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"No laws" |
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21 Dec 2003 06:22:34 PM |
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Re: Gore's son arrested |
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:55:44 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<kgkFb.49512$Ug6.28153@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
The 21-year-old son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore
has been charged with marijuana possession.
source:MSNBC
Too bad Spitfire's not around to explain how this is different from Bush's
drunk daughters...
Bush's daughters were all 18+ when they got nabbed with alcohol.
In South Africa that is not a crime. Anyone aged 18 or older may possess and
consume alcohol.
so it's easy to see from this simple example how silly and arbitrary laws
are.
modern society has enacted a whole host of totally ridiculous laws which
stipulate a specific age. clearly they are completely ridiculous because
what changes in a day? a person aged one day younger than 18 may not legally
consume alcohol.
any law which artificially recognises 1 day as being significant is
ridiculous.
it's therefore not possible to stipulate any ages in laws without making an
***** of the law.
we should just have ZERO laws, then we can be guaranteed that no stupid laws
will be enacted.
I'm sure he'll play on the fake ID or age angle. He lives
in LA, where marijuana is considered not only legal, but required. It's also
funny that the liberal mud slingers who've been acting like it is George's
own fault his daughters are drunk, like some sort of 'environmental' thing,
will play down that angle in Gore's son's case.
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
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Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "marvin" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
22 Dec 2003 08:20:34 AM |
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"No laws" <hedge@bush.com> wrote in message
news:h1ubuvc1imc4ci50sam03cf2ip6fmhq9d9@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:55:44 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<kgkFb.49512$Ug6.28153@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
The 21-year-old son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic
presidential candidate Al Gore
has been charged with marijuana possession.
source:MSNBC
Too bad Spitfire's not around to explain how this is different from
Bush's
drunk daughters...
Bush's daughters were all 18+ when they got nabbed with alcohol.
In South Africa that is not a crime. Anyone aged 18 or older may possess
and
consume alcohol.
so it's easy to see from this simple example how silly and arbitrary laws
are.
modern society has enacted a whole host of totally ridiculous laws which
stipulate a specific age. clearly they are completely ridiculous because
what changes in a day? a person aged one day younger than 18 may not
legally
consume alcohol.
any law which artificially recognises 1 day as being significant is
ridiculous.
it's therefore not possible to stipulate any ages in laws without making
an
***** of the law.
we should just have ZERO laws, then we can be guaranteed that no stupid
laws
will be enacted.
I'm sure he'll play on the fake ID or age angle. He lives
in LA, where marijuana is considered not only legal, but required. It's
also
funny that the liberal mud slingers who've been acting like it is
George's
own fault his daughters are drunk, like some sort of 'environmental'
thing,
will play down that angle in Gore's son's case.
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
that's right - in free and civilized countries 18 year olds can legally
drink!
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
21 Dec 2003 06:28:18 PM |
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"No laws" <hedge@bush.com> wrote in message news:h1ubuvc1imc4ci50sam03cf2ip6fmhq9d9@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:55:44 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<kgkFb.49512$Ug6.28153@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
The 21-year-old son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al
Gore
has been charged with marijuana possession.
source:MSNBC
Too bad Spitfire's not around to explain how this is different from Bush's
drunk daughters...
Bush's daughters were all 18+ when they got nabbed with alcohol.
In South Africa that is not a crime. Anyone aged 18 or older may possess and
consume alcohol.
When I was young it was 18 here as well, because my generation vigorously
petitioned Congress to demand 18 as the legal age for drinking and voting.
But any "right" is just as quickly lost if it is not demanded. This is one of the
greatest stupidities of current modern thinking. People think "rights" are
something naturally theirs which the Government takes away.
so it's easy to see from this simple example how silly and arbitrary laws
are.
modern society has enacted a whole host of totally ridiculous laws which
stipulate a specific age. clearly they are completely ridiculous because
what changes in a day? a person aged one day younger than 18 may not legally
consume alcohol.
any law which artificially recognises 1 day as being significant is
ridiculous.
it's therefore not possible to stipulate any ages in laws without making an
***** of the law.
we should just have ZERO laws, then we can be guaranteed that no stupid laws
will be enacted.
