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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Lucifer"
Date: 28 May 2007 02:55:37 PM
Object: Re: How Would World Without Abortion Look Like?
On May 28, 7:28 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 28, 12:14 am, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:



On May 27, 10:09 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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On May 27, 8:56 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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On May 27, 5:24 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 26, 10:30 pm, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On May 27, 1:37 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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On May 26, 5:25 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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On May 25, 3:32 pm, Rudy Canoza <rudy-can...@excite.com>
wrote:

DanielSan wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

On 24 May 2007 06:35:05 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com> wrote:


There would be 48,000,000+ people in the United States
since Roe
v
Wade was
signed into law.


Stop lying, puke.


No, he almost certainly is not, you lying cocksucking
murderous
shitbag. Based on statistics by the Guttmacher
Institute,
there
were
38,000,000 abortions in the U.S. from 1973 just through
1998.
http://www.euthanasia.com/usstat.html. There easily have
been
10,000,000 since.


Stop lying, you gutless murderous shitbag.


Sorry, but abortion hasn't killed 38 million.


Yes, it has. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Yes, it is. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Tell us..biologically...what is a fetus???


Just a clump of cells?


It's a clump of cells with the capacity to develop further. So
what?


And guess what, maybe you missed this day in biology....


We are still a "clump of cells" before birth and after
birth..until
the day
we die...on, and with the capacity to develop further too...until
we
die.


Aborting it is no more killing than not having sex is.


Oh, so using your logic...murdering someone after birth is alright
too...because after all, we are only killing just a clump of
cells.


Clue: Your argument using biology to support feticide...is full
of
flaws.


You might want to get back to the chalkboard and think of
something
else.


You might want to try getting a fucking clue. Buy one if necessary.


A human being is, on the whole, conscious. A fetus isn't. An animal
is
closer to a human being than a fetus is.


I have heard the b.s. arguments before, and I know that in order for
you to support feticide you must hold on to that complete lack of
respect for the unborn and total insensitive nature. It's a shame
people like you are that insensitive, but I guess that's just a part
of nature. Some people care...some don't.


The fact that you compare a fetus to an animal says it all. If you
are a parent...I'm sorry for your children.


Hardly likely to be a parent am I? I'm only nineteen and responsible.


Not when you view the unborn as nothing more than an animal..I don't see
how
you could be responsible.


A human fetus is less conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


When you are born, and you are in an accident, and in a coma...you are less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


Should we just pull the plug and say the cat was worth more???


If I could recover? Then no, because the bundle of memories and
feelings that makes up who I am would still be intact. If I couldn't
recover and was brain dead? Well what the ***** do I care? do it.


It shouldn't matter to you if you could recover or not...because
according to your statement about a fetus...you would be less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.

Once again you refuse to actually read my point. If a human in a coma
is capable of recovery, they are much more than a fetus, as they still
maintain that core of experience and memory that is what makes up a
human being. While on hold, they are a person. That is something a
fetus lacks. Someone not functioning with no hope of recovery is,
arguably, dead already.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.

User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: How Would World Without Abortion Look Like? 28 May 2007 04:26:12 PM
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 28, 7:28 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 28, 12:14 am, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:



On May 27, 10:09 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180299315.626258.255420@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...


On May 27, 8:56 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180283944.436553.11460@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...


On May 27, 5:24 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 26, 10:30 pm, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On May 27, 1:37 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180223953.024132.74160@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...


On May 26, 5:25 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180196457.005226.25570@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...


On May 25, 3:32 pm, Rudy Canoza
<rudy-can...@excite.com>
wrote:

DanielSan wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

On 24 May 2007 06:35:05 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com> wrote:


There would be 48,000,000+ people in the United
States
since Roe
v
Wade was
signed into law.


Stop lying, puke.


No, he almost certainly is not, you lying
cocksucking
murderous
shitbag. Based on statistics by the Guttmacher
Institute,
there
were
38,000,000 abortions in the U.S. from 1973 just
through
1998.
http://www.euthanasia.com/usstat.html. There
easily have
been
10,000,000 since.


Stop lying, you gutless murderous shitbag.


Sorry, but abortion hasn't killed 38 million.


Yes, it has. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Yes, it is. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Tell us..biologically...what is a fetus???


Just a clump of cells?


It's a clump of cells with the capacity to develop
further. So
what?


And guess what, maybe you missed this day in biology....


We are still a "clump of cells" before birth and after
birth..until
the day
we die...on, and with the capacity to develop further
too...until
we
die.


Aborting it is no more killing than not having sex is.


Oh, so using your logic...murdering someone after birth is
alright
too...because after all, we are only killing just a clump
of
cells.


Clue: Your argument using biology to support feticide...is
full
of
flaws.


You might want to get back to the chalkboard and think of
something
else.


You might want to try getting a fucking clue. Buy one if
necessary.


A human being is, on the whole, conscious. A fetus isn't. An
animal
is
closer to a human being than a fetus is.


