Religions > Atheism > Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed
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01 Apr 2004 06:55:15 AM |
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Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
On 29 Mar 2004 09:32:34 -0800,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
Libertarius wrote in alt.atheism
Paulinism (Christianity) is a 20 centuries old FRAUD!
The glorious apostle of our savior had labored endlessly to bring
the message of the Gospel to the Greek and the barbarics
Mostly he labored to make a shekel and a drachma
1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints:
you should follow the directions I gave to the churches of Galatia.
2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and
save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken
when I come.
3 And when I arrive, I will send any whom you approve with letters to
take your gift to Jerusalem.
Romans 15:25 At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem in a
ministry to the saints;
26 for Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to share their
resources with the poor among the saints at Jerusalem.
27 They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for
if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they
ought also to be of service to them in material things.
28 So, when I have completed this, and have delivered to them what
has been collected, I will set out by way of you to Spain;
but some
of the sons of the monkeys keep understimating his work.
If any of the sons of monkeys says Paul was a fraud let such monkey
be taken to the next Zoo because that is where it belongs.
If anyone fails to enforce this pronouncement let him be separeted
from the civilized world
Because we dispute your fables oh Son of an Imaginanary Deity?
We keep hearing your atheistic slogan that Paul was a fraud
His own confession:
1 Corinthians 1:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win
Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I
myself am not under the law) so that I might win those under the law.
21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (though I
am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law) so that I might
win those outside the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, so that I might win the weak. I have
become all things to all people, that I might by all means save some.
(Romans 3:4;7
"...let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
"But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am
I also still being judged as a sinner?"
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
04 Apr 2004 04:02:43 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<cd3o60d68df16g98tmab8dc8rgpe7e8ju2@4ax.com>...
On 29 Mar 2004 09:32:34 -0800,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
Libertarius wrote in alt.atheism
Paulinism (Christianity) is a 20 centuries old FRAUD!
The glorious apostle of our savior had labored endlessly to bring
the message of the Gospel to the Greek and the barbarics
Mostly he labored to make a shekel and a drachma
1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints:
you should follow the directions I gave to the churches of Galatia.
2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and
save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken
when I come.
3 And when I arrive, I will send any whom you approve with letters to
take your gift to Jerusalem.
Romans 15:25 At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem in a
ministry to the saints;
26 for Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to share their
resources with the poor among the saints at Jerusalem.
27 They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for
if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they
ought also to be of service to them in material things.
28 So, when I have completed this, and have delivered to them what
has been collected, I will set out by way of you to Spain;
but some
of the sons of the monkeys keep understimating his work.
If any of the sons of monkeys says Paul was a fraud let such monkey
be taken to the next Zoo because that is where it belongs.
If anyone fails to enforce this pronouncement let him be separeted
from the civilized world
Because we dispute your fables oh Son of an Imaginanary Deity?
We keep hearing your atheistic slogan that Paul was a fraud
His own confession:
1 Corinthians 1:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win
Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I
myself am not under the law) so that I might win those under the law.
21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (though I
am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law) so that I might
win those outside the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, so that I might win the weak. I have
become all things to all people, that I might by all means save some.
(Romans 3:4;7
"...let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
"But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am
I also still being judged as a sinner?"
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
What is your point?
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
04 Apr 2004 06:33:19 PM |
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On 4 Apr 2004 14:02:43 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
What is your point?
That Paul was a 1st century Jimmy Swaggart.
## The New Testament is less a Christiad than a Pauliad.
Thomas Hardy
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| User: "yetti" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 10:58:42 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<nm6170hqi3d4v04facjhrr4qknpc8736d2@4ax.com>...
On 4 Apr 2004 14:02:43 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
What is your point?
That Paul was a 1st century Jimmy Swaggart.
## The New Testament is less a Christiad than a Pauliad.
Thomas Hardy
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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04 Apr 2004 04:15:57 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<cd3o60d68df16g98tmab8dc8rgpe7e8ju2@4ax.com>...
On 29 Mar 2004 09:32:34 -0800,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
Libertarius wrote in alt.atheism
Paulinism (Christianity) is a 20 centuries old FRAUD!
