"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> writes:

"Puck Greenman" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:36:48 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:

So, the measure of love is between dying for those you love, i.e.
getting your children out of harm's way, or for your country as a soldier
etc. etc. and not willing to die for anyone or for any reason ever.

Mmm. So a man decides that the best he is ever going to do, is do
for his kids, given his earning ability, is to keep them fed.
Alive, he is worth a few dollars a week, but dead, he is worth half a
million, enough to get his kids a good education, and perhaps a small
nest egg, to start them out in life; So he steps in front of a fast
moving truck.
Is that love, Frank?

Christ dying for us is the proof of His love, without which surely no
one would have noticed Him to the extent people have.

We are still awaiting the evidence that he existed, never mind died,
and never mind if it was for us, or because he was a common criminal.

Post your atheism to atheist NGs Puck and stop trolling and spamming our
pristine Christian NGs. Look in the header above for the many choices you
have.

Pastor Frank the Lying Hypocrite strikes again.

darkstar@shell1.iglou.com (Keenan Clay Wilkie) wrote in message

"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> writes:

"Puck Greenman" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:36:48 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:

So, the measure of love is between dying for those you love,

getting your children out of harm's way, or for your country as a

etc. etc. and not willing to die for anyone or for any reason ever.

Mmm. So a man decides that the best he is ever going to do, is do
for his kids, given his earning ability, is to keep them fed.
Alive, he is worth a few dollars a week, but dead, he is worth half a
million, enough to get his kids a good education, and perhaps a small
nest egg, to start them out in life; So he steps in front of a fast
moving truck.
Is that love, Frank?

Christ dying for us is the proof of His love, without which

one would have noticed Him to the extent people have.

We are still awaiting the evidence that he existed, never mind died,
and never mind if it was for us, or because he was a common criminal.

Post your atheism to atheist NGs Puck and stop trolling and

pristine Christian NGs. Look in the header above for the many choices

have.

Pastor Frank the Lying Hypocrite strikes again.

Prince Lightwing Wrote:


An Understanding Of Belief Comes From The Concepts of Recognition and
That Means That The Recognition YOU Are Conceptualizing Is In Essence
Subject To Possibilities and Probabilities along with Theories In
Conjecture and Analysis.
Therefore, They ARE Temporal and Subjugated Against Reasononing.

When We Reason We Look For Facts and The Facts ARE Still Out On YOUR
Statements and I Would Caution YOU to look at the mitigataing
circumstance at the time of *Jesus* Birth. There Was Coming To The
Fulfilling Of The Measure Allotted By *GOD* and That Meant That *HIS*
Wrath Would Unleash Upon The Garden and "Cleanse The Garden" Of The
Iniquities Of Sin that Had Filled The Measure.

Therefore, We Should Look To The Reasoning Of "Why" Having The
"Redeemer Of Sins" Factor Into Our Lives AS Being Very Important For
US as A Whole. Now Understand This... If We Partake Of and Become
Part Of and Give Of The Things We Are In Cohabitation With then We
Could Be or ARE Doing Things That Are Not Allowed To Be Done IN "HIS"
*GARDEN* and That Means We ARE Considered Sinful.

Furthermore, It Means That The "ONLY" Way To *Avoid* Having "OUR" Book
Of Life Called *UP* Before "HIS" Court Of *FINAL* Justice "IS" To Be
*Redeemed* OF *OUR* Sins That We Have Accumulated In "OUR" Books Of
Life throughout A Life Span Of Avg. 75 years. This "IS" Where *JESUS*
Truly "IS" Needed By "ALL" Because Without The "Redeemer Of Sins"
Being Sought By "US" We "Will" Have To "Automatically" Have "OUR"
Books OF Life Reviewed By "HIS" Court Of *FINAL* Justice Because We
Live IN *HIS* Kingdom and Are Subjected To *HIS* Rules!

In Closing... I Ask "YOU" To Consider What "YOUR" Life *Truly* Means
To "YOU" Because "YOU" Will Be The "ONE" Who Will Have To Be
"Responsible" For That Decision You Willingly Made For Yourself and
Then "YOU" Will Have To Be "Accountable" For That Decision To *GOD*
Because "NONE" and I Truly Mean None Will Escape The Judgment Of *GOD*
and I Can "Personally Guarantee" This Statement As I Truly "Witnessed"
*HIS* Court Of *FINAL* Justice IN "Open Session" Rendering *Final*
Judgment On Some Soul Who Did "NOT" Respect The Privledge Of Living
Life IN The *KINGDOM* of "GOD"

Remember Having Just "ONE" Sin "IS" A *Violation* Against "HIS" Laws,
Statues, and Creeds and That Will Subject "ANYBODY" To "HIS"
*Judgment*. Your Choice?

Prince Lightwing (Faithfully Delivered *HIS* Message)