I have heard the b.s. arguments before, and I know that in
order for
you to support feticide you must hold on to that complete lack
of
respect for the unborn and total insensitive nature. It's a
shame
people like you are that insensitive, but I guess that's just a
part
of nature. Some people care...some don't.


The fact that you compare a fetus to an animal says it all. If
you
are a parent...I'm sorry for your children.


Hardly likely to be a parent am I? I'm only nineteen and
responsible.


Not when you view the unborn as nothing more than an animal..I
don't see
how
you could be responsible.


A human fetus is less conscious or capable than, say, a domestic
cat.


When you are born, and you are in an accident, and in a coma...you
are less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


Should we just pull the plug and say the cat was worth more???


If I could recover? Then no, because the bundle of memories and
feelings that makes up who I am would still be intact. If I couldn't
recover and was brain dead? Well what the ***** do I care? do it.


It shouldn't matter to you if you could recover or not...because
according to your statement about a fetus...you would be less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


Once again you refuse to actually read my point.

No, I am using your point to make an illustration.
If a human in a coma

is capable of recovery,

You don't know if a person is or isn't capable..the fact of the matter is...
WHILE they are in a coma...like a fetus, they are less conscious or capable
than, say, a domestic cat.
I'm USING YOUR POINT, TO MAKE A POINT.
they are much more than a fetus, as they still

maintain that core of experience and memory that is what makes up a
human being. While on hold, they are a person. That is something a
fetus lacks. Someone not functioning with no hope of recovery is,
arguably, dead already.

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom

Convicted by Earthquack

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"

.
User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: How Would World Without Abortion Look Like? 28 May 2007 06:50:58 PM
On May 28, 10:26 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1180382137.842506.12680@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...



On May 28, 7:28 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 28, 12:14 am, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On May 27, 10:09 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180299315.626258.255420@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...


On May 27, 8:56 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180283944.436553.11460@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...


On May 27, 5:24 am, osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:

On May 26, 10:30 pm, Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On May 27, 1:37 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:


"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180223953.024132.74160@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...


On May 26, 5:25 pm, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com>
wrote:

"Lucifer" <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:1180196457.005226.25570@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...


On May 25, 3:32 pm, Rudy Canoza
<rudy-can...@excite.com>
wrote:

DanielSan wrote:

Rudy Canoza wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

On 24 May 2007 06:35:05 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com> wrote:


There would be 48,000,000+ people in the United
States
since Roe
v
Wade was
signed into law.


Stop lying, puke.


No, he almost certainly is not, you lying
cocksucking
murderous
shitbag. Based on statistics by the Guttmacher
Institute,
there
were
38,000,000 abortions in the U.S. from 1973 just
through
1998.
http://www.euthanasia.com/usstat.html. There
easily have
been
10,000,000 since.


Stop lying, you gutless murderous shitbag.


Sorry, but abortion hasn't killed 38 million.


Yes, it has. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Yes, it is. Stop lying.


Biologically, a fetus is not a person.


Tell us..biologically...what is a fetus???


Just a clump of cells?


It's a clump of cells with the capacity to develop
further. So
what?


And guess what, maybe you missed this day in biology....


We are still a "clump of cells" before birth and after
birth..until
the day
we die...on, and with the capacity to develop further
too...until
we
die.


Aborting it is no more killing than not having sex is.


Oh, so using your logic...murdering someone after birth is
alright
too...because after all, we are only killing just a clump
of
cells.


Clue: Your argument using biology to support feticide...is
full
of
flaws.


You might want to get back to the chalkboard and think of
something
else.


You might want to try getting a fucking clue. Buy one if
necessary.


A human being is, on the whole, conscious. A fetus isn't. An
animal
is
closer to a human being than a fetus is.


I have heard the b.s. arguments before, and I know that in
order for
you to support feticide you must hold on to that complete lack
of
respect for the unborn and total insensitive nature. It's a
shame
people like you are that insensitive, but I guess that's just a
part
of nature. Some people care...some don't.


The fact that you compare a fetus to an animal says it all. If
you
are a parent...I'm sorry for your children.


Hardly likely to be a parent am I? I'm only nineteen and
responsible.


Not when you view the unborn as nothing more than an animal..I
don't see
how
you could be responsible.


A human fetus is less conscious or capable than, say, a domestic
cat.


When you are born, and you are in an accident, and in a coma...you
are less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


Should we just pull the plug and say the cat was worth more???


If I could recover? Then no, because the bundle of memories and
feelings that makes up who I am would still be intact. If I couldn't
recover and was brain dead? Well what the ***** do I care? do it.


It shouldn't matter to you if you could recover or not...because
according to your statement about a fetus...you would be less
conscious or capable than, say, a domestic cat.


Once again you refuse to actually read my point.


No, I am using your point to make an illustration.

If a human in a coma

is capable of recovery,


You don't know if a person is or isn't capable..the fact of the matter is...
WHILE they are in a coma...like a fetus, they are less conscious or capable
than, say, a domestic cat.

I'm USING YOUR POINT, TO MAKE A POINT.

No, you are losing your temper and looking like an idiot. A human in a
coma has a past a fetus does not have.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.



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