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Religions > Atheism |
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"david ford" |
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19 Oct 2004 07:11:22 AM |
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Re: GOP taking a leaf from the Discovery Institute? |
bigdakine@aol.comGetaGrip (Bigdakine) wrote in message news:<20041018210339.01015.00002092@mb-m15.aol.com>...
dford3@gl.umbc.edu (david ford):
"Elmer Bataitis" <nylicens@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<LfRcd.18$4v.10@news02.roc.ny>...
"david ford" <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message news:dford3-
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Saddam Hussein had a role in supporting terror.
Is that a good reason to invade Iraq?
No. Not without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Saddam Hussein gave aid and comfort to al Qaeda terrorists.
Is that a good reason to invade Iraq?
No. Not without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Do you consider the immense brutality of the Saddam
Hussein regime to be a good reason for the US to invade Iraq?
Not by ourselves. No.
Do you consider the immense brutality of the Saddam Hussein regime to
be a good reason for the U.S. & Britain to invade Iraq?
[B]"Not by ourselves." If you agree with this statement, please
complete it:
The immense, horrific brutality of the Saddam Hussein regime--
brutality on a scale not seen since the death of the atheocrat Joseph
Stalin-- was an excellent reason for the U.S. to invade Iraq by
itself, supposing the U.S. had the moral support of these other
countries: ___________________________________________________.
Of the countries you mentioned, which are involved in the Oil for Food
scandal, Oil for Food being a corrupt United Nations program by which
Saddam funneled money to leaders in certain countries to buy them off,
and diverted money away from food for Iraqi people and toward his
military infrastructure?
[Saunders]"According to the new Iraq Survey Group study by
intelligence analyst
Charles A. Duelfer, Saddam Hussein systematically bribed or greased
the palms of officials and businessmen from permanent members of the
U.N. Security Council -- France, Russia and China -- to undermine U.N.
sanctions. That strategy worked. And Saddam's corruption of the Oil
for Food program bankrolled his lethal projects."
[Dale]"As confirmed in the Duelfer report, Saddam bought support,
particularly among French, Russian and Chinese officials to whom he
would donate oil 'vouchers' that could be resold for large profits.
Recipients even included Benon Sevan, the head of the Oil for Food
program, and other officials in charge of humanitarian relief. The
scandal has gone all the way to the top, to U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan's son himself. Needless to say, the countries that
benefited most from these vouchers were also the countries that were
most adamantly opposed to the Iraq invasion."
Saunders and Dale on WMDs
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0410160816.6d02034b%40posting.google.com
French ruse to dupe U.S. over Iraq
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409060917.3e15f487%40posting.google.com
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| User: "Elmer Bataitis" |
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| Title: Re: GOP taking a leaf from the Discovery Institute? |
19 Oct 2004 07:36:33 AM |
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From: (david ford)
bigdakine@aol.comGetaGrip (Bigdakine) wrote in message
news:<20041018210339.01015.00002092@mb-m15.aol.com>...
(david ford):
"Elmer Bataitis" <nylicens@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<LfRcd.18$4v.10@news02.roc.ny>...
"david ford" < > wrote in message news:dford3-
(snip)
(snip)
Saddam Hussein had a role in supporting terror.
Is that a good reason to invade Iraq?
No. Not without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Saddam Hussein gave aid and comfort to al Qaeda terrorists.
Is that a good reason to invade Iraq?
No. Not without evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
Do you consider the immense brutality of the Saddam
Hussein regime to be a good reason for the US to invade Iraq?
Not by ourselves. No.
Do you consider the immense brutality of the Saddam Hussein regime to
be a good reason for the U.S. & Britain to invade Iraq?
No. Once we start doing this, we are left with the problem of who's deciding
what is "immense brutality" is. I'm sure there are nations who'd consider
what the US is doing as "immense brutality". Is that a good reason for them
to invade the US?
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