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11 Apr 2005 03:46:54 AM |
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Re: If God Hates Homosexuality So Much. . . |
Le Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:50:22 +0000, Bert Hyman a écrit :
I take it then that you're not at all familiar with Leviticus.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that crap. How about that:
"20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely
put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be
upon him."
Say, buddy, I don't see you much running around killing children who have
curesed their parents, so why do you care so much about homos? It's just
one line in the whole holy book of *****.
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12 Apr 2005 12:30:31 AM |
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....why did he put the "male G-spot" erogenous zone inside the *****?
http://www.touchsensual.com/resources_male_gspot.htm
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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12 Apr 2005 01:06:47 PM |
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Now Here's Clayton With The Weather wrote:
...why did he put the "male G-spot" erogenous zone inside the *****?
http://www.touchsensual.com/resources_male_gspot.htm
Temptation. If you do anything because God made it pleasureable, then
you are unworthy of God and will burn in Hell for ever and ever, amen.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Peter James" |
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12 Apr 2005 06:21:41 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:06:47 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
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Now Here's Clayton With The Weather wrote:
...why did he put the "male G-spot" erogenous zone inside the *****?
http://www.touchsensual.com/resources_male_gspot.htm
Temptation. If you do anything because God made it pleasureable, then
you are unworthy of God and will burn in Hell for ever and ever, amen.
Then why the ***** did god make it pleasurable. Please don't tell me
it is to test his creation. You'll be telling me next about the
sacrifice of his son. Why don't you bible punchers and sky pilots get
real? Life is exciting and thrilling enough without trying for the
vicarious pleasures of denial and secret self abuse, or if you're a
Catholic Priest, child abuse.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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12 Apr 2005 08:07:39 PM |
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Peter James wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:06:47 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
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Now Here's Clayton With The Weather wrote:
...why did he put the "male G-spot" erogenous zone inside the *****?
http://www.touchsensual.com/resources_male_gspot.htm
Temptation. If you do anything because God made it pleasureable, then
you are unworthy of God and will burn in Hell for ever and ever, amen.
Then why the ***** did god make it pleasurable. Please don't tell me
it is to test his creation. You'll be telling me next about the
sacrifice of his son. Why don't you bible punchers and sky pilots get
real? Life is exciting and thrilling enough without trying for the
vicarious pleasures of denial and secret self abuse, or if you're a
Catholic Priest, child abuse.
Um, hello! You are preaching to the choir here. What little theism I have
left is mainly of the neo-pagan variety :-P
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Peter James" |
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13 Apr 2005 09:10:50 AM |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:07:39 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
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Peter James wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:06:47 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Now Here's Clayton With The Weather wrote:
...why did he put the "male G-spot" erogenous zone inside the *****?
http://www.touchsensual.com/resources_male_gspot.htm
Temptation. If you do anything because God made it pleasureable, then
you are unworthy of God and will burn in Hell for ever and ever, amen.
Then why the ***** did god make it pleasurable. Please don't tell me
it is to test his creation. You'll be telling me next about the
sacrifice of his son. Why don't you bible punchers and sky pilots get
real? Life is exciting and thrilling enough without trying for the
vicarious pleasures of denial and secret self abuse, or if you're a
Catholic Priest, child abuse.
Um, hello! You are preaching to the choir here. What little theism I have
left is mainly of the neo-pagan variety :-P
Sorry, I came late to the thread. It's just that these "fundie" get
on my bloody nerves. I often wonder why the "Earth Mother" or "Gaia"
let them get born.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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11 Apr 2005 03:54:22 AM |
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:50:22 +0000, Bert Hyman a écrit :
I take it then that you're not at all familiar with Leviticus.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that crap. How about that:
"20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be
surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his
blood shall be upon him."
Say, buddy, I don't see you much running around killing children who
have curesed their parents, so why do you care so much about homos?
