
Nonsense. The Grand Canyon was formed by the hull of Noahs Ark
scraping it out as it floated along while the Flood subsided. This was
a one off event and proves the Truth of the Bible.
Clough
How many cubits is it across the canyon? Was the sun still revolving
around the earth? What happened to the other Jackalope?
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| User: "Clough" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
20 Oct 2004 02:20:22 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:40:45 -0700, grandwazoo <grand@nospam.com>
wrote:
Nonsense. The Grand Canyon was formed by the hull of Noahs Ark
scraping it out as it floated along while the Flood subsided. This was
a one off event and proves the Truth of the Bible.
How many cubits is it across the canyon? Was the sun still revolving
around the earth? What happened to the other Jackalope?
God doesn't need a male and female of each species. He can create by
Virgin Birth.
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
Clough
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| User: "mimus" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
20 Oct 2004 03:10:28 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:20:22 GMT, Clough <inuit@canoemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:40:45 -0700, grandwazoo <grand@nospam.com>
wrote:
Nonsense. The Grand Canyon was formed by the hull of Noahs Ark
scraping it out as it floated along while the Flood subsided. This was
a one off event and proves the Truth of the Bible.
How many cubits is it across the canyon? Was the sun still revolving
around the earth? What happened to the other Jackalope?
God doesn't need a male and female of each species. He can create by
Virgin Birth.
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
He could do 'em _ex nihilo_, too.
No need for virgins at all.
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We feel America went off the track politically
sometime in August of 1776.
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| User: "Clough" |
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20 Oct 2004 03:10:22 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
He could do 'em _ex nihilo_, too.
No need for virgins at all.
So where do you think virgins come from?
Clough
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| User: "mimus" |
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20 Oct 2004 04:22:28 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:22 GMT, Clough <inuit@canoemail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
He could do 'em _ex nihilo_, too.
No need for virgins at all.
So where do you think virgins come from?
Zygotes. I swear it.
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We feel America went off the track politically
sometime in August of 1776.
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| User: "Clough" |
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20 Oct 2004 04:20:48 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:22:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:22 GMT, Clough <inuit@canoemail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
He could do 'em _ex nihilo_, too.
No need for virgins at all.
So where do you think virgins come from?
Zygotes. I swear it.
I don't think there are any virgins where you come from.
Clough
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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20 Oct 2004 08:38:23 PM |
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Clough wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:22:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:22 GMT, Clough <inuit@canoemail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:10:28 GMT, (mimus)
wrote:
So if he wants to give us Jackalopes or Saviours, he can do it with
virgins.
He could do 'em _ex nihilo_, too.
No need for virgins at all.
So where do you think virgins come from?
Zygotes. I swear it.
I don't think there are any virgins where you come from.
I hear there's an innoculation that will cure virginity.
--Jeff
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decide nothing. The people who
count the votes decide everything.
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| User: "Kyle Mullaney" |
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| Title: Re: Feds OK'd biblical Grand Canyon book? |
19 Oct 2004 11:00:50 PM |
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What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon? The great
flood which the Bible says happened and then if you look to folk
stories every culture seems to have a story about a flood that covered
the whole earth. Maybe God is trying to tell us, that we should trust
Him. You know there is no way to rpove that other changes have not
happened that could have at one time caused quicker erosion.
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| User: "Eric da Red" |
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20 Oct 2004 02:22:35 PM |
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In article <1584bf61.0410192000.22438a8b@posting.google.com>,
Kyle Mullaney <kyle.mullaney@gmail.com> wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon?
A lot of water combined with Acme Instant Grand Canyon Mix.
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| User: "mimus" |
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20 Oct 2004 03:07:08 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC), (Eric
da Red) wrote:
In article <1584bf61.0410192000.22438a8b@posting.google.com>,
Kyle Mullaney <kyle.mullaney@gmail.com> wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon?
A lot of water combined with Acme Instant Grand Canyon Mix.
A lot of trouble to go to just for something to fall off of.
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tinmimus99@hotmail.com
We feel America went off the track politically
sometime in August of 1776.
< _After Things Fell Apart_
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| User: "abu ishrak" |
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19 Oct 2004 11:50:00 PM |
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Kyle Mullaney wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon?
Meltwaters from at least four periods of extensive glaciation covering
the Rockies.
The periods are called Gunz, Mindel, Riss and Wurm. Also known as "Ice
Ages".
"In North America, the Pleistocene glaciers began their formation in the
higher altitudes of the Rocky Mountains, and high latitude locations in
Greenland and north-central Canada.
From these locations, the ice spread in all directions following the
topography of the landscape. In North America, the glaciers from the
Rocky Mountains and north-central Canada met each other in the center of
the continent creating an ice sheet that stretched from the Pacific to
the Atlantic ocean.
At their greatest extent, the ice sheets of North America covered most
of Canada and extended into the United States to a latitude of about 40°
N. [New York City]"
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/10ad.html
The great
flood which the Bible says happened and then if you look to folk
stories every culture seems to have a story about a flood that covered
the whole earth. Maybe God is trying to tell us, that we should trust
Him.
trust him to drown us periodically? couldn't we just get a "time out"?
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1192.htm
shinerman
You know there is no way to rpove that other changes have not
happened that could have at one time caused quicker erosion.
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| User: "mimus" |
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19 Oct 2004 11:42:52 PM |
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On 19 Oct 2004 21:00:50 -0700, (Kyle Mullaney)
wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon? The great
flood which the Bible says happened
Mesopotamian culture, from which it was plagiarized (and it doesn't
even make sense in a monotheistic context), in "The Land between the
Rivers", had a Flood epic or myth.