The glorious apostle of our savior had labored endlessly to bring
the message of the Gospel to the Greek and the barbarics
Mostly he labored to make a shekel and a drachma
1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints:
you should follow the directions I gave to the churches of Galatia.
2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and
save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken
when I come.
3 And when I arrive, I will send any whom you approve with letters to
take your gift to Jerusalem.
Romans 15:25 At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem in a
ministry to the saints;
26 for Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to share their
resources with the poor among the saints at Jerusalem.
27 They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for
if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they
ought also to be of service to them in material things.
28 So, when I have completed this, and have delivered to them what
has been collected, I will set out by way of you to Spain;
but some
of the sons of the monkeys keep understimating his work.
If any of the sons of monkeys says Paul was a fraud let such monkey
be taken to the next Zoo because that is where it belongs.
If anyone fails to enforce this pronouncement let him be separeted
from the civilized world
Because we dispute your fables oh Son of an Imaginanary Deity?
We keep hearing your atheistic slogan that Paul was a fraud
His own confession:
1 Corinthians 1:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win
Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I
myself am not under the law) so that I might win those under the law.
21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (though I
am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law) so that I might
win those outside the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, so that I might win the weak. I have
become all things to all people, that I might by all means save some.
(Romans 3:4;7
"...let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
"But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am
I also still being judged as a sinner?"
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
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| User: "yetti" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 10:58:06 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in message news:<bbba7302.0404041315.292eb6af@posting.google.com>...
John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<cd3o60d68df16g98tmab8dc8rgpe7e8ju2@4ax.com>...
On 29 Mar 2004 09:32:34 -0800,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
Libertarius wrote in alt.atheism
Paulinism (Christianity) is a 20 centuries old FRAUD!
The glorious apostle of our savior had labored endlessly to bring
the message of the Gospel to the Greek and the barbarics
Mostly he labored to make a shekel and a drachma
1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints:
you should follow the directions I gave to the churches of Galatia.
2 On the first day of every week, each of you is to put aside and
save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken
when I come.
3 And when I arrive, I will send any whom you approve with letters to
take your gift to Jerusalem.
Romans 15:25 At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem in a
ministry to the saints;
26 for Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to share their
resources with the poor among the saints at Jerusalem.
27 They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for
if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual blessings, they
ought also to be of service to them in material things.
28 So, when I have completed this, and have delivered to them what
has been collected, I will set out by way of you to Spain;
but some
of the sons of the monkeys keep understimating his work.
If any of the sons of monkeys says Paul was a fraud let such monkey
be taken to the next Zoo because that is where it belongs.
If anyone fails to enforce this pronouncement let him be separeted
from the civilized world
Because we dispute your fables oh Son of an Imaginanary Deity?
We keep hearing your atheistic slogan that Paul was a fraud
His own confession:
1 Corinthians 1:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win
Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I
myself am not under the law) so that I might win those under the law.
21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (though I
am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law) so that I might
win those outside the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, so that I might win the weak. I have
become all things to all people, that I might by all means save some.
(Romans 3:4;7
"...let God be found true, though every man be found a liar
"But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am
I also still being judged as a sinner?"
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
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| User: "John Ings" |
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04 Apr 2004 06:38:35 PM |
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On 4 Apr 2004 14:15:57 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
Oh but I do! It is the devout who refuse to read the Bible in the
context in which it was written. They seldom study the social milleu
in which the Bible was written so they don't see the lies, the
dissimulation, the politics.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
Same to you.
## FUNDAMENTALISM: Text without context.
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| User: "yetti" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 10:57:32 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<vq6170ppr52pc6hs5lt9i9jgnseqrn3c57@4ax.com>...
On 4 Apr 2004 14:15:57 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
Oh but I do! It is the devout who refuse to read the Bible in the
context in which it was written. They seldom study the social milleu
in which the Bible was written so they don't see the lies, the
dissimulation, the politics.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
Same to you.
## FUNDAMENTALISM: Text without context.
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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07 Apr 2004 08:30:18 AM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<vq6170ppr52pc6hs5lt9i9jgnseqrn3c57@4ax.com>...
On 4 Apr 2004 14:15:57 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did but
your ignorance don't let you see it hence your rambling
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
Oh but I do! It is the devout who refuse to read the Bible in the
context in which it was written. They seldom study the social milleu
in which the Bible was written so they don't see the lies, the
dissimulation, the politics.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
Same to you.
