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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Lloyd Parker"
Date: 06 Sep 2004 06:00:44 AM
Object: Re: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY
In article <3965eb5d.0409052110.bcefb99@posting.google.com>,
(Al) wrote:

"MrD" <nachobiznez@all.com> wrote in message

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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Sep 2004 14:56:20 -0700,

(Al) wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message

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On 3 Sep 2004 08:44:38 -0700,

(Al) wrote:

Liberals are more likely to be single.


Citations?


much of the resistance comes from
parents who are horrified over the grotesque burden of debt that

this

profligate fool is passing on down to the future --


Like the debt Reagan passed to us? Yea, that was really troubling
during the Bush and Clinton administrations, wasn't it?


Yes, it was. Thankfully, Bill Clinton got rid of it,


How did Bill Clinton get rid of it?


By exercising fiscal prudence, something Reagan and Bush senior
apparently never heard of. Did you sleep through the 90s?


To be fair, Raven, I think quite a bit of credit should go to the

economic

growth of the 90s. The stockmarket boom not only made people fortunes,

it

made for big tax revenue increases. Everyone was happy with that. I
certainly don't mind paying taxes when I am making easy money. It's a

shame

the Bush Administration decided they had to pay off their supporters

with

big tax cuts right when the economy was turning the other way. Then the
9-11 event really tanked the stock market, creating a tax revenue crash.
Bush didn't let that stop him from paying off, though. Now we have

deficit

spending rather than 'pay as you go' that the Republicans are always

talking

about being for, but only after they get their money back first.


You're funny. You understand that a booming economy fixes the ills of
the deficit then you turn around and miss the fact that putting more
money into the economy makes it boom.

Except it hasn't. Jobs are down, real wages are down, the stock market is
down. There's no evidence the rich invested their windfall tax cuts. The
poor and middle class would have spent more, and stimulated the economy
more.
.

User: "Belmont"

Title: Re: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY 06 Sep 2004 12:41:18 PM
Lloyd Parker wrote:

In article <3965eb5d.0409052110.bcefb99@posting.google.com>,

(Al) wrote:

"MrD" <nachobiznez@all.com> wrote in message


news:<chdppa$d0q$1@news.netins.net>...

"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:j3lkj01k6d9nk0ubmraahmts4mkj71taij@4ax.com...

On 4 Sep 2004 14:56:20 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message


news:<6skhj0l0orvogln641skq2em0gr18b2cr0@4ax.com>...

On 3 Sep 2004 08:44:38 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


Liberals are more likely to be single.


Citations?


much of the resistance comes from
parents who are horrified over the grotesque burden of debt that


this

profligate fool is passing on down to the future --


Like the debt Reagan passed to us? Yea, that was really troubling
during the Bush and Clinton administrations, wasn't it?


Yes, it was. Thankfully, Bill Clinton got rid of it,


How did Bill Clinton get rid of it?


By exercising fiscal prudence, something Reagan and Bush senior
apparently never heard of. Did you sleep through the 90s?


To be fair, Raven, I think quite a bit of credit should go to the


economic

growth of the 90s. The stockmarket boom not only made people fortunes,


it

made for big tax revenue increases. Everyone was happy with that. I
certainly don't mind paying taxes when I am making easy money. It's a


shame

the Bush Administration decided they had to pay off their supporters


with

big tax cuts right when the economy was turning the other way. Then the
9-11 event really tanked the stock market, creating a tax revenue crash.
Bush didn't let that stop him from paying off, though. Now we have


deficit

spending rather than 'pay as you go' that the Republicans are always


talking

about being for, but only after they get their money back first.


You're funny. You understand that a booming economy fixes the ills of
the deficit then you turn around and miss the fact that putting more
money into the economy makes it boom.


The poor and middle class would have spent more

How many new jobs would the poor have created?
.
User: "MrD"

Title: Re: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY 06 Sep 2004 01:11:38 PM
"Belmont" <belmont@stakes.de> wrote in message
news:2q3lqeFqql68U1@uni-berlin.de...

