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11 Aug 2003 11:39:09 AM |
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Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
On 10 Aug 2003 17:15:32 -0700, (Truth Hunter)
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truth hunter is back, truth hunter is back, yeaaaaaaaaah, and as void
of knowledge of God as he has always been.
How you doing, you old aussie muslim, you? Been a while since I last
embarrassed you.
God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE !
Read your Bible!
Where - I never saw any such thing.
Does this make sense:
God takes his only son and lets him be crucified meaning to be killed
on the cross because of Adam and Eve eat one rotten APPLE?
No, no, th. God didn't let his son be crucified for an apple.
The real term is that God himself became man specifically to offer
redemption to mankind for his human nature, the flaw in all of us, to
sin. That sin was "to say no to God". The apple was only the
mechanism God used to explain our sin to us.
But remember, the real sin was saying "no" to God
Jesus's death doesn't change that. I'm still a moral agent who should
accept personal responsibility for my actions.
What God did for us was to cleanse us of the stain of original sin on
our soul, only.
We still need to personally address our own personal actual sin.
Better luck next time, th.
duke, American-American
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14 Aug 2003 01:47:02 PM |
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On 13 Aug 2003 14:23:58 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
The real term is that God himself became man specifically to offer
redemption to mankind for his human nature, the flaw in all of us, to
sin. That sin was "to say no to God". The apple was only the
mechanism God used to explain our sin to us.
The apple was God's Bait.
Oh nooooooooo, A&E well knew what they were not to do, and God knew
that A&E well knew what they were to avoid doing.
But remember, the real sin was saying "no" to God
You have free will, but god will torture you for eternity if you
excercise it.
And if you use it to reject and deny God, what else do you expect.
What God did for us was to cleanse us of the stain of original sin on
our soul, only.
So god gave two people free will, then decided to punish every single
one of their descendants (who had no part in that "original sin") for
the rest of time for their parents' "sin" of increasing their
knowledge by excercising that free will, decided that the only way to
repay himself (unless someone else was owed the debt?) for that sin
and thus get people out from under the threat of eternal torture was
by pretending to kill himself (rather than just saying, oh, "You're
all forgiven"), but continues to insists on eternal punishment for
anyone still uppity enough to excercise their free will.
Oh noooooooo. Firstly, to remove that "original sin" from our soul is
oh soooooooooo easy. Baptism.
After that, we have our own tree to avoid. That's called actual sin
on our part if we fail. You understand of course, sorta like our own
little version of original sin, but not.
Of course, you don't see any problem with all that.
We still need to personally address our own personal actual sin.
Great. Leave us to it.
I do. I can't help you there.
duke, American-American
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The existance of God makes perfectly good
sense based on the evidence at hand.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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13 Aug 2003 10:57:31 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:39:09 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 10 Aug 2003 17:15:32 -0700, (Truth Hunter)
wrote:
truth hunter is back, truth hunter is back, yeaaaaaaaaah, and as void
of knowledge of God as he has always been.
We are all void of God knowledge.
How you doing, you old aussie muslim, you? Been a while since I last
embarrassed you.
You've been too busy embarrassing yourself.
God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE !
Read your Bible!
Where - I never saw any such thing.
Does this make sense:
God takes his only son and lets him be crucified meaning to be killed
on the cross because of Adam and Eve eat one rotten APPLE?
No, no, th. God didn't let his son be crucified for an apple.
The real term is that God himself became man specifically to offer
redemption to mankind for his human nature, the flaw in all of us, to
sin.
I don't understand that part. God creates us with all our foibles then
complains when we turn out just the way he knew we would.
Then, rather than changing his design for the better so that we would
all be always happy and healthy, God chooses to enact a stupid ritual
that helps no one.
That sin was "to say no to God". The apple was only the
mechanism God used to explain our sin to us.
Sure, God could have chosen not to make us sinners, or at least given
us all the required info in an unambiguous way, but no, he decides to
be vague.
