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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Bob White"
Date: 03 Aug 2003 12:14:19 PM
Object: Re: If ..., then ... argument
"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-9071C1.20414222072003@blade.randori.com...

In article <rcBSa.93420$OZ2.19746@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

Which is precisely what I pointed out is your argument _ad

ignorantiam_

fallacy, knucklehead. You cannot reasonably argue that there may be

an

undetectable something because there is no proof your hypothesis is

false.


Why not?


Because that is logical fallacy, not valid inference, as explained in

Copi's

textbook:


It doesn't seem to stop you from claiming the existence of an
undetectable proof that there is no such thing as a god

Liar. I am not claiming anything, you true-believer god-boys are.
.

User: "Bob White"

Title: Re: If ..., then ... argument 04 Aug 2003 11:15:41 AM
"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...

... with reference to the
existence of gods ...

The existence of what? Define your terms.
.
User: "Virgil"

Title: Re: If ..., then ... argument 04 Aug 2003 12:18:08 PM
In article <NEvXa.44262$Oz4.12571@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...


... with reference to the
existence of gods ...


The existence of what? Define your terms.

Since there is no context remaining in which to put those terms,
their meaning is quite irrelevant.
If Septic wishes to have explained the meaning of fragments, he must
leave them in enough context to warrant the effort.
.
User: "Bob White"

Title: Re: If ..., then ... argument 04 Aug 2003 02:43:21 PM
"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-38B014.11180804082003@[63.218.45.211]...

In article <NEvXa.44262$Oz4.12571@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...


... with reference to the
existence of gods ...


The existence of what? Define your terms.


Since there is no context remaining in which to put those terms,
their meaning is quite irrelevant.

If Septic wishes to have explained the meaning of fragments, he must
leave them in enough context to warrant the effort.

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...

In article <LpbXa.41227$It4.23842@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-9071C1.20414222072003@blade.randori.com...

In article <rcBSa.93420$OZ2.19746@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

Which is precisely what I pointed out is your argument _ad

ignorantiam_

fallacy, knucklehead. You cannot reasonably argue that there may

be

an

undetectable something because there is no proof your hypothesis

is

false.


Why not?


Because that is logical fallacy, not valid inference, as explained

in

Copi's

textbook:


It doesn't seem to stop you from claiming the existence of an
undetectable proof that there is no such thing as a god


Liar. I am not claiming anything, you true-believer god-boys are.


Your own lies, Septic, are here revealed in your knowingly false
claim that those who disagree with you must be believers in some
sort of god.

In fact, those who disagree with you seem to run the entire spectrum
from dedicated anti-theist through all shades of agnosticism to the
most dedicated of theists.

The logical expanation of this unprecedented agreement is the
unprecedented wrongness of Septic's beliefs, which he "conflates"
with actual knowledge.

Septic, you have lied about enough things so that there is no need
for anyone to have any particular position with reference to the
existence of gods to find something to call you a liar about.

What does "the existence of gods" mean in your diatribe of argument _ad
hominem_? What is a god?
.
User: "Virgil"

Title: Re: If ..., then ... argument 05 Aug 2003 12:04:38 AM
In article <tHyXa.45051$cF.17020@rwcrnsc53>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-38B014.11180804082003@[63.218.45.211]...

In article <NEvXa.44262$Oz4.12571@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...


... with reference to the
existence of gods ...


The existence of what? Define your terms.


Since there is no context remaining in which to put those terms,
their meaning is quite irrelevant.

If Septic wishes to have explained the meaning of fragments, he must
leave them in enough context to warrant the effort.



"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-66436A.21045203082003@[63.218.45.211]...

In article <LpbXa.41227$It4.23842@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Virgil" <vmhjr2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vmhjr2-9071C1.20414222072003@blade.randori.com...

In article <rcBSa.93420$OZ2.19746@rwcrnsc54>,
"Bob White" <threeball@hotmail.com> wrote:

Which is precisely what I pointed out is your argument _ad

ignorantiam_

fallacy, knucklehead. You cannot reasonably argue that there may

be

an

undetectable something because there is no proof your hypothesis

is

false.


Why not?


Because that is logical fallacy, not valid inference, as explained

in

Copi's

textbook:


It doesn't seem to stop you from claiming the existence of an
undetectable proof that there is no such thing as a god


Liar. I am not claiming anything, you true-believer god-boys are.


Your own lies, Septic, are here revealed in your knowingly false
claim that those who disagree with you must be believers in some
sort of god.

In fact, those who disagree with you seem to run the entire spectrum
from dedicated anti-theist through all shades of agnosticism to the
most dedicated of theists.

The logical expanation of this unprecedented agreement is the
unprecedented wrongness of Septic's beliefs, which he "conflates"
with actual knowledge.

Septic, you have lied about enough things so that there is no need
for anyone to have any particular position with reference to the
existence of gods to find something to call you a liar about.



What does "the existence of gods" mean in your diatribe of argument _ad
hominem_? What is a god?

I have answered both these questions enough times for anyone able to
read to know my answers.
If Septic is still so ignorant, perhaps such ignorance is an
incurable condition with him.
.





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