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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Pastor Frank"
Date: 16 Sep 2004 07:38:11 PM
Object: Re: god's wrathfulness and mercy
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Rufus wrote:

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i think it's amazing how christians love to talk about the mercy

and

love of god. here's my question. if god decides to be wrathful
toward his creation because of certain behaviors (sins) and then
decides to turn around and be "merciful and forgiving" how does

that

make him so great? i think it just makes him a psycho.



God's mercy lies in the fact that everyone is deserving of His wrath

on

Earth and eternal punishment after death. He shows His mercy by

being

kind

to some people, even though they deserve the opposite.

Rufus


yeah, but who says he needs to be so vengeful and full of wrath in the
first place? what amount of sinning in this life can possibly be
deserving of a sentence of conscious torment that never ends?


One sin is all that is required for eternal damnation.


Oh really? and it is hard to know whether my sin will get me eternal

damnation

and my friend, just by a hair's breadth of doing a little more good than

me,

gets to live in heaven for eternity.
What gross rubbish you people allow yourselved to follow.
Your god in heaven makes a decision between me and him, one burns in hell
forever the other sits on his right hand. The good and the bad HAVE to

meet

in the middle somewhere, so your god sends one to hell on one side of the
dividing line and other goes to heaven!!!!!!
Heaven and hell are primitive nonsense
bob
Humanist Atheist
Hong Kong

There you go again spamming our pristine religious NGs with atheist
clap-trap. Post atheism to atheist NGs, and Christian stuff to our Christian
NGs, and learn to tell the difference already. Sheeeeeesh!!!!!!!
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: god's wrathfulness and mercy 16 Sep 2004 11:24:42 PM
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:38:11 -0400 in episode
<rsq2d.5358$RP5.4909@fe51.usenetserver.com> we saw our hero "Pastor Frank"
<PF@Christfirst.com>:


There you go again spamming our pristine religious NGs with atheist
clap-trap. Post atheism to atheist NGs, and Christian stuff to our
Christian NGs, and learn to tell the difference already. Sheeeeeesh!!!!!!!

Learn that you don't run Usenet.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: god's wrathfulness and mercy 17 Sep 2004 07:05:10 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:38:11 -0400 in episode
<rsq2d.5358$RP5.4909@fe51.usenetserver.com> we saw our hero "Pastor Frank"
<PF@Christfirst.com>:


There you go again spamming our pristine religious NGs with atheist
clap-trap. Post atheism to atheist NGs, and Christian stuff to our
Christian NGs, and learn to tell the difference already.
Sheeeeeesh!!!!!!!


Learn that you don't run Usenet.

Well, that would be asking him to grow up and we know that's never going to
happen ;P
--
__________
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: god's wrathfulness and mercy 17 Sep 2004 08:07:34 AM
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:38:11 -0400, "Pastor Frank" <PF@Christfirst.com> wrote:

"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4149635E.3B04ECD7@netvigator.com...

Rufus wrote:

"the wonderer" <thewonderer2004@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:5b4cddc8.0409140414.6448befd@posting.google.com...

"Rufus" <vze235xx@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:<yIs1d.15309$z_3.11424@trndny07>...

"the wonderer" <thewonderer2004@lycos.com> wrote in message
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i think it's amazing how christians love to talk about the mercy

and

love of god. here's my question. if god decides to be wrathful
toward his creation because of certain behaviors (sins) and then
decides to turn around and be "merciful and forgiving" how does

that

make him so great? i think it just makes him a psycho.



God's mercy lies in the fact that everyone is deserving of His wrath

on

Earth and eternal punishment after death. He shows His mercy by

being

kind

to some people, even though they deserve the opposite.

Rufus


yeah, but who says he needs to be so vengeful and full of wrath in the
first place? what amount of sinning in this life can possibly be
deserving of a sentence of conscious torment that never ends?


One sin is all that is required for eternal damnation.


Oh really? and it is hard to know whether my sin will get me eternal

damnation

and my friend, just by a hair's breadth of doing a little more good than

me,

gets to live in heaven for eternity.
What gross rubbish you people allow yourselved to follow.
Your god in heaven makes a decision between me and him, one burns in hell
forever the other sits on his right hand. The good and the bad HAVE to

meet

in the middle somewhere, so your god sends one to hell on one side of the
dividing line and other goes to heaven!!!!!!
Heaven and hell are primitive nonsense
bob
Humanist Atheist
Hong Kong

There you go again spamming our pristine religious NGs with atheist
clap-trap. Post atheism to atheist NGs, and Christian stuff to our Christian
NGs, and learn to tell the difference already. Sheeeeeesh!!!!!!!

Nobody is deserving of wrath for being the way God made them. God is deserving of our
wrath for punishing us for his failures.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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