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"AvianFlu" |
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31 Oct 2005 08:15:56 PM |
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Re: Happy Halloween! |
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
01 Nov 2005 11:11:06 AM |
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"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
01 Nov 2005 11:35:54 AM |
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At my house, we have decided to combine Christmas and Halloween this
year. I think I'll call it Christoween. So on December 25th, everyone
will have to at minimum wear angel wings. I plan on being a Pirate
Angel, my GF will be Glinda, the good witch, one of my daughters will
be a Hula Hooping Anime Angel. We'll probably throw in some Festivus
traditions, like the Airing of the Grievances (even though we have
declared our house a Drama Queen Free Zone).
Atheists enjoy holidays and parties as much as anyone, it's just that
the theists have coopted most of the days off so that we appear to
celebrate their delusions by circumstance only.
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| User: "AvianFlu" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
01 Nov 2005 05:47:35 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught
in public schools.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
02 Nov 2005 09:55:14 AM |
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"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
news:ydA9f.1369$hL6.279612@news.sisna.com...
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in
December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught
in public schools.
I fail to see what the celebration of holidays has to do with what's being
taught in public schools.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Expozem DeSoona DeBetta" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
02 Nov 2005 10:10:00 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"AvianFlu" *JABRIOL* <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in
December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught
in public schools.
I fail to see what the celebration of holidays has to do with what's being
taught in public schools.
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There is no connection. This is the same old argument Jabber's has been
using here on Usenet for attention for years. It's getting very hard for
these people to find new recruits since the Internet became available to so
many people. It's not the schools that are pointing out the absurdity of
religion, but the Internet and educational TV - two things they can't do
anything about.
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Elz.............
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
01 Nov 2005 06:51:29 PM |
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"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
news:ydA9f.1369$hL6.279612@news.sisna.com...
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in
December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught in
public schools.
Then, certainly, rhinoceroses don't eat cement...
What? Mine is as relevant as your conclusion.
JR
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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01 Nov 2005 06:42:03 PM |
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Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed
his young daughter (his only child)
by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
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"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in
December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught in
public schools.
Then, certainly, rhinoceroses don't eat cement...
What? Mine is as relevant as your conclusion.
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We can always teach the kids the planet was seeded from a galaxy far, far
away....... it actually makes more sense than a sky pixie with a magic wand
creating everything from nothing (but taking all night to dislocate Jacob's
leg.). Perfectly sane people have claimed to see UFOs such as police
officers, teachers and others. No one sane has ever claimed to see the old
Hebrew god Jehovah flying about.
CR..........
Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they
killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings - Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur,
and Reba - died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the
sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children
(god thought this was ok. If these women bore infants worthy of being
murdered by dashing on stones what good were they?) and seized their cattle
and flocks (what happened to thou shalt not steal?) and all their wealth as
plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had
lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and
animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the
whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the
Jordan River, across from Jericho.
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| User: "Nevermore" |
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| Title: Re: Happy Halloween! |
02 Nov 2005 03:15:19 PM |
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In <436802d0$0$20275$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com> Cracklin' wrote:
Perfectly sane people have claimed to see UFOs such as police
officers, teachers and others.
Why is there any presumption that police officers - and especially
teachers - are sane?
I can honestly say that several of my grade school and high school
teachers have to rank among the craziest people I've ever met.
Nevermore
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| User: "Jeff" |
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22 Nov 2005 10:10:22 PM |
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I haven't been following this thread at all, but this comment caught my
eye...
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught
in public schools.
I.D. is not an alternative to evolution. One of it's major downfalls
is it's lack of a plan for experimental verification. Having the
ability to test hypotheses and accept the findings is the hallmark of
any good scientific endeavor. An idea doesn't rise to the distinction
of being a scientific theory unless it has been tested through repeated
experiments and found to be the strongest explanation of how we think
things work. It is, in my humble opinion, beyond the capability of any
scientist to formulate an effective plan for testing to see if God left
any fingerprints.
Furthermore, evolution as a theory is actually much stronger now than
it ever has been in history. I suggest checking out some of the
material at www.asa3.org, which is the site of "a fellowship of men and
women in science and disciplines that relate to science who share a
common fidelity to the Word of God and a commitment to integrity in the
practice of science." While I'm sure not every member of the
association is pro-evolution, there are quite a few who are
anti-creationist/anti-intelligent-design. Also, check out some of the
material on the web about developments in evolution over the past 10
years. It might interest you to know that we've gained more insights
into the fossil record in the past decade than we have in the entire
history of evolutionary theory.
I.D. is an irrelevant and needless attempt to marry science and
religion. Each has it's purpose, and needn't be in contention. The
Bible wasn't meant to be read as a scientific textbook. It's purpose
is to describe man's relationship with the divine from a certain point
of view, and to impart moral truth as it's authors understood it.
