"Ralph Jones" <ralph295@attbi.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:38:12 GMT, "Kingfish"
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"Ken Smith" <Ranger57@concentric.net> wrote in message
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: Kingfish wrote:
:
: > "Richard" <anom@anom> wrote in message
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: > : Kingfish wrote:>>
: > : > "Jiggs McManus" <anon@cheshire.dyndns.dk> wrote in message
: > : > news:JMF3G6C737846.8662962963@anonymous.poster...
: > : > : (They attempt to desTroy freedom, the ACLU patches things up.)
: > : > :
: > : > : DENVER -- The American Civil Liberties Union filed a federal
lawsuit
: > : > : Tuesday seeking to throw out a new Colorado law requiring
teachers and
: > : > : students to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
: > :
: > : > glad to see they aren't wasting their time with the HSA or PATRIOT
acts
: > : > and they are doing something SO meaningfull such as this.
: > :
: > : > boy, they must feel great at the end of the day.
: > :
: > : > what a waste of time and hot air.
: > :
: > : Are we missing something here? Seems to me like an entire state
government
: > : has forgotten that such a mandate across the board is already
: > : unconstitutioal. A certain person [madelaine o'hara]
: >
: > good heavens. If there is a hell, she might be in charge.
: >
: > what we have here is a guideline - because there is no penalty for not
: > saying the pledge. You can opt out because:
: > 1. ya don't believe in it/personal reasons
: > 2. you aren't a citizen
: > 3. religeous objections
: >
: > who woulden't that cover?
:
: Children who don't have the courage to stand for their convictions --
: which, given the inexorable hand of peer pressure, are many.
oh no! Parents can stand up for them as well - ie "I don't want my child to
participate. We object for ideological reasons."
:
: > This "law" is ideological - in that in school we teach that this country
is
: > something we should stand behind.
:
: Fine. Get rid of the "under God" part -- iow, restore the Pledge to the
: original formulation -- and the State's legitimate objectives should be
met.
Children can skip that line or skip the entire thing. YOU would force YOUR
lack of belief on others.
Yeah, right...like when I was in school and Jews weren't forced to say
the Lord's Prayer.
Uhhh. And the Lord's Prayer would offend a Jew exactly how?
They jhad the option of standing respectfully with
their mouths shut while kids stared at them.
Fact is, and the Constitution mandates, that they had
no obligation to respect any of your superstitious *****,
nor were they require to remain silent, they could have begun
chanting in ancient Hebrew if they liked.
rj
--
"This would be the best of all possible worlds,
if there were no religions in it."
- John Adams
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