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09 Dec 2005 12:41:24 PM |
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Re: God really does speak to human beings today |
*The Christian mind sucking Ghoul* Jim wrote:
In <news:1134131521.673576.45500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
GOD SPEAKS
Yes, God speaks.
The universe exists and remains, therefore God speaks, and His Word is
heard by things having no ears, hearts or minds at all.
But being human, we do get confused about so many things. Is there
anything at all that we do not get confused?
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------ Kook crap snipper AUTOMATICALLY!! activated it's self!
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And so we sometimes become aware that we have heard the voice of God.
Jim
www.goodwordusa.org
www.jimsdesk.com
*Thus spake God's Creator*
You _definitely_ *ARE* CONFUSED!!!
Your trying to confuse others should be a Crucifying offense!
~~ GOD'S CREATOR! ~~
That was my only sin!
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Wise men study unknown and mysterious things, to enhance their wisdom.
While stupid men shout, kneel down, close their eyes and mumble...
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WHY ?
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner/
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
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09 Dec 2005 06:31:28 PM |
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Yes, to psychotics.
"GOD's CREATOR!" <Really_God@Go.Com> wrote in message
news:odkmf.999$QQ1.248@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
*The Christian mind sucking Ghoul* Jim wrote:
In <news:1134131521.673576.45500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
GOD SPEAKS
Yes, God speaks.
The universe exists and remains, therefore God speaks, and His Word is
heard by things having no ears, hearts or minds at all.
But being human, we do get confused about so many things. Is there
anything at all that we do not get confused?
.......
------ Kook crap snipper AUTOMATICALLY!! activated it's self!
.......
And so we sometimes become aware that we have heard the voice of God.
Jim
www.goodwordusa.org
www.jimsdesk.com
*Thus spake God's Creator*
You _definitely_ *ARE* CONFUSED!!!
Your trying to confuse others should be a Crucifying offense!
~~ GOD'S CREATOR! ~~
That was my only sin!
:-(
--
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Wise men study unknown and mysterious things, to enhance their wisdom.
While stupid men shout, kneel down, close their eyes and mumble...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHY ?
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner/
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
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| User: "Jim" |
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10 Dec 2005 06:34:47 AM |
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GOD SPEAKS
Yes, God speaks.
The universe exists and remains, therefore God speaks, and His Word is heard
by things having no ears, hearts or minds at all.
But being human, we do get confused about so many things. Is there anything
at all that we do not get confused?
I can walk across a room and when I arrive not know why I went there. I can
look at a green light and think it's red -- without being color-blind. I can
think that a comment is meant one way, when the speaker really meant
something else. I can think one thing and write or speak another.
Our own state of mind, our own preoccupations, our fears, our ideas about
things, our belief system(s), our desires at any given time -- all this and
more can keep us from seeing, hearing or thinking clearly. We're creatures
not designed to know and rule the whole universe, or to know "all things" in
our present state. We seldom know what to eat for breakfast.
And being fallen, we're not very accustomed to listening closely to God when
He speaks. We do not listen because we seldom plan to obey. A habit that we
develop very early in life.
Even as believers, more often than not, the voice of God breaking into our
busy thoughts, our busy plans, our busy hopes and ambitions and desires
(etc. & etc) is a distraction, opposing our own thoughts, and even offending
us if we're really set on doing whatever it is we already want to do.
But God speaks anyway. And He often will say things that really challenge us
in significant ways.
When Abram was busy mourning his lack of an heir, his old age, and his wife's
infertility, God told him the most impossible thing that Abram could have
heard. God told him, "Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are
able to number them." And He said to him, "So shall your descendants be."
When The Lord visited with Gideon, who was hiding in a winepress, trying to
thresh wheat, He told Gideon the very opposite of what Gideon and his family
were thinking. God's message: "The LORD is with you, you mighty man of
valor!"
When God told Samuel to anoint David as king in Saul's place, it's very
possible that Samuel wondered until his death if maybe he'd made a mistake,
since only trouble seemed to come from that move. Had he really heard God
that time?
And what about Able who was led of God to offer a sacrifice, and who died
for his trouble. Or Noah who spent many years building and sealing a box big
enough for all the animals in the world to float in -- many years before
there was any hint of a flood that could require such a box.