Final note - what you said had nothing whatsoever to do with the post
you quoted. Following a tradition because it's fun is not the same
thing as endorsing/subscribing to a religious viewpoint, and your
comment was completely off-topic.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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01 Nov 2005 06:00:45 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:47:35 -0500, AvianFlu <got@acold.us> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
news:ydA9f.1369$hL6.279612@news.sisna.com...
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
Sure, why not?
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
Then, it shouldn't bother for an alternative to evolution to be taught
in public schools.
Can you say "non-sequitur"? Do you even know what that means?
Do you understand the unconstitutionality of teaching YOUR religion to
MY kids?
Do you understand the difference between religion and science?
Do you understand the dishonesty of ID?
Do you understand that there is zero, zip, zilch, nothing that leads
to the conclusion of design because there is nothing natural at the
"designer of everything" level in order to determine design vs
natural?
Do you understand that you have nothing to teach?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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01 Nov 2005 11:30:17 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"AvianFlu" <got@acold.us> wrote in message
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DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two
different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and conversation. I
hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
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Sure, why not?
# You're replying to Jabbers who doesn't know the difference between an
agnostic and an atheist. Anyway, who cares if it was ONCE a religious
holiday? That was ages ago. They sure don't care if their members were
once sinners as long as they tow the WTS party-line. The kids love it and
the adults get to visit for a few hours. It's harmless fun for everyone.
JWs are taught this is some kind of sin worthy of being cast in a
lake-o-fire. JW children are deprived of all the joys of childhood.
I get together with family/friends at Christmas as well - Just don't
celebrate the birth of Jesus (which everyone knows didn't happen in
December
anyway and was originally the Winter Solstice).
# There ya go! :-)
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
# I love your sigfile! :-)))
CR .............
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of
Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin
returned to their homes, and the four hundred (kidnapped at god's command)
women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives (forced
in to sexual slavery. No thought given to how they felt or wanted. They
were treated like animals). But there were not enough women for all of them
(What happened to all their women? Bred to death like brood mares?). The
people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the
tribes of Israel (the Lord took their women?). So the Israelite leaders
asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of
the tribe of Benjamin are dead (who killed them?)? There must be heirs for
the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever.
But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn
with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
(Rule with FEAR and superstition.... how quaint)
~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@ ~~<~~<~~{@
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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01 Nov 2005 11:59:15 AM |
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on 31 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet AvianFlu (got@acold.us) made
the light shine upon us with this:
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and
conversation. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
I hardly think of Halloween as a religious holiday. Nobody prays to any
gods on Halloween, not even my fundy neighbor across the street.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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"The world is only 5-6 thousand years old does not mean the planet
earth is only 5-6 thousand years old. There have been many worlds
created and destroyed on this planet. The creation of the planet is
described in Genesis 1. The creation of the world is described in
Genesis 2. Two different kind of creations." --Eric Brze
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| User: "Katt" |
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01 Nov 2005 01:31:12 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
I hardly think of Halloween as a religious holiday. Nobody prays to any
gods on Halloween, not even my fundy neighbor across the street.
And on December 25th, I, for one, will be wishing all atheists everywhere a
*Happy Christ-Myth*...!!!
:-)
Katt.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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02 Nov 2005 09:29:01 AM |
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"Katt" <kahgfghttt@t.com> wrote in message
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
I hardly think of Halloween as a religious holiday. Nobody prays to any
gods on Halloween, not even my fundy neighbor across the street.
And on December 25th, I, for one, will be wishing all atheists everywhere
a
*Happy Christ-Myth*...!!!
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Where do we agnostics fit in? ;-)
--
CR........
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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02 Nov 2005 10:32:20 AM |
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:29:01 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"Katt" <kahgfghttt@t.com> wrote in message
news:4oP9f.22712$Ce5.8466@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns970165DDABD09vicman@
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
I hardly think of Halloween as a religious holiday. Nobody prays to any
gods on Halloween, not even my fundy neighbor across the street.
And on December 25th, I, for one, will be wishing all atheists everywhere
a
*Happy Christ-Myth*...!!!
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Where do we agnostics fit in? ;-)
You don't know.
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| User: "AvianFlu" |
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01 Nov 2005 05:50:45 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
on 31 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet AvianFlu (got@acold.us) made
the light shine upon us with this:
DeEler Expoza wrote:
I'm wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. :-) We had a good time and
two different parties this year. Lots of food, fun and
conversation. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did.
Eler.............
an atheist celebrating a religious holiday?
I hardly think of Halloween as a religious holiday. Nobody prays to any
gods on Halloween, not even my fundy neighbor across the street.
Are you sure?
Linus wait for the great pumpkin every year.
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