I'm sure he'll play on the fake ID or age angle. He lives
in LA, where marijuana is considered not only legal, but required. It's also
funny that the liberal mud slingers who've been acting like it is George's
own fault his daughters are drunk, like some sort of 'environmental' thing,
will play down that angle in Gore's son's case.
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
*******************************
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http://www.atjfaq.com
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| User: "petitioner" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
22 Dec 2003 08:01:30 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:28:18 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<CUqFb.54515$Ug6.47207@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
"No laws" <hedge@bush.com> wrote in message news:h1ubuvc1imc4ci50sam03cf2ip6fmhq9d9@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:55:44 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
The 21-year-old son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al
Gore
has been charged with marijuana possession.
source:MSNBC
Too bad Spitfire's not around to explain how this is different from Bush's
drunk daughters...
Bush's daughters were all 18+ when they got nabbed with alcohol.
In South Africa that is not a crime. Anyone aged 18 or older may possess and
consume alcohol.
When I was young it was 18 here as well, because my generation vigorously
petitioned Congress to demand 18 as the legal age for drinking and voting.
But any "right" is just as quickly lost if it is not demanded. This is one of the
greatest stupidities of current modern thinking. People think "rights" are
something naturally theirs which the Government takes away.
well it's always been 18 here and no one needed to petition anyone.
when the ANC was elected in 1994, they dropped censorship of porno and the
2-21 age restriction @ movies.
it seems your government does indeed take away your freedoms all the time.
again, i'm so glad i am not a US citizen.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
22 Dec 2003 02:28:42 PM |
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"petitioner" <petty@laws.com> wrote in message
news:j2uduvca6miaajt15dane82pj0ga71hl8j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:28:18 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
<CUqFb.54515$Ug6.47207@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
"No laws" <hedge@bush.com> wrote in message
news:h1ubuvc1imc4ci50sam03cf2ip6fmhq9d9@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:55:44 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
The 21-year-old son of former vice president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al
Gore
has been charged with marijuana possession.
source:MSNBC
Too bad Spitfire's not around to explain how this is different from Bush's
drunk daughters...
Bush's daughters were all 18+ when they got nabbed with alcohol.
In South Africa that is not a crime. Anyone aged 18 or older may possess and
consume alcohol.
When I was young it was 18 here as well, because my generation vigorously
petitioned Congress to demand 18 as the legal age for drinking and voting.
But any "right" is just as quickly lost if it is not demanded. This is one of the
greatest stupidities of current modern thinking. People think "rights" are
something naturally theirs which the Government takes away.
well it's always been 18 here and no one needed to petition anyone.
when the ANC was elected in 1994, they dropped censorship of porno and the
2-21 age restriction @ movies.
it seems your government does indeed take away your freedoms all the time.
again, i'm so glad i am not a US citizen.
Again, so are we.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "omega" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
21 Dec 2003 06:45:49 PM |
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how do you feel that they should contribute to the society you subscribe to
and not just take from it .......
omega
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
*******************************
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
21 Dec 2003 07:00:33 PM |
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"omega" <useless@this.com> wrote in message
news:QarFb.82$Q62.335802@newsfep2-gui.server.ntli.net...
how do you feel that they should contribute to the society you subscribe to
and not just take from it .......
That was never at issue here. People are far more complex and robust than
typically depicted by the media. For example, Ulysses S. Grant was a giant
on the battlefield, and an unkempt drunk at the same time. For many years,
historical analysts even tried to depict Robert E. Lee as a better general,
perhaps on no more footing than his being a "sober gentleman". Yet more
recently, military analysts have stated in no uncertain terms that Grant was
a military genius and by far the better general, drunk slob or not. On the
other hand, he made a notably mediocre President. But hold the presses
one moment. Abe Lincoln, the model of moral virtuosity and Christian
faith, was well known to tell many an off color joke, and make sarcastic
remarks about others, and a fairly reliable historical artifact records a
meeting between Grant and Lincoln, when Grant scolded Lincoln for
attempting to tell a dirty joke. Grant was known to never swear or ridicule.
Yet he took every sort of bribe that came his way while President. This
barely scratches the surface of this example, and it is the same for everyone.
