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21 Aug 2003 08:53:30 PM |
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Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
(Truth Hunter) wrote in message news:<e164e783.0308101615.5a3d9f84@posting.google.com>...
God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE !
Well, christians believe that 1) god is all-knowing. 2) god is a
perfect designer. 3) god is a perfect planner.
Combine all three attributes above and consider the following
things...
First...according to christians, there was no earth, and no people
before 'god' created the earth and people. Therefore, people did not
exist physically exist.
If people did not physically exist, then here's big question for the
christians. The question is ... if god is a all-knowing, perfect
designer, and perfect planner, then could god possibly make a product
that does something unexpected (in god's view)? If god CAN make a
product that does something unexpected to god (such as the product has
true free-will), then it means that god is not all-knowing, and god is
not a perfect designer, and god is not a perfect planner.
If god CANNOT make a product that does something unexpected, then it
means that god is all-knowing, and god is a perfect designer, and also
a perfect planner. This means that a all-knowing, perfect designer,
and perfect planner cannot make a product with free-will. If certain
folks insist that 'god' can make a product with free-will, then
there's a fatal violation of just three of god's fundamental
attributes.
So ... relating this to the apple. If some folks reckon that god is
all-knowing, a perfect designer, and perfect planner, then it was god
that created every single event by perfect all-knowing design and
planning..including the apple, and what adam and eve were going to do
etc. Every single mechanical action for adam and eve was designed and
planned by god with perfect knowledge in advance of adam and eve's
physical creation. Given this situation, there's no way that god could
become upset, sad, or angry about his/her/it's perfectly sequenced
future events.
Kenny L.
So...if god is a all-knowing, perfect designer, and perfect planner,
then any future
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09 Sep 2003 04:38:14 PM |
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:45:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
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So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
Liar
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
I have friends everywheres.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
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09 Sep 2003 08:45:15 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<pkhslvc9mbcrtomkslvin9rdcvqdaviao3@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:45:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
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So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
Liar
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
Because duke says so.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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10 Sep 2003 10:59:05 AM |
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In article <d58e3ac.0309091745.1f5e3a9e@posting.google.com>, JessHC says...
duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<pkhslvc9mbcrtomkslvin9rdcvqdaviao3@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:45:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
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So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
Liar
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
Because duke says so.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
Do invisible playmates actually talk that much? ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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10 Sep 2003 09:48:46 AM |
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On 9 Sep 2003 18:45:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<pkhslvc9mbcrtomkslvin9rdcvqdaviao3@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:45:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
Liar
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
Because duke says so.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
They are all in his head.
-Barry
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| User: "duke32" |
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11 Sep 2003 06:50:56 AM |
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On 9 Sep 2003 18:45:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Actually, my words are heavy-sourced from the experts.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
Because duke says so.
No, because of all my friends that say so.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
Ah, the last vestige of a vain attempt to get at me. Catch me
missssssspelling a word.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
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11 Sep 2003 01:13:59 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<o3o0mvgiqndghlq5h3r8demn83j8i4b874@4ax.com>...
On 9 Sep 2003 18:45:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Actually, my words are heavy-sourced from the experts.
Really? What expert uses "out to elloquate"?
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
Because duke says so.
No, because of all my friends that say so.
So far, all we have is your word. Which has proven unreliable. If not invented.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
Ah, the last vestige of a vain attempt to get at me. Catch me
missssssspelling a word.
Or inventing them and expecting other will know what you mean.
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| User: "duke32" |
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12 Sep 2003 06:34:38 AM |
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On 11 Sep 2003 11:13:59 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Actually, my words are heavy-sourced from the experts.
Really? What expert uses "out to elloquate"?
Not my own invention (elloquate), but the truths I espouse.
So far, all we have is your word. Which has proven unreliable. If not invented.
My religious facts are beyond question by a bunch of atheists.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
Ah, the last vestige of a vain attempt to get at me. Catch me
missssssspelling a word.
Or inventing them and expecting other will know what you mean.
Hahahahahaha.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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12 Sep 2003 02:31:49 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<tib3mvgr16vg34smm406usj24cvr25s7fn@4ax.com>...
On 11 Sep 2003 11:13:59 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
Like so many other things you say.
Actually, my words are heavy-sourced from the experts.
Really? What expert uses "out to elloquate"?
Not my own invention (elloquate), but the truths I espouse.