## FUNDAMENTALISM: Text without context.
.
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| User: "yetti" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 10:57:09 PM |
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(Not-easily-duped) wrote in message news:<bbba7302.0404070530.72c60b8@posting.google.com>...
John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<vq6170ppr52pc6hs5lt9i9jgnseqrn3c57@4ax.com>...
On 4 Apr 2004 14:15:57 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did but
your ignorance don't let you see it hence your rambling
## It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand
## that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
Mark Twain
You don't know what reading within the context means.
Oh but I do! It is the devout who refuse to read the Bible in the
context in which it was written. They seldom study the social milleu
in which the Bible was written so they don't see the lies, the
dissimulation, the politics.
It is my belief you should not be taken seriously.
Same to you.
## FUNDAMENTALISM: Text without context.
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 11:37:18 AM |
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On 7 Apr 2004 06:30:18 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
but
your ignorance don't let you see it hence your rambling
If that's your idea of reasoning, I suspect you're very easily duped.
## Second coming? I don't believe he came the first time!
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| User: "yetti" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
07 Apr 2004 10:56:36 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<v9b870h7kujh5vlegi3j5hbs614mrbs4pc@4ax.com>...
On 7 Apr 2004 06:30:18 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
but
your ignorance don't let you see it hence your rambling
If that's your idea of reasoning, I suspect you're very easily duped.
## Second coming? I don't believe he came the first time!
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
08 Apr 2004 09:43:38 AM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<v9b870h7kujh5vlegi3j5hbs614mrbs4pc@4ax.com>...
On 7 Apr 2004 06:30:18 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
Islam did answer Paul, the decree of the Apostles in the Acts and and
the Nicea Constantinople council and some of the catholic councils
you are too late.Moron
but
your ignorance don't let you see it hence your rambling
If that's your idea of reasoning, I suspect you're very easily duped.
## Second coming? I don't believe he came the first time!
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
08 Apr 2004 10:58:43 AM |
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On 8 Apr 2004 07:43:38 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
Islam did answer Paul, the decree of the Apostles in the Acts and and
the Nicea Constantinople council and some of the catholic councils
What has that to do with my understanding the debate?
you are too late.Moron
I like your signature. Moron for Christ is it?
## Ful wys is he that kan hymselven knowe!
Chaucer
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
11 Apr 2004 04:12:21 PM |
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John Ings <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message news:<2cta70hrm2r8vo248jhfmd95ls6l1nbg2l@4ax.com>...
On 8 Apr 2004 07:43:38 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
Islam did answer Paul, the decree of the Apostles in the Acts and and
the Nicea Constantinople council and some of the catholic councils
What has that to do with my understanding the debate?
Do you really understand the debate? So why did you fail to see Islam
as Paul's doctrines in reverse?
Your criticism is baseless
you are too late.Moron
I like your signature. Moron for Christ is it?
## Ful wys is he that kan hymselven knowe!
Chaucer
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: If Any Of The Sons Of Monkeys Says, Paul Is A Fraud Let Him Be Cursed |
11 Apr 2004 05:25:50 PM |
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On 11 Apr 2004 14:12:21 -0700,
(Not-easily-duped) wrote:
but you never provide any doctrinal alternative to Paul,
Why should a theological doctrine be provided for anything?
To prove that you understand what the debate was about
Why would providing a doctrinal alternative to Paul's doctrine be
necessary to do that?
Those who understood the content of Paul's doctrine already did
Provided an alternative doctrine? OK, but how does that:
1. Prove they understood Paul's doctrine
2. Prove they understood what the debate was about.
Islam did answer Paul, the decree of the Apostles in the Acts and and
the Nicea Constantinople council and some of the catholic councils
What has that to do with my understanding the debate?
Do you really understand the debate?
The debate is about Paul being a fraud. See the thread title.
So why did you fail to see Islam as Paul's doctrines in reverse?
Who cares? A false doctrine in reverse is of no more veracity.
Your criticism is baseless
Because Islam is Paul's doctrine in reverse?
What's that got to do with it?
## A historian's first duties are sacrilege
## and the mocking of false gods.
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