But remember, the real sin was saying "no" to God
Well, I can see how acting the way God made us would give God cause
to want to downgrade us and cause us so much suffering.
Jesus's death doesn't change that. I'm still a moral agent who should
accept personal responsibility for my actions.
What God did for us was to cleanse us of the stain of original sin on
our soul, only.
Why did God feel the need to appease himself with a ritual?
Do you feel the ritual was better than God doing something practical to
help us?
We still need to personally address our own personal actual sin.
Heaven forbid that God would ever do anything to correct his errors to give
us all a good life.
Better luck next time, th.
Do you think God will try again?
God has failed at everything he has tried so far.
duke, American-American
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13 Aug 2003 11:34:28 PM |
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"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote
I don't understand that part. God creates us with all our foibles then
complains when we turn out just the way he knew we would.
Then, rather than changing his design for the better so that we would
all be always happy and healthy, God chooses to enact a stupid ritual
that helps no one.
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
BAM
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14 Aug 2003 07:46:25 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:34:28 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
BAM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ spoken like a well-brainwashed Roman
Catholic.............
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| User: "bam" |
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14 Aug 2003 09:21:57 AM |
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"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
news:c41njvs0lil0pirm1ig8k32gmnmv1724ur@1docnet...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:34:28 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
BAM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ spoken like a well-brainwashed Roman
Catholic.............
Quiet, abortionist.
BAM
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14 Aug 2003 01:52:19 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:21:57 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
news:c41njvs0lil0pirm1ig8k32gmnmv1724ur@1docnet...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:34:28 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little
old
news 'froups:
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
BAM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ spoken like a well-brainwashed Roman
Catholic.............
Quiet, abortionist.
BAM
1. I will not be quiet.
2. I am not an abortionist.
3. Name one abortion I ever performed.
4. Go back to your little RC denomination's group.
5. stop toutin romish false teachings in the BAPTIST group
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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14 Aug 2003 09:40:26 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:34:28 -0400, "bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote
I don't understand that part. God creates us with all our foibles then
complains when we turn out just the way he knew we would.
Then, rather than changing his design for the better so that we would
all be always happy and healthy, God chooses to enact a stupid ritual
that helps no one.
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
That worked for Hitler, and all the other dictators.
BAM
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| User: "Charles P" |
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14 Aug 2003 09:07:59 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
That worked for Hitler, and all the other dictators.
BAM
Sure did. So make it work for God.
Unfortunately, we really have no objective evidence at all about
God, so it's not really possible to obey Him. Hitler, on the other
hand, was an objective reality, there are many persons alive today
that saw him in person, and experienced the effects his commands.
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14 Aug 2003 11:03:26 PM |
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"Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com> wrote
Unfortunately, we really have no objective evidence at all about
God, so it's not really possible to obey Him.
Man, you've got a tricky mind. It's a matter of choice. If I wanted to
disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective evidence that George
Washington ever lived, and therefore the Consitution is probably a hoax.
BAM
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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15 Aug 2003 05:31:01 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
If I wanted to disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective evidence
that George Washington ever lived, and therefore the Consitution is probably
a hoax.
Go ahead and try it. See what happens.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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15 Aug 2003 11:48:00 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:8mnqjv4be334b2u9aun3rmuht8s7qmu205@4ax.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
If I wanted to disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective
evidence
that George Washington ever lived, and therefore the Consitution is
probably
a hoax.
Go ahead and try it. See what happens.
I know full well what will happen. And I know what will happen if I pretend
there's no God and go about doing as I please.
BAM
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16 Aug 2003 05:42:12 AM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:8mnqjv4be334b2u9aun3rmuht8s7qmu205@4ax.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
If I wanted to disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective
evidence
that George Washington ever lived, and therefore the Consitution is
probably
a hoax.
Go ahead and try it. See what happens.