So now you're claiming "elloquate" isn't your invention? You mean you
were *lying* when you claimed it was? You really need to learn some
English, because it appears you're disowning "elloquate," which I
don't think is what you intended.
So far, all we have is your word. Which has proven unreliable. If not invented.
My religious facts are beyond question by a bunch of atheists.
Apparently not; most of your "religious facts" have been proven
erroneous by a bunch atheists using scripture as evidence.
I have friends everywheres.
Do they all have as much trouble with grammar as you?
Ah, the last vestige of a vain attempt to get at me. Catch me
missssssspelling a word.
Or inventing them and expecting other will know what you mean.
Hahahahahaha.
You're insane.
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| User: "Kenny Leong" |
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09 Sep 2003 09:47:12 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<pkhslvc9mbcrtomkslvin9rdcvqdaviao3@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:45:57 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
wrote:
So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
Liar
Hey, "elloquate" is my own personal invention.
You've flipped dukey.
Like anyone would believe you have friends.
Believe, robin, believe.
I have friends everywheres.
We'd like to be your friend too dukey, but we can't because you're a liar.
Kenny L.
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| User: "Kenny Leong" |
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09 Sep 2003 04:41:49 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<ndrrlvctuahk8gsehf7n9lnjc23h49dnk9@4ax.com>...
On 9 Sep 2003 06:06:05 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
So now you're making up your own words that nobody else understands
right? Example ... 'learn out to elloquate'. hahahahhahahahahha!!!!!!!
Moron.
Kenny L.
I've used it for years with my friends. They laugh at it also.
duke, American-American
Oh gee....look at your teeth falling out. That's what happens when you
continue to lie, even when you lie to try to save face, but not doing
a very good job of it at all. hehehe
Kenny L.
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06 Sep 2003 07:13:12 AM |
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On 5 Sep 2003 15:12:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Heaven forbid. You just got caught with your pants down around your
ankles, AGAIN, little leong.
ordain: 1. to put in order; arrange; prepare 2 a) to decree; order;
establish; enact b) to predetermine; predestine. Webster's New World
Dictionary, 3rd College Ed.
In other words, the path of man is arranged, decreed, ordered,
established, predetermined, predestined by the Lord.
Yes, to be free choice. To be procreated, to grow in the womb for 9
months, to be birthed, live and then to die. To suffer the pains of
humanship dictated by A&E.
You can't push the words where you want them to go, jess. You have to
accept them for what they are.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "JessHC" |
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06 Sep 2003 08:27:59 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<rjjjlv4hpk1ho7map4pt1nokjivmldh771@4ax.com>...
On 5 Sep 2003 15:12:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Heaven forbid. You just got caught with your pants down around your
ankles, AGAIN, little leong.
ordain: 1. to put in order; arrange; prepare 2 a) to decree; order;
establish; enact b) to predetermine; predestine. Webster's New World
Dictionary, 3rd College Ed.
In other words, the path of man is arranged, decreed, ordered,
established, predetermined, predestined by the Lord.
Yes, to be free choice. To be procreated, to grow in the womb for 9
months, to be birthed, live and then to die. To suffer the pains of
humanship dictated by A&E.
You can't push the words where you want them to go, jess. You have to
accept them for what they are.
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear, but
in your obssessive refusal to accept reality you're trying (and
failing) to twist it to mean "the steps of man are chosen by man." It
doesn't say that, numbskull. It doesn't say "predestined by the Lord
to be freely chosen by man." It doesn't say "the Lord gave man free
will." It says "the Lord ordains (or 'predetermines') man's path."
Your bible is admitting there is no free will, idiot. Do you have any
evidence anywhere other than your own disreputable word that it means
anything other than what it says? Maybe an authority that can
demonstrate it's a faulty translation?
No, of course not. Trolls don't bother with such mundane minutia.
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07 Sep 2003 06:46:54 AM |
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On 6 Sep 2003 18:27:59 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
You can't push the words where you want them to go, jess. You have to
accept them for what they are.
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
You trying to take the opening scenario of God giving A&E free choice
even to choose away from God and applying a different set of criteria
for you and I. For their sins, they were relegated to the real world
that you and I live in, where we're free to choose - good or bad. And
to be rewarded accordingly.
in your obssessive refusal to accept reality you're trying (and
failing) to twist it to mean "the steps of man are chosen by man." It
doesn't say that, numbskull.
Except that that's exactly what it means - we are free to choose just
as A&E were free to choose.