And what about Jeremiah who prophesied all his life, and was often laughed
at, & thought crazy, and even worse, a traitor to Israel. And even after
some of his prophetic words came to pass, he was still not believed when he
spoke for God among the remnants in Jerusalem, and was hauled off to Egypt
by the unbelieving Jews.
And only trouble seemed to come from those dreams that Joseph had --
especially when he told Jacob and the family. For many years, things just
got worse and worse and worse. You can't get much lower in life than a
dungeon in ancient Egypt. How many times did Joseph wonder about those
dreams, and think that maybe he should've kept his mouth shut? Only after
many years did he finally see God's true hand in the events of his life.
And another Joseph, in the first century BC, was also told the opposite of
what he himself really felt and believed. He dreamed impossible things. And
the result was that he had to flee into Egypt with his wife and her child.
And returning, years later, he continued to live far away from Jerusalem.
What about Jesus, our Lord, whose words and actions were almost never
understood during his time on earth -- not even by those who loved Him and
believed in Him. And there is Saul of Tarsus, When the Lord spoke to Ananias
about visiting Saul, this godly man felt compelled to remind the Lord of who
and what Saul was.
And Peter had to remind the Lord that his lips had never touched any unclean
thing, when God gave him the vision of all kinds of creatures lowered in a
sheet. But long before that, a more interesting situation. God is giving
Ezekiel instructions on how to act out the fall and ruin of Jerusalem. In
Ezekiel 4:9-15, we see God (the Author of the Law of Moses) telling the
prophet to cook with human dung as fuel. But Ezekiel protests, that he
cannot eat any defiled thing, and the Lord relents, allowing him to cook
over cow's dung.
And so on.
In 2 Kings 5, the word of God to Naaman was simply unbelievable and highly
offensive. By the same prophet, (2 Kings 7) God spoke to the king of Samaria
about a sudden reversal of a famine brought on by the siege of the city by
Syria. It was unbelievable, and one officer said so. But outcast lepers "had
an idea." Acting on a "hunch" they walked right into the enemy camp --
against all common sense, except the kind that comes down to us from heaven
when God is directing our steps. And so the message of God proved true and
the city was saved.
Jesus rarely told people what they expected to hear, what they wanted to
hear, or even what they could understand, much less what they could readily
accept or believe. Not only was this true before He was crucified, it was
also the case as soon as He rose again, and even after He had ascended into
heaven.
How might we have responded?
How well would we do, telling people -- even good religious people -- that
the guy we had been following, the criminal who had been executed a number
of weeks ago, was not only alive, but had also risen by some unseen power or
force, right up into the sky until no one could see Him anymore? And then we
could tell them that He would soon come again right back out of the sky.
This same guy that everyone had seen in the streets and in the Temple
area -- that this very man would return to earth, splitting the sky wide
open with all manner of radiance and power, to rule over all things.
It's often pretty easy for us to accept what God said and did long, long
ago, in some other, far away place, among a people we have never known. That
way, it's like a nice bedtime story that we might tell our children. We can
see the lessons in the story, and its moral. But it can become very
difficult for us when we are suddenly placed by the same God in the hot
seat. For now we have the same difficulty that those long ago people had to
deal with.
We may smile to think of Gideon trying hard to believe that this stranger is
really God or an angel of God. We may chuckle to think of Joshua challenging
a man outside of Jericho, and then falling on his face when he learns that
this "man" is the Captain of God's hosts come to give the real "battle plan"
for taking the city.
But when we're the ones who must believe God, when we are hearing God and
trying to make up our minds if this could really be God -- the living God
who rules all the universe -- speaking with us -- with me, right here and
now?
The most troubling thing, for me, about the voice of God in my life, is that
I know with all that I am, that it is the Lord. And He rarely intervenes in
some clear way, some obvious way, just to tell me to have a nice day.
For God to break in and speak in an absolute way -- where there is no
mistaking His voice -- often means that I have already ignored the "still,
small voice" that should have directed me into His will. I have ignored the
gentle leading of His Spirit, the unseen and unheard prodding & prompting of
my heart -- or worse, I have been ignoring the very clear teachings of
Scripture.
Anyone at all can and will hear God's voice. Not just prophets and terribly
important saints of God. To hear the voice of God does not mean that you are
spiritual or obedient or godly at all. It does not even mean that you are
physically alive. It simply means that you exist -- that you're either a
living creature, or a dead one waiting to be raised up again. Or you might
even be an atom, a rock, a galaxy.