I'm confident that even Mad Max has some redeeming virtue, although he
keeps it well hidden.
omega
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
27 Dec 2003 01:17:19 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:00:33 GMT, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:
"omega" <useless@this.com> wrote in message
news:QarFb.82$Q62.335802@newsfep2-gui.server.ntli.net...
how do you feel that they should contribute to the society you subscribe to
and not just take from it .......
That was never at issue here. People are far more complex and robust than
typically depicted by the media. For example, Ulysses S. Grant was a giant
on the battlefield, and an unkempt drunk at the same time. For many years,
historical analysts even tried to depict Robert E. Lee as a better general,
perhaps on no more footing than his being a "sober gentleman". Yet more
recently, military analysts have stated in no uncertain terms that Grant was
a military genius and by far the better general, drunk slob or not. On the
other hand, he made a notably mediocre President. But hold the presses
one moment. Abe Lincoln, the model of moral virtuosity and Christian
faith, was well known to tell many an off color joke, and make sarcastic
remarks about others, and a fairly reliable historical artifact records a
meeting between Grant and Lincoln, when Grant scolded Lincoln for
attempting to tell a dirty joke. Grant was known to never swear or ridicule.
Yet he took every sort of bribe that came his way while President. This
barely scratches the surface of this example, and it is the same for everyone.
I'm confident that even Mad Max has some redeeming virtue, although he
keeps it well hidden.
He produces a lot of CO2 for the plants to enjoy. That's about it,
though.
--
V.G.
"People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it is easier to harrass
rich women than it is motorcycle gangs." - Bumper Sticker
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "Pretty man" |
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22 Dec 2003 08:01:10 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:45:49 -0000, "omega" <useless@this.com> wrote in
message <QarFb.82$Q62.335802@newsfep2-gui.server.ntli.net>:
i don't care about the habits of Gore's son and Bush's daughters. Let them
smoke and drink as much as they like. it is not my business, it is theirs.
it is not society's business it is theirs.
how do you feel that they should contribute to the society you subscribe to
and not just take from it .......
why should anyone contribute to society? ***** society.
--
Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
23 Dec 2003 12:16:37 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:01:10 +0200, "Pretty man"
<fart.in.the.wind@buttocks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
why should anyone contribute to society? ***** society.
Then you don't believe in taking anything from society, right?
--
"Creationists are the best evidence we have that there is no intelligent design."
-Josef Balluch
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Extinction" |
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23 Dec 2003 08:23:09 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:16:37 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
message <adnfuv8hi2qmbgqm576lvtdnu3o63ilcfc@Pern.rk>:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:01:10 +0200, "Pretty man"
<fart.in.the.wind@buttocks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
why should anyone contribute to society? ***** society.
Then you don't believe in taking anything from society, right?
society is filled with individuals who act like sheep and who expect others
to want to belong to their flock.
when they realise that a person doesn't want to conform to their flock's
norms, they reject him, kill him, imprison him and / or subject him to
various persecutions.
that is human history in a nutshell.
those norms change all the time. what is wrong for one society at one time
is completely fine for another society at perhaps another time.
it's the reason why your country was founded in the first place. but it is
still subject to the same problem because the problem is internal to human
beings.
wherever humans go, they take that same problem - intolerance of those who
refuse to conform to their norms.
based on that, I have come to the conclusion that the only solution is the
extermination of the human race. i believe that humanity is going to achieve
that.
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Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Gore's son arrested |
23 Dec 2003 07:57:23 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:23:09 +0200, "Extinction" <doomed@to.failure>
posted in alt.atheism:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:16:37 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
message <adnfuv8hi2qmbgqm576lvtdnu3o63ilcfc@Pern.rk>:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:01:10 +0200, "Pretty man"
<fart.in.the.wind@buttocks.com> posted in alt.atheism:
why should anyone contribute to society? ***** society.
Then you don't believe in taking anything from society, right?
[non sequitur snipped]
So why are you using society's usenet? Hypocrisy? Or stupidity?
based on that, I have come to the conclusion that the only solution is the
extermination of the human race.
Blow your brains out. The end result, for you, is the same.
--
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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| User: "Slit yer throat" |
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24 Dec 2003 02:37:48 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:57:23 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
message <dhshuvcumna678167o24ccaaou00ed12sk@Pern.rk>:
Blow your brains out. The end result, for you, is the same.
....slit yer throat...
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Adolf Hitler
Der Führer
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