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"david ford" |
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02 Jul 2004 08:16:23 PM |
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Re: Harun Yahya and Holocaust denial |
Mark Isaak <eciton@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote in message news:<3fq0e0dqp54l5978n3jc7ad9tb2c0uvc7n@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 03:41:29 +0000 (UTC), (david ford) wrote:
Harlequin <usenet@cox.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951143517936usenet123mmcablecom@68.12.19.6>...
The official English version of Harun Yahya's Holocaust
denial book is online. It is in the form of a PDF
that is ZIPed.
http://www.harunyahya.com/download/download.php?id=13985
Those who are interested might grab a copy since it being
noticed might result in it being removed. Needless
to say, it _is_ a Holocaust denying book.
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_books.php
has more books. He appears to be an Islamic intelligent design person.
Nearly all of his (their?) arguments are copied directly from American
creationists. In particular, the ICR and Jonathan Wells seem to be
major sources.
In his 1999 _The Evolution Deceit: The Scientific Collapse of
Darwinism and Its Ideological Background_, 8th ed. (United Kingdom:
Ta-Ha Publishers Ltd.), 266pp., 37, he has a picture of Behe and
quotes a good number of Behe sentences.
On 49, he presents the front covers of 10 of the [Yahya]"many books on
the invalidity of the theory" of evolution, only 1 book of which is by
an ICR-type person.
I find it interesting that Yahya got his start as a
prominent creationist not long after the ICR went to Turkey to spread
their message.
Simply because one event follows another, that does not necessarily
mean that the two events are causally linked.
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| User: "david ford" |
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| Title: Re: Harun Yahya and Holocaust denial |
03 Jul 2004 07:29:22 PM |
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Mark Isaak <eciton@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote in message news:<cusde0p5urvdsuvaas2ksg3si891fmc8aa@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 13:04:40 +0000 (UTC), (david ford) wrote:
[MI]"Yahya's books contain ICR's arguments." Is Yahya a YEC?
He doesn't use *all* of their arguments. Duh.
Yahya uses this argument, which the ICR and YECists don't use:
Yahya, Harun. _The Evolution Deceit: The Scientific Collapse of
Darwinism and Its Ideological Background_, 6th ed. From the online
Word version of the book, freely available at
http://evolutiondeceit.com/books.php
Constituting as it does the philosophical underpinnings of
the theory of evolution, 19th-century materialism suggested
that the universe existed since eternity, that it was not
created, and that the organic world could be explained in
terms of the interactions of matter. The discoveries of
20th-century science however have completely invalidated
these hypotheses.
The supposition that the universe has existed since eternity
was blown away by the discovery that the universe
originated from a great explosion (the so-called "Big
Bang") that took place nearly 15 billion years ago. The Big
Bang shows that all physical substances in the universe
came into being out of nothing: in other words, they were
created. One of the foremost advocates of materialism, the
atheist philosopher Anthony Flew concedes:
1982 Richard Morris, 1992 Antony Flew
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990311073639.27782B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu
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