It doesn't say "predestined by the Lord
to be freely chosen by man." It doesn't say "the Lord gave man free
will." It says "the Lord ordains (or 'predetermines') man's path."
And free choice fits right into "man's path".
You can't make it read what you so desperately want it to.
Your bible is admitting there is no free will, idiot.
Sorry, but scripture says exactly that - free choice.
Do you have any
evidence anywhere other than your own disreputable word that it means
anything other than what it says? Maybe an authority that can
demonstrate it's a faulty translation?
No, of course not.
Yes - the never ending theme in scripture of "choose wisely".
It's everywheres. It's everywheres.
Your desire to choose wrongly is your own demise. It has made you an
atheist.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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07 Sep 2003 08:46:39 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<e46mlv4uaav62gsel0ggphlplj2fnoufh2@4ax.com>...
On 6 Sep 2003 18:27:59 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
You can't push the words where you want them to go, jess. You have to
accept them for what they are.
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Kenny L.
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08 Sep 2003 06:47:09 AM |
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On 7 Sep 2003 18:46:39 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
The great part is that I know exactly what I'm saying and you two put
together still can't figure it out.
So ask me how worried I am about your nonsense.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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09 Sep 2003 08:11:45 AM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<enqolvkpdp6v85njeddkg3dqf3kf25q87c@4ax.com>...
On 7 Sep 2003 18:46:39 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
You're hallucinating again dukey, you moron. Show us PROOF of the
three letter words. Or are you making that up as well as you usually
do?
A fool that begins to make their own words up, that nobody
understands, is a total moron. "learn out to elloquate".
hahahahahahahhahaa!!!!!!!!
Kenny L.
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09 Sep 2003 10:13:03 AM |
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On 9 Sep 2003 06:11:45 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
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You're hallucinating again dukey, you moron. Show us PROOF of the
three letter words. Or are you making that up as well as you usually
do?
All over the place in past posts.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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09 Sep 2003 02:35:51 PM |
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In article <ccrrlvoeusch9glt7t4hg98s5ajq22kjnj@4ax.com>, duke32
<duke32@earthlink.net> writes:
On 9 Sep 2003 06:11:45 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
You're hallucinating again dukey, you moron. Show us PROOF of the
three letter words. Or are you making that up as well as you usually
do?
All over the place in past posts.
It's good you recognize you're hallucinating and making up stuff all over the
place, but it isn't just in past posts; it's current posts, too, and probably
future posts.
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09 Sep 2003 04:33:54 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<ccrrlvoeusch9glt7t4hg98s5ajq22kjnj@4ax.com>...
On 9 Sep 2003 06:11:45 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
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You're hallucinating again dukey, you moron. Show us PROOF of the
three letter words. Or are you making that up as well as you usually
do?
All over the place in past posts.
duke, American-American
I said show us PROOF dukey, not more of your lies.
Kenny L.
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09 Sep 2003 10:55:51 PM |
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On 9 Sep 2003 06:11:45 -0700, (Kenny Leong) wrote:
duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<enqolvkpdp6v85njeddkg3dqf3kf25q87c@4ax.com>...
On 7 Sep 2003 18:46:39 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
You're hallucinating again dukey, you moron. Show us PROOF of the
three letter words. Or are you making that up as well as you usually
do?
A fool that begins to make their own words up, that nobody
understands, is a total moron. "learn out to elloquate".
hahahahahahahhahaa!!!!!!!!
Making up new words and redefining existing words is all part of being a Christian.
When a Christian writes "Truth" he means whatever he wants you to believe.
When a Christian writes "Lies" he means truth, which, if accepted would endanger
the control Christianity has.
"God's love" means whatever abuse God chooses to use on you.
Kenny L.
-Barry
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Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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08 Sep 2003 11:55:14 AM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<enqolvkpdp6v85njeddkg3dqf3kf25q87c@4ax.com>...
On 7 Sep 2003 18:46:39 -0700, (Kenny Leong)
wrote:
You maniac, *I'M* not "pushing" them anywhere. It says "the steps of
man are ordained by the Lord," moron It's very simple and clear,
It IS clear, but the words take many turns. You're too foolish to
recognize that.
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
I think that was an attempt at an insult, or maybe humor. Either way,
it was weak, and as is usual for you, didn't address anything being
discusses.
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
What are you talking about?
The great part is that I know exactly what I'm saying and you two put
together still can't figure it out.
Everybody knows what you're trying to say. Everybody understands what
you're trying to say. Everybody recognizes what you're saying. We
just find it amazing that adults in the 21st century believe such
things.
