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User: "david ford"
Date: 09 Oct 2004 12:51:10 PM
Object: Re: Help with an argument
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<obmbm09j23fm75jbc1lqvahb90oq4fuke7@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC), John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:

[...]

Let us suppose that aliens brought these "ready-to-replicate" cells to
earth, or that a meteor brought them to earth in their complex forms.
This idea is actually circling and considered in modern academia.


Hardly. There are a few adherents, but they are generally considered to
be nuts, just a few steps better than regular creationists.


That may be a little harsh, since Francis Crick and Leslie E. Orgel flirted
with the idea for a while back in the 80s. Crick's _Life Itself_ argued
that directed panspermia was a legitimate "theory", as well as advocating
that we should do the same. He did keep a decent level of skepticism and
never argued that evolution was imposssible or that it couldn't explain the
history of life on Earth, however.

[JP]"He [Crick] did keep a decent level of skepticism"
Correct: Crick even signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto III.
Reference:
"Original signatories" linked to from
http://www.americanhumanist.org/3/HumandItsAspirations.htm
.

User: "catshark"

Title: Re: Help with an argument 09 Oct 2004 04:12:21 PM
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 17:51:10 +0000 (UTC),
(david ford)
wrote:

catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<obmbm09j23fm75jbc1lqvahb90oq4fuke7@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC), John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:

[...]

Let us suppose that aliens brought these "ready-to-replicate" cells to
earth, or that a meteor brought them to earth in their complex forms.
This idea is actually circling and considered in modern academia.


Hardly. There are a few adherents, but they are generally considered to
be nuts, just a few steps better than regular creationists.


That may be a little harsh, since Francis Crick and Leslie E. Orgel flirted
with the idea for a while back in the 80s. Crick's _Life Itself_ argued
that directed panspermia was a legitimate "theory", as well as advocating
that we should do the same. He did keep a decent level of skepticism and
never argued that evolution was imposssible or that it couldn't explain the
history of life on Earth, however.


[JP]"He [Crick] did keep a decent level of skepticism"
Correct: Crick even signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto III.
Reference:
"Original signatories" linked to from
http://www.americanhumanist.org/3/HumandItsAspirations.htm

Why, yes he did. And? . . .
--
---------------
J. Pieret
---------------
All superstition is much the same . . .
the deluded believers
observe events which are fulfilled,
but neglect and pass over their failure,
though it be much more common.
- Francis Bacon -
.
User: "david ford"

Title: Re: Help with an argument 10 Oct 2004 12:36:00 PM
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cgkgm0179fj8a7n7v9uhtrf4q7d84oidoq@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004

(david ford) wrote:

catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<obmbm09j23fm75jbc1lqvahb90oq4fuke7@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC), John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:

[...]

Let us suppose that aliens brought these "ready-to-replicate" cells to
earth, or that a meteor brought them to earth in their complex forms.
This idea is actually circling and considered in modern academia.


Hardly. There are a few adherents, but they are generally considered to
be nuts, just a few steps better than regular creationists.


That may be a little harsh, since Francis Crick and Leslie E. Orgel flirted
with the idea for a while back in the 80s. Crick's _Life Itself_ argued
that directed panspermia was a legitimate "theory", as well as advocating
that we should do the same. He did keep a decent level of skepticism and
never argued that evolution was imposssible or that it couldn't explain the
history of life on Earth, however.


[JP]"He [Crick] did keep a decent level of skepticism"
Correct: Crick even signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto III.
Reference:
"Original signatories" linked to from
http://www.americanhumanist.org/3/HumandItsAspirations.htm


Why, yes he did. And? . . .

And Crick signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto II.
Ref:
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/hum002.htm
.
User: "catshark"

Title: Re: Help with an argument 10 Oct 2004 07:04:36 PM
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:36:00 +0000 (UTC),
(david ford)
wrote:

catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cgkgm0179fj8a7n7v9uhtrf4q7d84oidoq@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004

(david ford) wrote:

catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<obmbm09j23fm75jbc1lqvahb90oq4fuke7@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC), John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:

[...]

Let us suppose that aliens brought these "ready-to-replicate" cells to
earth, or that a meteor brought them to earth in their complex forms.
This idea is actually circling and considered in modern academia.


Hardly. There are a few adherents, but they are generally considered to
be nuts, just a few steps better than regular creationists.


That may be a little harsh, since Francis Crick and Leslie E. Orgel flirted
with the idea for a while back in the 80s. Crick's _Life Itself_ argued
that directed panspermia was a legitimate "theory", as well as advocating
that we should do the same. He did keep a decent level of skepticism and
never argued that evolution was imposssible or that it couldn't explain the
history of life on Earth, however.


[JP]"He [Crick] did keep a decent level of skepticism"
Correct: Crick even signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto III.
Reference:
"Original signatories" linked to from
http://www.americanhumanist.org/3/HumandItsAspirations.htm


Why, yes he did. And? . . .


And Crick signed the creed known as Humanist Manifesto II.
Ref:
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/hum002.htm

Well, I'm not sure I trust that site you gave but I'll assume he did.
And? . . .
--
---------------
J. Pieret
---------------
In the name of the bee
And of the butterfly
And of the breeze, amen
- Emily Dickinson -
.




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