Likewise, to speak clearly what God wants you to say, as we all should know,
could even mean that you are a donkey or a mule. It does not mean that you're
godly or more spiritual than others. Even Balaam, a man eaten up with greed
and treachery was able to speak the profound truths -- by God's Spirit --
words still appreciated and quoted very often today.
Words like, "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He
should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will
He not make it good?" (Num 23:19)
Fear God and do not think to add to His words. Do the best you can to honor
the Lord in all that you do and say -- following the words and examples and
teachings of Scripture. Never wrest the words of Scripture around to please
yourself or to try and approve your own actions, ideas, or feelings. Never
think of yourself as "the one person" in your family, your area, or your
fellowship, who hears and knows God.
That would be my advice to anyone who wonders if God is speaking to them.
Because He is always speaking, I believe, to all of us -- to the saints and
to the sinners. Always remember that the Lord can use anyone and anything to
get His will across and to accomplish His purposes.
The real question is: Who is listening to the voice of God?
Who among us spends time alone with God, just to receive His good counsel,
and to know His good will? Who seeks God for Himself, to simply have God's
Presence -- and not always to get some answer, some gift, some miracle or
sign from God? Who loves God and pants after His good Presence with all
their heart?
The Lord knows that I am often guilty of simply wanting some THING from God,
and I sometimes fail to take to heart how wonderful it is just to know Him,
just to be alone with Him, to have the Lord Himself and nothing else. May
the Lord forgive me for so often being as hard-hearted and unbelieving as
any unsaved sinner walking the earth.
Even so, the Lord is gracious and kind to us all, and He woos each of us
ever closer to Himself. And in Him, under His wing, we have perfect shelter
in every difficulty of life and death. In Him we have peace and joy
forevermore. In the Lord is abundant goodness and mercy to go around for
every human soul that thirsts and hungers for more of Him.
And so we sometimes become aware that we have heard the voice of God.
Jim
www.goodwordusa.org
www.jimsdesk.com
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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10 Dec 2005 09:29:48 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:34:47 -0700, "Jim" <jim@goodwordusa.org> wrote:
GOD SPEAKS
Yes, God speaks.
That's the voices in your head, in-your-face moron with the mentality
of the KKK and their burning crosses.
The universe exists and remains, therefore God speaks, and His Word is heard
by things having no ears, hearts or minds at all.
Failed logic 101, did you?
Look up non-sequitur, begging the question and a few other fallacies.
Do you have a reason for being such a stupid, in-your-face,
deliberately rude *****? Is it because you're a Christian and
imagine your religion exempts you from giving the kind of courtesy and
respect you feel you deserve yourself?
[almost 200 lines of in-your-face rubbish deleted]
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| User: "Bills Garden" |
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10 Dec 2005 09:55:11 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9sslp117c37rjeuqb7qp7jlmpj5c66507j@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:34:47 -0700, "Jim" <jim@goodwordusa.org> wrote:
GOD SPEAKS
Yes, God speaks.
That's the voices in your head, in-your-face moron with the mentality
of the KKK and their burning crosses.
The universe exists and remains, therefore God speaks, and His Word is
heard
by things having no ears, hearts or minds at all.
Failed logic 101, did you?
Look up non-sequitur, begging the question and a few other fallacies.
Do you have a reason for being such a stupid, in-your-face,
deliberately rude *****? Is it because you're a Christian and
imagine your religion exempts you from giving the kind of courtesy and
respect you feel you deserve yourself?
[almost 200 lines of in-your-face rubbish deleted]
Yep, ol' Jim has always had a problem with diaherria of the mouth. The only
poster I know of on these groups who can use a whole lot of verbiage without
saying anything!
Shalom,
Bill
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| User: "Jim" |
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10 Dec 2005 11:25:37 AM |
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Bills Garden wrote:
Yep, ol' Jim has always had a problem with diaherria of the mouth. The
only poster I know of on these groups who can use a whole lot of verbiage
without saying anything!
Shalom,
Bill
Hi, Bill & gang.
Hey, you should be glad that I hold back. What If I shared a really long
post? lol Good thing I try to keep it really simple for you.
You poor fellas. I really do feel sorry for you.
