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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Kurt Nicklas"
Date: 15 Jun 2007 04:09:33 PM
Object: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War
On Jun 15, 12:07 pm, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gandalf Grey wrote:

Gorbachev: "No, actually it's worse than that, comrade. We must also cease
to exist as a country. Because of Reagan's build-up, we will henceforth be
breaking the Soviet Union into fifteen separate countries. And we, my
friends, no longer have our jobs, because the country we serve no longer
exists."


Entire cabinet: Gasps, sighs, general consternation. "But why?!?!"


Gorbachev: "Because, my short-sighted former comrades, there are important
myths to be served for the American right, and that, of course, is and must
be our first priority."


Cabinet: "Ohhhhh... well, yes, of course. Now that you put it that way..."


And that's the true story, improbable as it may seem, of how Ronald Reagan
won the Cold War. The meeting was adjourned. The Soviet Union was
demolished. And the heroic story of Reagan the Savior was preserved. Almost
as if it came out of some B-rate Hollywood western...
_______


Or... the people of the former USSR were given the right to free
elections and they voted communists out of power and the wall came
tumbling down.

Ziggers, this simply never happened. There was no such election. The
communists in the Soviet Union were not voted out of power. Read
about
the end of communism in the Soviet Union here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Coup_of_1991
Like so many other things, you have a fantasy version of history which
buttresses your ignorant biases. Get real. Learn some things.

Reagan and the American right wing still don't understand the greatness
of what America used to be - free. As we've seen in recent years free
elections can destroy us as fast as they destroyed the Soviet Union.

As the later is a figment of your imagination, there's a good chance
the former
is as well, right?

We
voted for fools and cowards and they used the power we gave them to
destroy the reputation of the United States and everything we ever stood
for.
The strongest weapon ever devised by man is called "free elections."

Communists don't allow free elections, Ziggs.

This weapon doesn't have to be dropped for it work but it needs people
to get off their collective asses and vote for new people. The Soviets
did it and so can we.

The Soviets never did.
We did. We put in Reagan instead of Dhimmi and won the Cold War.
.

User: "ike milligan"

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 16 Jun 2007 07:31:34 PM
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1181941773.094338.51520@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On Jun 15, 12:07 pm, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Gandalf Grey wrote:

Gorbachev: "No, actually it's worse than that, comrade. We must also
cease
to exist as a country. Because of Reagan's build-up, we will henceforth
be
breaking the Soviet Union into fifteen separate countries. And we, my
friends, no longer have our jobs, because the country we serve no
longer
exists."


Entire cabinet: Gasps, sighs, general consternation. "But why?!?!"


Gorbachev: "Because, my short-sighted former comrades, there are
important
myths to be served for the American right, and that, of course, is and
must
be our first priority."


Cabinet: "Ohhhhh... well, yes, of course. Now that you put it that
way..."


And that's the true story, improbable as it may seem, of how Ronald
Reagan
won the Cold War. The meeting was adjourned. The Soviet Union was
demolished. And the heroic story of Reagan the Savior was preserved.
Almost
as if it came out of some B-rate Hollywood western...
_______


Or... the people of the former USSR were given the right to free
elections and they voted communists out of power and the wall came
tumbling down.


Ziggers, this simply never happened. There was no such election. The
communists in the Soviet Union were not voted out of power. Read
about
the end of communism in the Soviet Union here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Coup_of_1991

Like so many other things, you have a fantasy version of history which
buttresses your ignorant biases. Get real. Learn some things.

Reagan and the American right wing still don't understand the greatness
of what America used to be - free. As we've seen in recent years free
elections can destroy us as fast as they destroyed the Soviet Union.


As the later is a figment of your imagination, there's a good chance
the former
is as well, right?

The Soviet Union figment of the imagination?

We
voted for fools and cowards and they used the power we gave them to
destroy the reputation of the United States and everything we ever stood
for.


The strongest weapon ever devised by man is called "free elections."


Communists don't allow free elections, Ziggs.

This weapon doesn't have to be dropped for it work but it needs people
to get off their collective asses and vote for new people. The Soviets
did it and so can we.


The Soviets never did.

We did. We put in Reagan instead of Dhimmi and won the Cold War.

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty in spite or because of,
spending more on its military than all other countries in the world
combined. And wasn't that the theory behind the myth that Reagan won the
Cold War, getting the USSR to spend more on the military than it could
afford, and now the U.S. is dong exactly that, in a vain attempt to make up
for loss of economic sovereignty and independence. The U.S. is now dependent
on China. Soon the U.S. will cease to function as a political entity.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 16 Jun 2007 08:04:58 PM
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:31:34 +0000, ike milligan wrote:

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty

Soon?
Bond traders pretty much run the US now...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
.
User: "ike milligan"

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 16 Jun 2007 10:14:51 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.17.01.04.57.529517@com.mkbilbo...

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:31:34 +0000, ike milligan wrote:

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty


Soon?

Bond traders pretty much run the US now...

Exactly my point even if I can't spell Reagan.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 17 Jun 2007 08:56:15 AM
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:14:51 GMT, "ike milligan"
<accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.17.01.04.57.529517@com.mkbilbo...

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:31:34 +0000, ike milligan wrote:

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty


Soon?

Bond traders pretty much run the US now...

Exactly my point even if I can't spell Reagan.

Try again---Spell it L-I-A-R
Fits better.


.
User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 17 Jun 2007 09:15:44 AM
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:14:51 GMT, "ike milligan"
<accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.06.17.01.04.57.529517@com.mkbilbo...

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:31:34 +0000, ike milligan wrote:

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty

Soon?

Bond traders pretty much run the US now...

Exactly my point even if I can't spell Reagan.


Try again---Spell it L-I-A-R

Fits better.

Yep, Reagan was an excellent liar, getting us to swallow supply-side
economics!
RCL
.



User: "Rich Corinthian Leather"

Title: Re: How Ronald Reagan Won the Cold War 17 Jun 2007 09:14:53 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:31:34 +0000, ike milligan wrote:

Teagan lost the cold war. reaganomics cuased the U.S. to give up economic
soveriegnty and will soon lose political sovereignty


Soon?

Bond traders pretty much run the US now...

Just who, do you think, buys the majority of those bonds? The Europeans,
Chinese, and Japanese do!
RCL
.




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