Re: God in Constitution? #3
buckeyeelo
--- In HRSepCnS@yahoogroups.com, "HumanC wrote:
Published in the November 20 Charleston Post and Courier
http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=53077§ion=faithvalues
Faith & Values
Sunday, November 20, 2005 - Last Updated: 8:14 AM
[ http://www.charleston.net/stories/default_pf.aspx?newsID=53077 ]
SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2005 12:00 AM
Writer maintains there's no 'God' in Constitution
Johnson then turned to Article 1, Section 7, Clause 2 of the
Constitution, which allows the president an extra day to return a bill
if the 10th day falls on a Sunday. He then hypothesized that the
founders added this exception because they meant for Sunday to be a
day of worship. He even contended that a case could thus be made that
the Constitution is a Christian document.
In 1787, as now, Sunday was considered a day of rest. People were
free to worship, rest or work. True, there were and are a large
percentage of Christians in this country. An employer today who is an
atheist may schedule Sundays off or excuse employees from working on
their religious holidays.
I fogot to add before
Congress actually met and conducted business on Sunday at times
For unstance
* Madison's vetoes: Some of The First Official Meanings Assigned
to The Establishment Clause (1811)
http://candst.tripod.com/madvetos.htm
March 3, 1811 (SENATE)
[It has to be noted that March 3, 1811, was a Sunday. Therefore,
it has to be noted that Congress has at times in our nations history
met in session on Sundays, the Christian Sabbath.]
A message from the House of Representatives informed the Senate
that the House have passed the bill, sent from the Senate entitled "An
act for the relief of Richard Tervin, William Coleman, Edwin Lewis,
Samuel Mims, Joseph Wilson;" with an amendment in which they desire
the concurrence of the Senate.
The Senate proceeded to consider the amendment of the House of
Representatives to the bill entitled, "An Act for the relief of
Richard Tervin, William Coleman, Edwin Lewis, Samuel Mims, Joseph
Wilson," and concurred therein.
Source of Information:
The Debates and Proceedings of the Congress of the United States with
an Appendix containing Important State papers and The Public
Documents, and all The Laws of a Public Nature; with a Copious Index.
Eleventh Congress - Third Session. Comprising the Period from December
3, 1810 to March 3, 1811, Inclusive. Compiled from Authentic
Materials. Washington: Printed and published by Gales and Seaton,
(1853) p 367.
For those who maintain we are a Christian country, I refer them to
another document: Article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, which
states, "As the Government of the United States is not in any sense
founded on the Christian religion ..." This document was endorsed by
Secretary of State Timothy Pickering and President John Adams and
ratified unanimously by the Senate. It was the 339th time a recorded
vote had been required by the Senate, but only the third unanimous
vote in the Senate's history.
* Treaty of Tripoli, 1796: Little-Known U.S. Document Signed by
President Adams Proclaims America's Government Is Secular
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tripoli1.htm
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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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