Imagine that.
and then if you look to folk
stories every culture seems to have a story about a flood that covered
the whole earth.
How could they ever have thought of such things?
Maybe God is trying to tell us, that we should trust
Him. You know there is no way to rpove that other changes have not
happened that could have at one time caused quicker erosion.
First reflection begs a rather fundamental question, second point
shifts the burden of proof from the asserter of the once existence of
such "other changes" to everybody else . . . .
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We feel America went off the track politically
sometime in August of 1776.
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| User: "towelie" |
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20 Oct 2004 02:43:54 AM |
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TV's Kyle Mullaney wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon? The great
flood which the Bible says happened and then if you look to folk
stories every culture seems to have a story about a flood that covered
the whole earth. Maybe God is trying to tell us, that we should trust
Him. You know there is no way to rpove that other changes have not
happened that could have at one time caused quicker erosion.
You also cannot prove that I can't fly and shoot laser beams out of my eyes.
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| User: "Kyle Mullaney" |
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20 Oct 2004 11:30:30 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2tmj9nF20psi2U1@uni-berlin.de>...
TV's Kyle Mullaney wrote:
What catclismic event could have caused the Grand Canyon? The great
flood which the Bible says happened and then if you look to folk
stories every culture seems to have a story about a flood that covered
the whole earth. Maybe God is trying to tell us, that we should trust
Him. You know there is no way to rpove that other changes have not
happened that could have at one time caused quicker erosion.
You also cannot prove that I can't fly and shoot laser beams out of my eyes.
I agree, that is my point, YOU cannot prove that you can, you can
only, as current science does, opperate on theory. In this matter as
with carbon dating we rely on theories developed to disprove another
way. The science is not directed in a manner that would confirm what
is true and we know to be true.
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| User: "abu ishrak" |
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19 Oct 2004 11:21:44 PM |
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towelie wrote:
TV's mimus wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:46 -0600, "Anti-Multiculty"
Antimulticulture@hotmaiil.com wrote:
Says the guy who uses flawed methods like Carbon-dating to come to
irreconcilable conclusions about the age of the earth
Flawed compared to what? the Bible?
From the moment Lyell began his measurements of the rates of
geological processes such as river- cut deepening (eg, like in the
Grand Canyon), delta elongation and so on, the Biblical "account" of
"the Creation" has been dead in the water.
Of course, the Bible overrules all those measurements made from
Lyell's time to the present, doesn't it?
They're all "flawed", right? like radioisotope dating and genetic
drift analysis, right? compared to the Bible, right?
If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters claim it
is, there would have been big changes within the last 100 years. Features
of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago would be noticibly
different
than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the Bible is
wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic geology.
G-d created geology as a test of faith. It's all a trick to make the
faithless believe the Earth is 4.5 billion years old.
Thank G-d for the Republican Congress!
Perhaps this will help: http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/cmon3.html
("fossil remains" of human soft tissues found in Carboniferous strata)
"And they say sarcasm doesn't work on the net!"
shnerman
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| User: "towelie" |
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20 Oct 2004 02:44:36 AM |
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TV's abu ishrak wrote:
towelie wrote:
TV's mimus wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:46 -0600, "Anti-Multiculty"
Antimulticulture@hotmaiil.com wrote:
Says the guy who uses flawed methods like Carbon-dating to come to
irreconcilable conclusions about the age of the earth
Flawed compared to what? the Bible?
From the moment Lyell began his measurements of the rates of
geological processes such as river- cut deepening (eg, like in the
Grand Canyon), delta elongation and so on, the Biblical "account" of
"the Creation" has been dead in the water.
Of course, the Bible overrules all those measurements made from
Lyell's time to the present, doesn't it?
They're all "flawed", right? like radioisotope dating and genetic
drift analysis, right? compared to the Bible, right?
If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters
claim it is, there would have been big changes within the last 100
years. Features of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago
would be noticibly different
than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the
Bible is wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic
geology.
G-d created geology as a test of faith. It's all a trick to make the
"I'll see who believes in me now. HAHAHAHAHA!"
--
If you don't like my lyrics you can press fast forward. - Jay-Z
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| User: "abu ishrak" |
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20 Oct 2004 03:53:04 AM |
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towelie wrote:
TV's abu ishrak wrote:
towelie wrote:
TV's mimus wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 Oct 2004 23:38:46 -0600, "Anti-Multiculty"
Antimulticulture@hotmaiil.com wrote:
Says the guy who uses flawed methods like Carbon-dating to come to
irreconcilable conclusions about the age of the earth
Flawed compared to what? the Bible?
From the moment Lyell began his measurements of the rates of
geological processes such as river- cut deepening (eg, like in the
Grand Canyon), delta elongation and so on, the Biblical "account" of
"the Creation" has been dead in the water.
Of course, the Bible overrules all those measurements made from
Lyell's time to the present, doesn't it?
They're all "flawed", right? like radioisotope dating and genetic
drift analysis, right? compared to the Bible, right?
If the Canyon were truly 6000 years old or however old the bleaters
claim it is, there would have been big changes within the last 100
years. Features of the canyon in photographs taken 100 years ago
would be noticibly different
than the same places today. This hasn't happened, which proves the
Bible is wrong to anybody intelligent enough to understand basic
geology.
G-d created geology as a test of faith. It's all a trick to make the
"I'll see who believes in me now. HAHAHAHAHA!"
Didja go to Conrad's site? The "fossilized embryos" are pretty good!
Check his deja archive, its a hoot.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22ed+conrad%22&btnG=Search&meta=
shiner
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