No, I mean it. Think about it.
Yours is the unhappy task of attempting to silence the unbounded joy that
springs from eternal life. You may as well try to stop the sun from shining
as to try and stop the fountain of eternal life that wells up within every
human spirit born anew -- by God's own life and power in Jesus Christ.
But I know you've got to follow that dark thing that has its grip on your
withered hearts. You love your sin, and you think that it'll somehow make
you truly happy -- if only you can just cram a little more sin into your
life.
In the mean time, those who know the Lord Jesus will continue to rejoice in
the life that's ours in Christ. We know what we have, and we cannot be glum
and unbelieving, as you guys still are. We've been right where you are. We
remember what it was like to linger day after day in the endless darkness.
No fun. No hope. No meaning to life at all.
But that very darkness and emptiness remains your choice, as of this moment.
Maybe someday you'll change.
God's best to each of you. I truly hope you will eventually all come around
to a genuine faith in Jesus Christ, and have your souls set ablaze with the
living fire of Christ's Spirit. Only then will you begin to understand.
Only then will you have eyes to see, and ears to hear.
Until then, watch out for big trucks, fast cars, and slippery sidewalks --
don't want to end it all before you have the chance to repent. When you
stand before God, you want to be there without your sins still hanging over
your head. So be careful. Take care of yourselves.
Oh, and if I don't happen to give attention to any of your posts before
then, have a great Christmas. Be sure to spend time with friends and loved
ones. Make each day count. Do your best to grow in kindness, wisdom, and
mercy. Life on earth is just too short to spend it in constant misery.
Jim
www.goodwordusa.org
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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10 Dec 2005 12:39:43 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:25:37 -0700, "Jim" <jim@goodwordusa.org> wrote:
Bills Garden wrote:
Yep, ol' Jim has always had a problem with diaherria of the mouth. The
only poster I know of on these groups who can use a whole lot of verbiage
without saying anything!
Shalom,
Bill
Hi, Bill & gang.
Hey, you should be glad that I hold back. What If I shared a really long
post? lol Good thing I try to keep it really simple for you.
You poor fellas. I really do feel sorry for you.
No, I mean it. Think about it.
Yours is the unhappy task of attempting to silence the unbounded joy that
springs from eternal life. You may as well try to stop the sun from shining
as to try and stop the fountain of eternal life that wells up within every
human spirit born anew -- by God's own life and power in Jesus Christ.
Don't be daft. We have no such task. Your making it up.
But I know you've got to follow that dark thing that has its grip on your
withered hearts. You love your sin, and you think that it'll somehow make
you truly happy -- if only you can just cram a little more sin into your
life.
Well its the only life we get though I am not sure what you mean by
"sin". Can you give us an example of this sin that you presuppose
we 'enjoy'?
In the mean time, those who know the Lord Jesus will continue to rejoice in
the life that's ours in Christ. We know what we have, and we cannot be glum
and unbelieving, as you guys still are.
Glum? Who says we are glum? Ah yes you do.
We've been right where you are. We
remember what it was like to linger day after day in the endless darkness.
No fun. No hope. No meaning to life at all.
Rubbish. I am enjoying myself right now.
But that very darkness and emptiness remains your choice, as of this moment.
Maybe someday you'll change.
What choice? I don't recall being given any choices?
God's best to each of you. I truly hope you will eventually all come around
to a genuine faith in Jesus Christ, and have your souls set ablaze with the
living fire of Christ's Spirit. Only then will you begin to understand.
Only then will you have eyes to see, and ears to hear.
Don't be daft.
Until then, watch out for big trucks, fast cars, and slippery sidewalks --
don't want to end it all before you have the chance to repent. When you
stand before God, you want to be there without your sins still hanging over
your head. So be careful. Take care of yourselves.
I always do and don't need you to tell me thank you.
Oh, and if I don't happen to give attention to any of your posts before
then, have a great Christmas.
Sorry but I don't attend the Christ's Mass I celebrate the end of year
Winter Festival though.
Be sure to spend time with friends and loved
ones. Make each day count. Do your best to grow in kindness, wisdom, and
mercy.
Always do, all the time. Christians might do this only at certain
times of the year (I call their Christ's Mass the cynical time when
they pretend to love one another then get back to normal a few
days later with their hatred and spite)
Life on earth is just too short to spend it in constant misery.