Lloyd Parker wrote:

In article <3965eb5d.0409052110.bcefb99@posting.google.com>,

(Al) wrote:

"MrD" <nachobiznez@all.com> wrote in message


news:<chdppa$d0q$1@news.netins.net>...

"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:j3lkj01k6d9nk0ubmraahmts4mkj71taij@4ax.com...

On 4 Sep 2004 14:56:20 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message


news:<6skhj0l0orvogln641skq2em0gr18b2cr0@4ax.com>...

On 3 Sep 2004 08:44:38 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


Liberals are more likely to be single.


Citations?


much of the resistance comes from
parents who are horrified over the grotesque burden of debt that


this

profligate fool is passing on down to the future --


Like the debt Reagan passed to us? Yea, that was really troubling
during the Bush and Clinton administrations, wasn't it?


Yes, it was. Thankfully, Bill Clinton got rid of it,


How did Bill Clinton get rid of it?


By exercising fiscal prudence, something Reagan and Bush senior
apparently never heard of. Did you sleep through the 90s?


To be fair, Raven, I think quite a bit of credit should go to the


economic

growth of the 90s. The stockmarket boom not only made people fortunes,


it

made for big tax revenue increases. Everyone was happy with that. I
certainly don't mind paying taxes when I am making easy money. It's a


shame

the Bush Administration decided they had to pay off their supporters


with

big tax cuts right when the economy was turning the other way. Then

the

9-11 event really tanked the stock market, creating a tax revenue

crash.

Bush didn't let that stop him from paying off, though. Now we have


deficit

spending rather than 'pay as you go' that the Republicans are always


talking

about being for, but only after they get their money back first.


You're funny. You understand that a booming economy fixes the ills of
the deficit then you turn around and miss the fact that putting more
money into the economy makes it boom.


The poor and middle class would have spent more


How many new jobs would the poor have created?

Learn something about supply and demand.
.

User: "Lloyd Parker"

Title: Re: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY 06 Sep 2004 09:10:01 AM
In article <2q3lqeFqql68U1@uni-berlin.de>, Belmont <belmont@stakes.de>
wrote:

Lloyd Parker wrote:

In article <3965eb5d.0409052110.bcefb99@posting.google.com>,

(Al) wrote:

"MrD" <nachobiznez@all.com> wrote in message


news:<chdppa$d0q$1@news.netins.net>...

"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:j3lkj01k6d9nk0ubmraahmts4mkj71taij@4ax.com...

On 4 Sep 2004 14:56:20 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message


news:<6skhj0l0orvogln641skq2em0gr18b2cr0@4ax.com>...

On 3 Sep 2004 08:44:38 -0700,

(Al) wrote:


Liberals are more likely to be single.


Citations?


much of the resistance comes from
parents who are horrified over the grotesque burden of debt that


this

profligate fool is passing on down to the future --


Like the debt Reagan passed to us? Yea, that was really troubling
during the Bush and Clinton administrations, wasn't it?


Yes, it was. Thankfully, Bill Clinton got rid of it,


How did Bill Clinton get rid of it?


By exercising fiscal prudence, something Reagan and Bush senior
apparently never heard of. Did you sleep through the 90s?


To be fair, Raven, I think quite a bit of credit should go to the


economic

growth of the 90s. The stockmarket boom not only made people fortunes,


it

made for big tax revenue increases. Everyone was happy with that. I
certainly don't mind paying taxes when I am making easy money. It's a


shame

the Bush Administration decided they had to pay off their supporters


with

big tax cuts right when the economy was turning the other way. Then

the

9-11 event really tanked the stock market, creating a tax revenue

crash.

Bush didn't let that stop him from paying off, though. Now we have


deficit

spending rather than 'pay as you go' that the Republicans are always


talking

about being for, but only after they get their money back first.


You're funny. You understand that a booming economy fixes the ills of
the deficit then you turn around and miss the fact that putting more
money into the economy makes it boom.


The poor and middle class would have spent more


How many new jobs would the poor have created?

Well, the rich have created a negative 1 million (actually the job loss is
1.6 million in the private sector). I'm willing to give others a shot.
.



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