I know full well what will happen. And I know what will happen if I
pretend
there's no God and go about doing as I please.
You know BAM, as long as you obey civil law, *nothing* will happen. I know,
I've tried it! Why not have an adventure, do something different for once,
why
don't you try it? Wait, I'll take that back, something will happen, you'll
be 10%
richer - you'll get to keep your money.
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16 Aug 2003 08:07:31 AM |
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In article <pBi%a.600$mE5.245@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>, bam says...
"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:8mnqjv4be334b2u9aun3rmuht8s7qmu205@4ax.com...
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
If I wanted to disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective
evidence
that George Washington ever lived, and therefore the Consitution is
probably
a hoax.
Go ahead and try it. See what happens.
I know full well what will happen. And I know what will happen if I pretend
there's no God and go about doing as I please.
Is your belief in your god the ONLY thing that keeps you in line? Would you be
out raping and murdering if you didn't believe you'd be punished in the
afterlife?
Says a lot about you.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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16 Aug 2003 06:52:14 AM |
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bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
bam <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in alt.atheism
If I wanted to disobey the law, I'd say there's no real objective
evidence that George Washington ever lived, and therefore the
Consitution is probably a hoax.
Go ahead and try it. See what happens.
I know full well what will happen. And I know what will happen if I pretend
there's no God and go about doing as I please.
God will kill you with some lightning bolts?
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EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "†" |
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15 Aug 2003 10:12:40 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:32:13 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
Sure did. So make it work for God.
God is not a dictator.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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15 Aug 2003 10:25:39 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:12:40 -0400 in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, † († <nospam@noway.period>)
said, directing the reply to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:32:13 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
Sure did. So make it work for God.
God is not a dictator.
Well, no. He's an absolute monarch.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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15 Aug 2003 12:56:45 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:12:40 -0400, † <nospam@noway.period> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:32:13 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news 'froups:
Sure did. So make it work for God.
God is not a dictator.
When was God elected?
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As dumb as a rock?
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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18 Aug 2003 10:27:35 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:32:13 -0400, "bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote
Your duty is to obey - understanding comes later.
That worked for Hitler, and all the other dictators.
BAM
Sure did. So make it work for God.
You means God's handlers.
BAM
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| User: "duke32" |
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13 Aug 2003 02:08:49 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:57:31 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:
truth hunter is back, truth hunter is back, yeaaaaaaaaah, and as void
of knowledge of God as he has always been.
We are all void of God knowledge.
I'm not.
How you doing, you old aussie muslim, you? Been a while since I last
embarrassed you.
You've been too busy embarrassing yourself.
God and I make a great team. With god on my side, I can't lose.
I don't understand that part. God creates us with all our foibles then
complains when we turn out just the way he knew we would.
Quite wrong. He gave us everything we need to say "yes" to him or
"no" to him. Shame on those that say "no".
Then, rather than changing his design for the better so that we would
all be always happy and healthy, God chooses to enact a stupid ritual
that helps no one.
He didn't want robots.
That sin was "to say no to God". The apple was only the
mechanism God used to explain our sin to us.
Sure, God could have chosen not to make us sinners, or at least given
us all the required info in an unambiguous way, but no, he decides to
be vague.
Actually he gave me everything I needed. He didn't give you enough?
But remember, the real sin was saying "no" to God
Well, I can see how acting the way God made us would give God cause
to want to downgrade us and cause us so much suffering.
Your "no" is already tagged with full knowledge of what it means to
say "no" to God. You really should not complain. You knows the
ramifications already.
Why did God feel the need to appease himself with a ritual?
Do you feel the ritual was better than God doing something practical to
help us?
Those going thru the ritual are already on the uptown train.
We still need to personally address our own personal actual sin.
Heaven forbid that God would ever do anything to correct his errors to give
us all a good life.
He wanted us to say "yes" to him thru all the wonderful graces he
freely gave us. It takes an awful self-centered and bad person to
take the graces and then say "no" to God.