You are dead right there that is why I am not (in misery that
is)
If you think that because we have no belief in the existence of
god or gods that we are in misery and unhappy then you are
a fool. We laugh at your stupid notion.
What is it about this newsgroup that attracts all these religious
cranks? They are like moths to a flame. I guess secretly
they know we are right at hate us for it and are afraid that we
might undermine their 'faith' which they cling to as if it is
somehow of great importance. In reality it is a millstone
that imprisons them and prevents their minds and 'spirits'
from soaring. We should pity them their sill delusions and
worthless beliefs.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Hannele Huigens" |
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10 Dec 2005 04:10:39 PM |
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Op Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:25:37 +0100 schreef Jim <jim@goodwordusa.org>:
Bills Garden wrote:
Yep, ol' Jim has always had a problem with diaherria of the mouth. The
only poster I know of on these groups who can use a whole lot of
verbiage
without saying anything!
Shalom,
Bill
Hi, Bill & gang.
Hey, you should be glad that I hold back. What If I shared a really long
post? lol Good thing I try to keep it really simple for you.
You poor fellas. I really do feel sorry for you.
No, I mean it. Think about it.
You've got a funny way of showing it. Ridiculing us and lying about us
won't convince anyone.
Yours is the unhappy task of attempting to silence the unbounded joy that
springs from eternal life. You may as well try to stop the sun from
shining
as to try and stop the fountain of eternal life that wells up within
every
human spirit born anew -- by God's own life and power in Jesus Christ.
God is dead? How is that possible? He never was alive in the first place.
But I know you've got to follow that dark thing that has its grip on your
withered hearts. You love your sin, and you think that it'll somehow
make
you truly happy -- if only you can just cram a little more sin into your
life.
My heart is doing fine, thank you for asking. Not withered at all, it
still pumps my blood around.
And I don't do sin, people without a godbelief can't sin.
In the mean time, those who know the Lord Jesus will continue to rejoice
in
the life that's ours in Christ. We know what we have, and we cannot be
glum
and unbelieving, as you guys still are. We've been right where you
are. We
remember what it was like to linger day after day in the endless
darkness.
No glumness here, nor anyh lingering. I love my life, my family, my
friends, my work and my pastimes. I live in the here and now, which is
good, because that's all I've got. I don't waste my life waiting for
eternal bliss.
No fun. No hope. No meaning to life at all.
Your life has the meaning you give it and waiting for a life after death
is wasting the one you've got.
But that very darkness and emptiness remains your choice, as of this
moment.
What darkness and emptiness?
Maybe someday you'll change.
I sincerely hope not, I'm fine just the way I am.
God's best to each of you. I truly hope you will eventually all come
around
to a genuine faith in Jesus Christ, and have your souls set ablaze with
the
living fire of Christ's Spirit. Only then will you begin to understand.
It's good there is no thing like a soul then, I wouldn't want that to
catch fire if I had one.
Only then will you have eyes to see, and ears to hear.
Let me check: 2 eyes, 2 ears, all of them working fine. What are you
talking about?
Until then, watch out for big trucks, fast cars, and slippery sidewalks
I always do, do you think I'm suicidal or stupid?
don't want to end it all before you have the chance to repent.
Repent about what? Whenever I do something I feel guilty about I try to
rectify it there and then. It's a bit late to do that after I die, isn't
it? Especially since the dead can't do a thing but rot.
When you
stand before God, you want to be there without your sins still hanging
over
your head. So be careful. Take care of yourselves.
Which god is that? What are its characteristics? How would I recognise it
if I found it on the street?
Oh, and if I don't happen to give attention to any of your posts before
then, have a great Christmas. Be sure to spend time with friends and
loved
ones. Make each day count. Do your best to grow in kindness, wisdom, and
mercy. Life on earth is just too short to spend it in constant misery.
And a great midwinter feast to you as well.
--
Hannele
aa #2221
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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10 Dec 2005 04:52:39 PM |
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actually Jim,
I sort of feel sorry for you, you are the one worshipping a mass murderer
and a child killer.
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| User: " torresD" |
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10 Dec 2005 05:35:45 PM |
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Terrorist in Pampers
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Palestinian Ambulance=Donkey Cart - Carrying Woman in Labor
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Your Papers, Please
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Tush Pat
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