So ask me how worried I am about your nonsense.
Who cares what you're worried about? Not me. I just wish you'd stop
whining about it in alt.atheism. Is that too much to ask?
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| User: "duke32" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
08 Sep 2003 05:44:09 PM |
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On 8 Sep 2003 09:55:14 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
I think that was an attempt at an insult, or maybe humor. Either way,
it was weak, and as is usual for you, didn't address anything being
discusses.
I'm the one that straightened you dudes out on the many possibilites
of "man's steps being ordained".
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
What are you talking about?
It's his reputation.
The great part is that I know exactly what I'm saying and you two put
together still can't figure it out.
Everybody knows what you're trying to say. Everybody understands what
you're trying to say. Everybody recognizes what you're saying. We
just find it amazing that adults in the 21st century believe such
things.
Hey, there are eternal ramifictions of the subject. Only the foolish
like you and junior bird boy would hide from the possibilities.
So ask me how worried I am about your nonsense.
Who cares what you're worried about? Not me. I just wish you'd stop
whining about it in alt.atheism. Is that too much to ask?
I'm not going anywhere.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
08 Sep 2003 09:23:15 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<s81qlv4ntesqflfqsse5dk7k18hr9pnev2@4ax.com>...
On 8 Sep 2003 09:55:14 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
jesshc is accurate. You're a maniac dukey. You seriously need lessons
in both english comprehension and logical thinking.
Well, I'm sure you two make a cute couple.
I think that was an attempt at an insult, or maybe humor. Either way,
it was weak, and as is usual for you, didn't address anything being
discusses.
I'm the one that straightened you dudes out on the many possibilites
of "man's steps being ordained".
Hey, a non sequitr and a lie in one sentence. You must be proud.
And for a child that needed to be embarrassed into a post with more
than 1 line and limited to 3 letter words really should not point a
finger at others.
What are you talking about?
It's his reputation.
You're just a series of non-sequiturs.
The great part is that I know exactly what I'm saying and you two put
together still can't figure it out.
Everybody knows what you're trying to say. Everybody understands what
you're trying to say. Everybody recognizes what you're saying. We
just find it amazing that adults in the 21st century believe such
things.
Hey, there are eternal ramifictions of the subject. Only the foolish
like you and junior bird boy would hide from the possibilities.
Hide from what possibilities? That an unsubstantiated book of myths
has ramifications on anything? Yeah, I'm foolish that way, not
believing irrational things.
So ask me how worried I am about your nonsense.
Who cares what you're worried about? Not me. I just wish you'd stop
whining about it in alt.atheism. Is that too much to ask?
I'm not going anywhere.
You could have said, "Yes, that's too much to ask, I'm going to
continue to whine and preach where I'm explicitly not wanted and
purposely rude," but you lack the necessary qualities.
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| User: "duke32" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
09 Sep 2003 10:12:22 AM |
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On 8 Sep 2003 19:23:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
I'm the one that straightened you dudes out on the many possibilites
of "man's steps being ordained".
Hey, a non sequitr and a lie in one sentence. You must be proud.
Actually 2 truths.
Hey, there are eternal ramifictions of the subject. Only the foolish
like you and junior bird boy would hide from the possibilities.
Hide from what possibilities? That an unsubstantiated book of myths
has ramifications on anything? Yeah, I'm foolish that way, not
believing irrational things.
Hey, it's your funeral. Do whatever you want.
You could have said, "Yes, that's too much to ask, I'm going to
continue to whine and preach where I'm explicitly not wanted and
purposely rude," but you lack the necessary qualities.
I need to straighten you little people out.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
09 Sep 2003 05:22:06 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<b8rrlvsdlh6h66s6vqkmk37q52ihig8ki6@4ax.com>...
On 8 Sep 2003 19:23:15 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
I'm the one that straightened you dudes out on the many possibilites
of "man's steps being ordained".
Hey, a non sequitr and a lie in one sentence. You must be proud.
Actually 2 truths.
Nope. Unless you mean both of my statements.
Hey, there are eternal ramifictions of the subject. Only the foolish
like you and junior bird boy would hide from the possibilities.
Hide from what possibilities? That an unsubstantiated book of myths
has ramifications on anything? Yeah, I'm foolish that way, not
believing irrational things.
Hey, it's your funeral. Do whatever you want.