Better luck next time, th.
Do you think God will try again?
God has failed at everything he has tried so far.
Not to me.
Why do you enjoy saying "no" to God the way you do?
duke, American-American
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The existance of God makes perfectly good
sense based on the evidence at hand.
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15 Aug 2003 07:59:18 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 03:06:10 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
truth hunter is back, truth hunter is back, yeaaaaaaaaah, and as void
of knowledge of God as he has always been.
We are all void of God knowledge.
I'm not.
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have the
Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste even
an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
And why little nothings like
you, in a sea of more nothings think that the whole fucking universe was
created "JUST FOR US".
Never said that. I fully expect other life in the universe,
answerable to the same God almighty.
As another
ignorant individual happened to say in this thread - "Your duty is not to
understand, it is to obey." What an idiotic, asinine load of horse *****. And
the sad thing is Duke, he isn't talking about god, though he thinks he is.
How would you know?
He is talking about his own catholic dogma. Let's obey the catholic god, the
catholic pope, and we can molest as many children as we like. We can control
female sexuality all we want. We can have women dying in the streets because
we will de-legalize abortion, and we'll have even more women trying to raise
even more children because we won't allow them to use birth control.
The CC isn't doing that. The CC says that God says it's a no-no.
Consequently we'll have more poverty, more crime, more disease, and more
unhappy people.
But less butchered unborn.
How arrogant can humanity get?
You're setting a good standard.
duke, American-American
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The existance of God makes perfectly good
sense based on the evidence at hand.
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19 Aug 2003 05:43:07 AM |
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"duke32" <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 03:06:10 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
truth hunter is back, truth hunter is back, yeaaaaaaaaah, and as void
of knowledge of God as he has always been.
We are all void of God knowledge.
I'm not.
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have
the
Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste
even
an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
No proof. Only human arrogance and desire.
And why little nothings like
you, in a sea of more nothings think that the whole fucking universe was
created "JUST FOR US".
Never said that. I fully expect other life in the universe,
answerable to the same God almighty.
That is not what I said and you know it. You think you're so important the
whole universe was created for you.
As another
ignorant individual happened to say in this thread - "Your duty is not to
understand, it is to obey." What an idiotic, asinine load of horse *****.
And
the sad thing is Duke, he isn't talking about god, though he thinks he
is.
How would you know?
Once again: Human arrogance. He has no proof, only his own desires. Such is
the case with all religious peoples. You know what god wants, needs and
thinks. Funny that nine times out of ten, god wants the exact same things
that you do.
He is talking about his own catholic dogma. Let's obey the catholic god,
the
catholic pope, and we can molest as many children as we like. We can
control
female sexuality all we want. We can have women dying in the streets
because
we will de-legalize abortion, and we'll have even more women trying to
raise
even more children because we won't allow them to use birth control.
The CC isn't doing that. The CC says that God says it's a no-no.
Same difference.
Consequently we'll have more poverty, more crime, more disease, and more
unhappy people.
But less butchered unborn.
Catholic logic at it's finest. Screwy as hell.
How arrogant can humanity get?
You're setting a good standard.
Everybody who disagrees with you does.
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Be as you are.
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19 Aug 2003 11:24:21 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:43:07 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have
the Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste
even an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
No proof. Only human arrogance and desire.
Well, if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might understand.
And why little nothings like
you, in a sea of more nothings think that the whole fucking universe was
created "JUST FOR US".
Never said that. I fully expect other life in the universe,
answerable to the same God almighty.
That is not what I said and you know it. You think you're so important the
whole universe was created for you.
I know this is over your head, but I said *all of us*, you were the
one that said "just for us".
As another
ignorant individual happened to say in this thread - "Your duty is not to
understand, it is to obey." What an idiotic, asinine load of horse *****.
And
the sad thing is Duke, he isn't talking about god, though he thinks he
is.
How would you know?
