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Religions > Atheism |
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"Sincere" |
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02 Sep 2004 10:21:36 AM |
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Re: God and Satan are the same person. |
"Andrew W \(Paranormal Agnostic\)" <nospaam_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:<412908f7$0$6809$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
God and Satan are the same person.
Q. Why did God allow Satan into the Garden of Eden which was supposed to be
a pure, perfect and safe paradise?
Q. Why does God deceive and tempt people just like Satan as given in
2Thessalonians 2:11 - "And for this cause God shall send them strong
delusion, that they should believe a lie." ?
Answer:
To open the world of test for human beings and differentiate the ones
who are diamond likes from those who are coal likes even though both
of them are created from carbon, and let them testify themselves that
they are as such by allowing them to live in the world by using their
free-will.
Those people who submit their will to the will of Allah (Al-Ilah in
Arabic: The God in English) and listen to the commandments of Allah by
using their free will are the diamond likes.
Those people who do not submit their will to the will of Allah and do
not listen to the commandments of Allah by using their free will are
the coal likes.
As in an exam there are questions to answer, there is Satan created by
Allah for the test of human beings. If you work hard and properly for
the exam, you are likely to get a good grade and pass the exam.
If all the answers are given before the exam, all the students would
pass the exam without any differentiation of those who studied hard
and those who did not studied at all, and there would be an injustice
against those who studied hard for the exam. All the student would
fall under the same category. But, when the answers are not given
those who studied hard would show themselves up as against those who
did not studied at all.
Allah has willed to put those people who believed in Himself (Allah
has no gender, but usage in the language is preferred as such) and
strived their best to submit their wills to His Will and listen to His
Commandments into His Heaven, and the opposite into His Hell. (There
is no free lunch :) )
Allah is able to create such creatures who has free will (Human beings
and Jinn) as well as such creatures who has not free will (Angels).
Angels obeys the commandments of Allah without any objection becasue
they do not have a free will, but human beings are left free to some
extent may be 1% to do what they want to do. Yes, 1% because even
human beings are not left totaly free in their actions; One is free to
choose what to eat (allowed or forbidden by Allah) but once one eats
what one choses, the rest is handled by the system Allah has created
such that one has almost no control; in the eating action only
choosing action which is may be less than 1% in the overall wonderfull
process is free.
Can a person not sleep as he wishes for months?
Can a person not drink as he wishes for months?
Can a person not eat as he wishes for months?
Can a person not go to WC as he wishes for months?
When the sleep overcomes one should sleep, when the one gets thursty
one should drink, when the one gets hungry one should eat, when the
one's toilet comes one should go to WC. How much freedom? 99% or may
be more of the actions are still compulsory, submitted to the Will and
plan of Allah, only a small amount is left free which is called as
free will.
Human beings with the free will given to themselves if they choose to
believe in Allah and strive their best to listen to His Commandments
they may achieve ranks even above angels as angels' ranks are fixed
since they do not have free will and obey the commandments of Allah
without any objection.
On the other hand, if the human beings with the free will given to
themselves if they choose not to believe in Allah and do not listen to
His Commandments they may achieve ranks even worse than animals.
Since animals do not have mind to think, they enjoy the life given to
them by Allah with no worry of future and with no sarrow of the past.
But if human beings do not choose to belive in Allah and to listen to
His Commandments they have too much worry of future and too much
sorrow of the past; so much so that their mind can not bear the burden
of those worries and sarrows, they start to look for the ways to
cancel the mind temporarily to forget and to escape from the realities
of the life that their mind can not bear. They might try quite bit of
every thing to cancel the mind like entertainments, alcohol, drug etc.
Sometimes it might result with suicide which no animal prefers to do.
A life worse than the animals lived even in this world, what about in
the next world?
Small crimes are punished in the small courts, big crimes are punished
in the big courts. People who choose not to believe in Allah commits
big crime, even though they might live a life worse than the animals
have even in this world, their real punishment is left to the big
court, which is in the next world in the hereafter.
Q. Why would Satan voluntarily obey God by punishing and torturing his very
own allies?
Satan voluntarily disobeys God and leads those people who listens to
satan into Hell, because satan got pride as against human saying "I am
greater than human; I am created from fire and human is created from
clay!", and did not listen to the commandment of Allah to bow down to
Adam. See Qur'an's initial chapters for detailed stories.
Q. Why does God seem comfortable with the prospect of Satan getting about
80% of the human race on judgment day while God only ending up with a mere
20% or less of his greatest creations in heaven?
The test of humans is a process as sowing seeds to the ground. Not
every seed sowed grows into a tree. From 99 seeds sown under the
ground, even if one grows into a tree, it saves its race. So it can
not be said that sowing 100 seeds under the ground is a bad process.
One seed turning into a tree is equivalent almost its race. Not the
quantity, quality is important.
Q. Why does God command us to love him with all our hearts, minds etc. when
everyone knows that true love can only be given naturally and voluntarily
and must be earned?
Everything we have is provided for us by Allah. So, why should not We
love Allah? The things we spent our love in this world is given by
Allah. If Allah did not give those things what would we love? We see
a shinning droplet, we love it so much so that when it disappers we
drown into sarrow. But if we know that that shinning particle is
shinning because of the sun in the sky we would give our love to the
sun. Then it doesn't matter whether one droplet stops shinning; as
long as the source is there, it would make either the same droplet or
other droplets shine. And the sun is a shinning droplet which it gets
its shinning from Allah, the real source of the Light. Why should we
direct our love to the third parties, while there is the first party?
Q. Why does God condone, encourage and even command killing, rape, slavery,
war and the forceful taking of other people's lands and properties?
Allah does not command such thing unless the believers are subjected
to such conditions by others.
There is no loss in believing in Allah.
There is no benefit in not believing in Him.
Besides;
There is a great benefit in believing in Allah.
There is a great loss in not believing in Him.
This wordly life is like of a blinking of an eye.
Good news to those who believe in Allah and live a humanly life.
What a pity to those who do not believe in Allah.
Greetings.
S.M.
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| User: "Sincere" |
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| Title: Re: God and Satan are the same person. |
03 Sep 2004 11:45:03 AM |
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Q. Why does God condone, encourage and even command killing, rape, slavery,
war and the forceful taking of other people's lands and properties?
Allah does not command such thing unless the believers are subjected
to such conditions by others.
I should point out that God does not condone, encourage, or command
rape at no where.
There is no loss in believing in Allah.
There is no benefit in not believing in Him.
Besides;
There is a great benefit in believing in Allah.
There is a great loss in not believing in Him.
This wordly life is like of a blinking of an eye.
Good news to those who believe in Allah and live a humanly life.
What a pity to those who do not believe in Allah.
Greetings.
S.M.
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