Religions > Atheism > Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government."
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22 Sep 2007 07:35:34 AM |
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Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 02:22:27 PM |
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"uri" <danny99@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
But you're previously stated that your personal philosophy is based on a
Smurf cartoon so ignoring you is remarkably easy....
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 02:33:16 PM |
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On 22 sep, 21:22, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
"uri" <dann...@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:1190464534.876743.10580@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
But you're previously stated that your personal philosophy is based on a
Smurf cartoon so ignoring you is remarkably easy....
How on earth can you ignore a Smurf Cartoon?
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
23 Sep 2007 02:04:18 PM |
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<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
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On 22 sep, 21:22, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
"uri" <dann...@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:1190464534.876743.10580@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
But you're previously stated that your personal philosophy is based on a
Smurf cartoon so ignoring you is remarkably easy....
How on earth can you ignore a Smurf Cartoon?
The Justice League rules.
Smurfs are *****-popping *****-knitters.
Death to Smurfs!
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| User: "uri" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 03:45:07 PM |
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On Sep 22, 9:22 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
But you're previously stated that your personal philosophy is based on a
Smurf cartoon so ignoring you is remarkably easy....
No i just said that rights are given by society, not by God because
there is no evidence God exists. Also nature doesn't care about our
rights and is a very cruel place.
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| User: "Bert Byfield" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 09:22:34 AM |
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Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
How do you know? Did God tell you that?
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| User: "Savageduck" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 04:18:57 PM |
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On 2007-09-22 07:22:34 -0700, Bert Byfield <BertByfield@nospam.not> said:
Our basic rights come from society, not from God. God doesn't exist.
How do you know? Did God tell you that?
Didn't you get the response. god doesn't exist, therefore the
non-existant entity couldn't have told anybody anything.
Just as god(s) is/are man made, so are basic rights.
Check history and you will find that seperate from religion various
societies made some compromises and agreements on the individual's
standing in that society. Without that establishment of basic
rights/rules/laws/etc. the society fails no matter how powerful and
omnicient its god(s) might be. Your first references might be to the
Greeks and then the Romans, each societies governed on democratic and
republican princlples, establishing basic rights to all their citizens,
but unfortunately tied to a faith in gods and religion and doomed.
Our salvation lies in our rights having a foundation free from
religion. If we allow religious zealots and political power mongers to
control our government, we will be condemned to loose what rights we
have (we already have a corrosion of the rights we value) and our
little empire will join those others, to be read about in the history
books.
É and god will have had nothing to do with any of it.
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ð ¹ 4 ·Æ
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| User: "uri" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 09:52:53 AM |
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On Sep 22, 4:22 pm, Bert Byfield <BertByfi...@nospam.not> wrote:
How do you know? Did God tell you that?
I don't know but there is no evidence God exists. The physical
evidence points out that the universe is controlled by particles,
fields and the forces between them.
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| User: "uri" |
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| Title: Re: Fred: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." |
22 Sep 2007 09:55:13 AM |
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On Sep 22, 4:22 pm, Bert Byfield <BertByfi...@nospam.not> wrote:
How do you know? Did God tell you that?
I don't know but there is no evidence God exists. The physical
evidence points out that the universe is controlled by particles,
fields and the forces between them. That's from a physicalistic and
naturalistic point of view.
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