Once again: Human arrogance. He has no proof, only his own desires. Such is
the case with all religious peoples. You know what god wants, needs and
thinks. Funny that nine times out of ten, god wants the exact same things
that you do.
No, I know I'm the one being challenged, not God almighty.
You listen to that chinaman. And for what, I have no idea.
duke, American-American
*****
The existance of God makes perfectly good
sense based on the evidence at hand.
duke, circa 2003
*****
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19 Aug 2003 05:14:24 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<tfj4kvof1b9cb0hrnf62s0mqfdldkhofut@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:43:07 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have
the Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste
even an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
No proof. Only human arrogance and desire.
Well, if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might understand.
Wow. Butt ignorant and a racist to boot. You must be a lot of fun at parties.
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19 Aug 2003 05:57:52 PM |
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On 19 Aug 2003 15:14:24 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<tfj4kvof1b9cb0hrnf62s0mqfdldkhofut@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:43:07 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have
the Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste
even an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
No proof. Only human arrogance and desire.
Well, if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might understand.
Wow. Butt ignorant and a racist to boot. You must be a lot of fun at parties.
Nah, you don't understand. Julie is a buddhist.
And anytime you wish to discuss God instead of just insult others that
do, I'll be glad to accomodate you.
But bring your best game, because you don't stand much of a chance.
duke, American-American
*****
The existance of God makes perfectly good
sense based on the evidence at hand.
duke, circa 2003
*****
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| User: "JessHC" |
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19 Aug 2003 09:10:49 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<9la5kvkqeu5u2o9b7oh0ce6lmvoknucm0v@4ax.com>...
On 19 Aug 2003 15:14:24 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<tfj4kvof1b9cb0hrnf62s0mqfdldkhofut@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:43:07 GMT, "juliekale"
<me[spammenot]@juliekale.com> wrote:
What is it duke? I've got questions. I'd like to know why you would have
the Arrogance to think that the creator of this vast universe would waste
even an Eye Blink on your little insignificant life.
He knows each of us individually, and always has.
No proof. Only human arrogance and desire.
Well, if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might understand.
Wow. Butt ignorant and a racist to boot. You must be a lot of fun at parties.
Nah, you don't understand. Julie is a buddhist.
Ah, so. The term "chinaman" (or "that chinaman") is one of
endearment. First I've heard.
And anytime you wish to discuss God instead of just insult others that
do, I'll be glad to accomodate you.
I see. So when you say "if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might
understand," it's not a sneering insult of someone else's obviously
misguided religion AND questionable intelligence in one derogatory
swipe. What could I have been thinking?
I have no problem discussing god intelligently, and in fact welcome
the opportunity. So far, all you've done is preach, and gloat about
how everybody who thinks differently from you is going to hell.
But bring your best game, because you don't stand much of a chance.
Really? Why, do you possess some hidden intellectual prowess you've
cleverly kept disguised as bigotry, intolerance, and ignorance? I'm
all a'quiver with anticipation.
Snipped everything except alt.atheism.
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20 Aug 2003 12:58:18 PM |
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On 19 Aug 2003 19:10:49 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Nah, you don't understand. Julie is a buddhist.
Ah, so. The term "chinaman" (or "that chinaman") is one of
endearment. First I've heard.
And anytime you wish to discuss God instead of just insult others that
do, I'll be glad to accomodate you.
I see. So when you say "if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might
understand," it's not a sneering insult of someone else's obviously
misguided religion AND questionable intelligence in one derogatory
swipe. What could I have been thinking?
You take credit for "thinking"?
I have no problem discussing god intelligently, and in fact welcome
the opportunity. So far, all you've done is preach, and gloat about
how everybody who thinks differently from you is going to hell.
And all you've done is ***** about nothing.
But bring your best game, because you don't stand much of a chance.
Really? Why, do you possess some hidden intellectual prowess you've
cleverly kept disguised as bigotry, intolerance, and ignorance? I'm
all a'quiver with anticipation.