You keep saying that, and then you insist we should suddenly follow
your mythical little god, which you keep saying you've provided
evidence for but that nobody actually saw.
You could have said, "Yes, that's too much to ask, I'm going to
continue to whine and preach where I'm explicitly not wanted and
purposely rude," but you lack the necessary qualities.
I need to straighten you little people out.
Like that, right there. Why do you feel the need to "straighten us
out"? How tremendously fucking presumptuous of you. It must be a
great burden, being the instrument of The One True God. Listen,
*****: We don't now and will never believe anything you're saying,
you're not changing anyone's position, your sanctimonious harassment
and tendency towards lies is not welcome here. The only thing you're
being is annoying and rude. Just like your snivelling whiny little
god. There are literally millions of theists in the world leaving us
alone; why must you be different?
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| User: "duke32" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
11 Sep 2003 06:43:38 AM |
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On 9 Sep 2003 15:22:06 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hide from what possibilities? That an unsubstantiated book of myths
has ramifications on anything? Yeah, I'm foolish that way, not
believing irrational things.
Hey, it's your funeral. Do whatever you want.
You keep saying that, and then you insist we should suddenly follow
your mythical little god, which you keep saying you've provided
evidence for but that nobody actually saw.
Oh, lots of people saw my multiple posts of my evidence.
You could have said, "Yes, that's too much to ask, I'm going to
continue to whine and preach where I'm explicitly not wanted and
purposely rude," but you lack the necessary qualities.
I need to straighten you little people out.
Like that, right there. Why do you feel the need to "straighten us
out"? How tremendously fucking presumptuous of you.
It's clearly for your future betterment.
It must be a
great burden, being the instrument of The One True God. Listen,
*****: We don't now and will never believe anything you're saying,
you're not changing anyone's position,
Then again I can claim that my efforts are saving others by the
thousands, maybe more. You know, the silent lurkers.
your sanctimonious harassment
and tendency towards lies is not welcome here.
Of course I'm welcome. Just as much as you are.
The only thing you're
being is annoying and rude. Just like your snivelling whiny little
god. There are literally millions of theists in the world leaving us
alone; why must you be different?
And there could be millions of atheists that want me to stay.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
11 Sep 2003 01:24:17 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<gin0mvsgfore4r8h7flbggdf4uvsmhrnad@4ax.com>...
On 9 Sep 2003 15:22:06 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
Hide from what possibilities? That an unsubstantiated book of myths
has ramifications on anything? Yeah, I'm foolish that way, not
believing irrational things.
Hey, it's your funeral. Do whatever you want.
You keep saying that, and then you insist we should suddenly follow
your mythical little god, which you keep saying you've provided
evidence for but that nobody actually saw.
Oh, lots of people saw my multiple posts of my evidence.
As far as I can tell, lots of people saw your multiple posts of
unsubstantiated claims, which you don't even have the decency to
provide a link to.
You could have said, "Yes, that's too much to ask, I'm going to
continue to whine and preach where I'm explicitly not wanted and
purposely rude," but you lack the necessary qualities.
I need to straighten you little people out.
Like that, right there. Why do you feel the need to "straighten us
out"? How tremendously fucking presumptuous of you.
It's clearly for your future betterment.
No, it's clearly for your ego. You have neither the invitation, the
right, nor the ability to determine what is beneficial to anyone in
alt.atheism; hence your presumption.
It must be a
great burden, being the instrument of The One True God. Listen,
*****: We don't now and will never believe anything you're saying,
you're not changing anyone's position,
Then again I can claim that my efforts are saving others by the
thousands, maybe more. You know, the silent lurkers.
That's funny; I see that a lot from people losing a usenet argument.
"The lurkers support me in email." Don't you think, if they were
benefitting from anything you've said, if they think you're right,
they might offer some support?
your sanctimonious harassment
and tendency towards lies is not welcome here.
Of course I'm welcome. Just as much as you are.
Nope. Wanna take a vote?
The only thing you're
being is annoying and rude. Just like your snivelling whiny little
god. There are literally millions of theists in the world leaving us
alone; why must you be different?
And there could be millions of atheists that want me to stay.
There might be millions of atheists that want you to harass
alt.atheism? Find two. Find one. Out of millions, it should be
easy. But before you do that, answer the question; why, when so many
other theists are tolerant and respectful (which results, I should
point out, in mutual respect and tolerance from atheists), are you
intolerant and disrespectful?
