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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Martin Willett" |
| Date: |
27 Jan 2007 01:26:37 PM |
| Object: |
Re: God is a Drug |
Eric Brze wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:10:08 -0800, Michael Rippie
<michael@thelastchurch.org> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:15:19 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
If you want to know the spirit that is God you must first know
yourself.
That's strange. To follow Christ, one has to give up oneself. What is
there to know besides the spirit of God?
You can not know the spirit that is God until you know your own
spirit. To follow Christ is not giving up yourself. Christ says,
"When you can make two into one you have entered my domain.
Where did you get that? I know Christ said one can not serve two
masters. I never heard anything about making two into one. As far as I
know, there is only one who is the Lord in my heart, there is no
other. That is why I have to give up my sinful self in order to follow
the Lord.
He pulled it out of his arse. It is what Rippie does. He steals stuff
other people have written and passes it off as his own, he invents
quotations from Jesus and he distorts your words in replies - often
months after the original post.
That phrase only occurs once in the whole world wide web:
http://www.thelastchurch.org/OTL.html
On newsgroups it occurs many times, as people quote and pull apart posts
made by its author, Michael Edward Rippie.
I have found only one other person use that phrase, David LaChapelle,
who was briefly under Rippie's spell, to the extent of using the same
signature "In the Mind of Christ" and much of the same erratically
spiritual but anti-establishment theology.
While David LaChapelle makes grammatical and spelling errors he makes
far too few to be considered Michael Rippie posting under another name.
However it is crystal clear that there is no other source for this
"quotation" than the imagination of that shameless liar Michael Rippie.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.baptist/msg/205774eaf38506a6?dmode=source
Ah. Apologies. At least partial apologies. He didn't simply make it up,
he paraphrased it or misquoted it from a non-canonical gospel, the
Gospel of Thomas. However he did not ever quote that as his source.
22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These
nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."
They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make
the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper
like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so
that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make
eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a
foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
alternative translation:
22 Jesus saw some babies nursing.
2
He said to his disciples, "These nursing
babies are like those who enter the (Father's) domain."
3
They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) domain as babies?"
4
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make
the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper
like the
lower,
5
and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the
male will not be male nor the female be female,
6
when you make eyes in
place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot,
an image
in place of an image,
7
then you will enter [the (Father's) domain]."
--
Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: God is a Drug |
27 Jan 2007 03:00:32 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:26:37 +0000, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Eric Brze wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:10:08 -0800, Michael Rippie
<michael@thelastchurch.org> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:15:19 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
If you want to know the spirit that is God you must first know
yourself.
That's strange. To follow Christ, one has to give up oneself. What is
there to know besides the spirit of God?
You can not know the spirit that is God until you know your own
spirit. To follow Christ is not giving up yourself. Christ says,
"When you can make two into one you have entered my domain.
Where did you get that? I know Christ said one can not serve two
masters. I never heard anything about making two into one. As far as I
know, there is only one who is the Lord in my heart, there is no
other. That is why I have to give up my sinful self in order to follow
the Lord.
He pulled it out of his arse. It is what Rippie does. He steals stuff
other people have written and passes it off as his own, he invents
quotations from Jesus and he distorts your words in replies - often
months after the original post.
That phrase only occurs once in the whole world wide web:
http://www.thelastchurch.org/OTL.html
On newsgroups it occurs many times, as people quote and pull apart posts
made by its author, Michael Edward Rippie.
I have found only one other person use that phrase, David LaChapelle,
who was briefly under Rippie's spell, to the extent of using the same
signature "In the Mind of Christ" and much of the same erratically
spiritual but anti-establishment theology.
While David LaChapelle makes grammatical and spelling errors he makes
far too few to be considered Michael Rippie posting under another name.
However it is crystal clear that there is no other source for this
"quotation" than the imagination of that shameless liar Michael Rippie.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.baptist/msg/205774eaf38506a6?dmode=source
Ah. Apologies. At least partial apologies. He didn't simply make it up,
he paraphrased it or misquoted it from a non-canonical gospel, the
Gospel of Thomas. However he did not ever quote that as his source.
Thank you for the pointer. Obviously, Michael has misunderstood what
Jesus meant.
22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These
nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."
They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make
the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper
like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so
that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make
eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a
foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
alternative translation:
22 Jesus saw some babies nursing.
2
He said to his disciples, "These nursing
babies are like those who enter the (Father's) domain."
3
They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) domain as babies?"
4
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make
the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper
like the
lower,
5
and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the
male will not be male nor the female be female,
6
when you make eyes in
place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot,
an image
in place of an image,
7
then you will enter [the (Father's) domain]."
.
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