I love showing atheists the error of their ways.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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21 Aug 2003 04:57:29 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:58:18 GMT, duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote:
I love showing atheists the error of their ways.
When are you going to start?
duke, American-American
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
Voicemail/fax number +14136227640
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| User: "JessHC" |
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20 Aug 2003 05:06:21 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<2hd7kvsvq38a78ofm340eo4adpglpqol1b@4ax.com>...
On 19 Aug 2003 19:10:49 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Nah, you don't understand. Julie is a buddhist.
Ah, so. The term "chinaman" (or "that chinaman") is one of
endearment. First I've heard.
And anytime you wish to discuss God instead of just insult others that
do, I'll be glad to accomodate you.
I see. So when you say "if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might
understand," it's not a sneering insult of someone else's obviously
misguided religion AND questionable intelligence in one derogatory
swipe. What could I have been thinking?
You take credit for "thinking"?
Compared to you, yes I do, and I even try to respond to questions; you
should make a similar effort. "[I]f you didn't cherish a chinamen,
you might understand" isn't a sneering insult and racial slur?
I have no problem discussing god intelligently, and in fact welcome
the opportunity. So far, all you've done is preach, and gloat about
how everybody who thinks differently from you is going to hell.
And all you've done is ***** about nothing.
That's really ironic, coming from you, since you're bullshitting,
badly, about a non-existent diety.
But bring your best game, because you don't stand much of a chance.
Really? Why, do you possess some hidden intellectual prowess you've
cleverly kept disguised as bigotry, intolerance, and ignorance? I'm
all a'quiver with anticipation.
I love showing atheists the error of their ways.
Was that your best shot? Claiming you're doing something you haven't
done? Imagine my disappointment.
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| User: "duke32" |
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21 Aug 2003 07:20:11 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2003 15:06:21 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
I see. So when you say "if you didn't cherish a chinamen, you might
understand," it's not a sneering insult of someone else's obviously
misguided religion AND questionable intelligence in one derogatory
swipe. What could I have been thinking?
You take credit for "thinking"?
Compared to you, yes I do, and I even try to respond to questions; you
should make a similar effort. "[I]f you didn't cherish a chinamen,
you might understand" isn't a sneering insult and racial slur?
Why? Isn't buddha a chinaman?
I have no problem discussing god intelligently, and in fact welcome
the opportunity. So far, all you've done is preach, and gloat about
how everybody who thinks differently from you is going to hell.
And all you've done is ***** about nothing.
That's really ironic, coming from you, since you're bullshitting,
badly, about a non-existent diety.
Well, two points - 1) I never profess that one that thinks differently
from me is going to hell. I simply don't believe such a thing, and 2)
are you one of those people that believes the mythical fable that
there is no almighty God without so much as a tiny tad of evidence to
back up your beliefs?
But bring your best game, because you don't stand much of a chance.
Really? Why, do you possess some hidden intellectual prowess you've
cleverly kept disguised as bigotry, intolerance, and ignorance? I'm
all a'quiver with anticipation.
I love showing atheists the error of their ways.
Was that your best shot? Claiming you're doing something you haven't
done? Imagine my disappointment.
Oh no, just my announcement.
See #2 above for the start of my victory.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "duke32" |
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22 Aug 2003 05:38:19 PM |
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On 21 Aug 2003 15:19:18 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Compared to you, yes I do, and I even try to respond to questions; you
should make a similar effort. "[I]f you didn't cherish a chinamen,
you might understand" isn't a sneering insult and racial slur?
Why? Isn't buddha a chinaman?
Sorry, my mistake; he wasn't Chinese. From Northern India, a place called Lumbini.
You're still a racist.
Why, wasn't he a chinaman from lumbini. Do you know? Just because he
was from lumbini doesn't mean he was not a chinaman.
I love it, I love it, I love it.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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