Religions > Atheism > Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President?
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"Michael Gray" |
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19 Jan 2005 10:38:47 AM |
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Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
On 19 Jan 2005 00:41:29 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
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Let's see if I can figure this out. Deserters are "cowards" simply
because they don't believe in the lies of the government but yet the
same people who would gladly lynch one of them believes George Bush is
a great President. Yet he was a deserter.
It's amazing. The level of cognitive dissonance among these people is
beyond belief.
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Religious indoctrination/training, gives one training in the ability
to hold two or more mutually contradictory opinions at the same time.
You, quite simply, cannot be properly religious without this
extraordinary ability.
All western religions actually *require* one to have an advanced form
of cognitive dissonance, in order that you believe what you are
*told*, without thinking about the impossibilty of it (at the same
time).
(Eg: Transubstantion, The Trinity, biblical infallibity, etc)
In this way, the powerful elite can lead you around like sheep, and
work you like their hand-puppets, effortlessly.
It has been this way for millenia, and doesn't look like stopping
anytime soon.
Especially with the U.S. heading the way it is.
Religion = Control => Mass stupidity.
Q.E.D.
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
19 Jan 2005 02:11:51 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 00:41:29 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
Let's see if I can figure this out. Deserters are "cowards" simply
because they don't believe in the lies of the government but yet the
same people who would gladly lynch one of them believes George Bush
is
a great President. Yet he was a deserter.
It's amazing. The level of cognitive dissonance among these people
is
beyond belief.
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Religious indoctrination/training, gives one training in the ability
to hold two or more mutually contradictory opinions at the same time.
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
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| User: "Meh" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support onefor President? |
19 Jan 2005 08:07:04 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
Religious indoctrination/training, gives one training in the ability
to hold two or more mutually contradictory opinions at the same time.
Rump Ranger wrote:
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
It should be said that nationalism also serves the same function. The
three are often mixed together. The resulting propagandistic swill is
the lifeblood of the state.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
21 Jan 2005 08:44:47 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2005 06:11:51 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 00:41:29 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
Let's see if I can figure this out. Deserters are "cowards" simply
because they don't believe in the lies of the government but yet the
same people who would gladly lynch one of them believes George Bush
is
a great President. Yet he was a deserter.
It's amazing. The level of cognitive dissonance among these people
is
beyond belief.
:
Religious indoctrination/training, gives one training in the ability
to hold two or more mutually contradictory opinions at the same time.
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
Which lead Granger, and others, to prison terms and ruined lives.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
22 Jan 2005 04:35:17 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:44:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
Which lead Granger, and others, to prison terms and ruined lives.
So I take it that neither of you have any clue about this subject?
--
I have gone where others feared to go.
I have done what others failed to do.
Count on me.
I am a Soldier.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one forPresident? |
22 Jan 2005 04:51:30 AM |
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Colin Campbell wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:44:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
Which lead Granger, and others, to prison terms and ruined lives.
So I take it that neither of you have any clue about this subject?
i believe you can safely leave "this subject" out of the sentence...
redc1c4,
how's the motor pool coming, btw? %-)
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"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
22 Jan 2005 05:30:58 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:51:30 GMT, redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
redc1c4,
how's the motor pool coming, btw? %-)
It is raining - and I have palletized tank track that is slowly
sinking into the mud.
I am so glad I have most of the stuff turned-in.
BTW, the roof of my hooch leaks. Apparently it will be repaired as
soon as they fix the hundreds of leaky hooches ahead of mine.
--
I have gone where others feared to go.
I have done what others failed to do.
Count on me.
I am a Soldier.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: If deserters are "cowards", how can the military support one for President? |
23 Jan 2005 01:34:17 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:35:17 +0300, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:44:47 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
That's not exclusive to religion. The military (at least the US does)
uses cognitive dissonance to break down a person's ability to think
reasonably and never question orders.
Which lead Granger, and others, to prison terms and ruined lives.
So I take it that neither of you have any clue about this subject?
You can take anything you like. It doesn't bother me any.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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