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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "WooOOoo。。lf"
Date: 22 Oct 2004 12:17:31 PM
Object: Re: God doesn't exist - proof
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> 撰寫於郵件
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to

be

as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]

The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge looks more like a symbol of mankind's
Acquisition of the Ability to Distinguish / Discriminate.
Before eating the fruit = mankind didn't have such Ability.
After eating the fruit = mankind have acquired such Ability.
That corresponds with what God says in verse 2:22:
"Now the man has become like one of us and has knowledge of what is good and
what is bad. He must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree of life."
Knowing what is good and what is bad connotes the Ability to discriminate,
therefore, the man was not able to tell the difference between nakedness and
unnakedness, between good and bad, before they ate the fruit, which would
equip them with such Ability.
Therefore, mankind became mortal because of their Aquisition of such Ability
which was inadmissible to God. It has nothing to do with Disobedience to
God or knowing what is EVIL after eating the fruit.
Mankind will be able to regain immortality from God if they know how to
return to the Mental STATE before eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
In this case, I don't see any significance of the need of salvation by God.
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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: God doesn't exist - proof 22 Oct 2004 09:24:08 PM
"WooOOoo。。lf" <paa19437@anet.net.tw> wrote in message
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"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> 撰寫於郵件
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the

tree?

Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]


The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge looks more like a symbol of mankind's
Acquisition of the Ability to Distinguish / Discriminate.
Before eating the fruit = mankind didn't have such Ability.
After eating the fruit = mankind have acquired such Ability.
That corresponds with what God says in verse 2:22:
"Now the man has become like one of us and has knowledge of what is good

and

what is bad. He must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree of life."
Knowing what is good and what is bad connotes the Ability to discriminate,
therefore, the man was not able to tell the difference between nakedness

and

unnakedness, between good and bad, before they ate the fruit, which would
equip them with such Ability.
Therefore, mankind became mortal because of their Aquisition of such

Ability

which was inadmissible to God. It has nothing to do with Disobedience to
God or knowing what is EVIL after eating the fruit.
Mankind will be able to regain immortality from God if they know how to
return to the Mental STATE before eating the fruit of the tree of

knowledge.

In this case, I don't see any significance of the need of salvation by

God.


The bunch of you are thrashing a straw man of your own making, for
nowhere does the Bible say anything about a fruit from the "tree of
knowledge". The Lord says: " Now come ye and let us reason together", as
well as "Study to show yourself approved", and "My people go to perdition
for lack of knowledge" etc. etc. There are numerous other passages
encouraging the acquisition of knowledge.
What the Bible is talking about is the fruit (or results) from eating of
the fruit of the knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL". Meaning, becoming opinionated
and judgmental. See below Biblical passage.
Pastor Frank
Gen 3:22-23 And the Lord God said: Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good from evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also
from the tree of life, and eat and live for ever, I will drive out the man
from the garden of Eden, to till the land from which he was taken.
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: God doesn't exist - proof 25 Oct 2004 11:49:47 AM
Pastor Frank wrote:

"WooOOoo。。lf" <paa19437@anet.net.tw> wrote in message
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"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> 撰寫鄴郵件
news:Xns95877F1DDD9E4vicman@127.0.0.1...


The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the

tree?

Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]


The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge looks more like a symbol of mankind's
Acquisition of the Ability to Distinguish / Discriminate.
Before eating the fruit = mankind didn't have such Ability.
After eating the fruit = mankind have acquired such Ability.
That corresponds with what God says in verse 2:22:
"Now the man has become like one of us and has knowledge of what is good

and

what is bad. He must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree of life."
Knowing what is good and what is bad connotes the Ability to discriminate,
therefore, the man was not able to tell the difference between nakedness

and

unnakedness, between good and bad, before they ate the fruit, which would
equip them with such Ability.
Therefore, mankind became mortal because of their Aquisition of such

Ability

which was inadmissible to God. It has nothing to do with Disobedience to
God or knowing what is EVIL after eating the fruit.
Mankind will be able to regain immortality from God if they know how to
return to the Mental STATE before eating the fruit of the tree of

knowledge.

In this case, I don't see any significance of the need of salvation by

God.


The bunch of you are thrashing a straw man of your own making, for
nowhere does the Bible say anything about a fruit from the "tree of
knowledge". The Lord says: " Now come ye and let us reason together", as
well as "Study to show yourself approved", and "My people go to perdition
for lack of knowledge" etc. etc. There are numerous other passages
encouraging the acquisition of knowledge.
What the Bible is talking about is the fruit (or results) from eating of
the fruit of the knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL".

===>Lying again, Sheepherder Frank.
There is NOTHING in the Bible about "the fruit (or results) from eating of
the fruit". You are SO DISHONEST! -- L.
.



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