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| User: "duke32" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
12 Sep 2003 06:32:05 AM |
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On 11 Sep 2003 11:24:17 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
As far as I can tell, lots of people saw your multiple posts of
unsubstantiated claims, which you don't even have the decency to
provide a link to.
What do you mean "unsubstantiated claim"? My claims themselves are
facts, and hence become my evidence for my belief in God.
Like that, right there. Why do you feel the need to "straighten us
out"? How tremendously fucking presumptuous of you.
It's clearly for your future betterment.
No, it's clearly for your ego. You have neither the invitation, the
right, nor the ability to determine what is beneficial to anyone in
alt.atheism; hence your presumption.
I have the same invitation and the same right to post here as you do.
Why are you afraid to consider you could be wrong?
Then again I can claim that my efforts are saving others by the
thousands, maybe more. You know, the silent lurkers.
That's funny; I see that a lot from people losing a usenet argument.
"The lurkers support me in email."
I'm not one that said any such thing about email.
Of course I'm welcome. Just as much as you are.
Nope. Wanna take a vote?
Just as long as you include the silent lurkers.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter mpainteratattdotnet" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
12 Sep 2003 10:10:59 AM |
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"duke32" <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:27b3mvcpmior7a3ec7qvc5bnb0smh5kkq5@4ax.com...
On 11 Sep 2003 11:24:17 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
<snip >
I have the same invitation and the same right to post here as you do.
You received no invitation, no one did. You are not welcome here anymore
than you are on any of the other sites you post or have posted on.
I suspect you spend most of your time here because those who call themselves
catholics and chrsistians respond to you in the same way we do, however you
can use our atheism as an excuse here.
I also believ you have either a drinking problem or something else which
affects your thought process in a matter similar to alcohol.
Why are you afraid to consider you could be wrong?
Pot, kettle, black.
Then again I can claim that my efforts are saving others by the
thousands, maybe more. You know, the silent lurkers.
That's funny; I see that a lot from people losing a usenet argument.
"The lurkers support me in email."
I'm not one that said any such thing about email.
Of course I'm welcome. Just as much as you are.
Nope. Wanna take a vote?
Just as long as you include the silent lurkers.
Which, like the silent majority proved to be non existant.
duke, American-American
*****
2Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that each one may
receive what is due him for the things done
while in the body, whether good or bad.
*****
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: God KILLED his SON for one rotten APPLE ! |
12 Sep 2003 02:39:25 PM |
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duke32 <duke32@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<27b3mvcpmior7a3ec7qvc5bnb0smh5kkq5@4ax.com>...
On 11 Sep 2003 11:24:17 -0700, (JessHC) wrote:
As far as I can tell, lots of people saw your multiple posts of
unsubstantiated claims, which you don't even have the decency to
provide a link to.
What do you mean "unsubstantiated claim"? My claims themselves are
facts, and hence become my evidence for my belief in God.
Claims are not facts. Claims are not evidence. They are merely
claims, unless you have some way to verify their accuracy. Which you
haven't even tried to do.
Like that, right there. Why do you feel the need to "straighten us
out"? How tremendously fucking presumptuous of you.
It's clearly for your future betterment.
No, it's clearly for your ego. You have neither the invitation, the
right, nor the ability to determine what is beneficial to anyone in
alt.atheism; hence your presumption.
I have the same invitation and the same right to post here as you do.
Doesn't address my point, and only further demonstrates your
presumption. Who invited to you impose your religious views on them
for their betterment? What gives you the right to determine what is
beneficial to anyone other than yourself?
Why are you afraid to consider you could be wrong?
I've never given you any reason to believe I'm afraid to consider that
I might be wrong; in fact, I appreciate being corrected, as I did,
e.g., in another thread when a question of the relation between Hebrew
and Aramaic came up.
Then again I can claim that my efforts are saving others by the
thousands, maybe more. You know, the silent lurkers.
That's funny; I see that a lot from people losing a usenet argument.
"The lurkers support me in email."
I'm not one that said any such thing about email.
You're presuming again; I didn't say you had. I was just pointing out
that frequently, when someone such as yourself is losing an argument
on usenet, reference to unseen, unheard, unknown supporters is made.
Which is such an empty boast as to be laughable.
Of course I'm welcome. Just as much as you are.
Nope. Wanna take a vote?
Just as long as you include the silent lurkers.
No problem, get 'em to speak up. But don't expect anyone to believe
you when you say "I've got x number of supportive votes, you just
can't see them or hear them. Just take my word."
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