It's just one line in the whole holy book of *****.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Clearly if a child dies, they didn't honor their parents and deserved the
death.
Either that or the god lied.
Why do they get so upset?
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Apr 2005 10:08:07 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:54:22 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:50:22 +0000, Bert Hyman a écrit :
I take it then that you're not at all familiar with Leviticus.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that crap. How about that:
"20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be
surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his
blood shall be upon him."
Say, buddy, I don't see you much running around killing children who
have curesed their parents, so why do you care so much about homos?
It's just one line in the whole holy book of *****.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Clearly if a child dies, they didn't honor their parents and deserved the
death.
Either that or the god lied.
Why do they get so upset?
Clearly.............oh, well, why bother. You already know better.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "CoolBreeze" |
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11 Apr 2005 10:04:05 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:23jk5112gfba3hkvcdqc5ocs1gv36susd1@4ax.com:
Clearly.............oh, well, why bother. You already know better.
I Think I am Having a heart attack!
Duke said something that is true!
The world can go back to spinning now.......without any fairies help, of
course!!
--
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I gather, young man, that you wish to be a Member of Parliament. The first
lesson that you must learn is,
when I call for statistics about the rate of infant mortality, what I want
is proof that fewer babies died
when I was Prime Minister than when anyone else was Prime Minister. That is
a political statistic. - Sir
Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
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11 Apr 2005 04:37:32 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:54:22 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:50:22 +0000, Bert Hyman a écrit :
I take it then that you're not at all familiar with Leviticus.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that crap. How about that:
"20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be
surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his
blood shall be upon him."
Say, buddy, I don't see you much running around killing children who
have curesed their parents, so why do you care so much about homos?
It's just one line in the whole holy book of *****.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Clearly if a child dies, they didn't honor their parents and deserved the
death.
Either that or the god lied.
Why do they get so upset?
Clearly.............oh, well, why bother. You already know better.
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
--
James B, former monkey #4,567,000,000
aa #944
"Hence the greatest crimes have been found, in many instances,
compatible with a superstitious piety and devotion: Hence, it
is justly regarded as unsafe to draw any certain inference in
favour of a man's morals from the fervour or strictness of his
religious exercises, even though he himself believe them sincere."
-David Hume, "The Natural History of Religion"
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Apr 2005 10:16:28 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:37:32 -0500, James <shiv_@hotmail.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:54:22 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:50:22 +0000, Bert Hyman a écrit :
I take it then that you're not at all familiar with Leviticus.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that crap. How about that:
"20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be
surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his
blood shall be upon him."
Say, buddy, I don't see you much running around killing children who
have curesed their parents, so why do you care so much about homos?
It's just one line in the whole holy book of *****.
Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Clearly if a child dies, they didn't honor their parents and deserved the
death.
Either that or the god lied.
Why do they get so upset?
Clearly.............oh, well, why bother. You already know better.
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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11 Apr 2005 10:30:35 PM |
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Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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12 Apr 2005 12:35:48 AM |
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"Divin Marquis" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.04.11.22.30.34.933807@127.0.0.1...
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
Clearly that's what Duke is saying!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http:/www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Divin Marquis" |
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12 Apr 2005 08:12:31 AM |
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Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:35:48 -0500, Denis Loubet a écrit :
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
Clearly that's what Duke is saying!
Yes, Duke, we want to know! Answer at once!
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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12 Apr 2005 01:05:13 PM |
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
I'm more curious about how he knows what parts of the Bible are man-made and
what part are God's Own Eternal Truth? What standard does he apply? I mean,
if *some* parts of the Bible are human creations, why not *all* parts of the
Bible?
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "Peter James" |
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12 Apr 2005 06:12:41 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:05:13 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
I'm more curious about how he knows what parts of the Bible are man-made and
what part are God's Own Eternal Truth? What standard does he apply? I mean,
if *some* parts of the Bible are human creations, why not *all* parts of the
Bible?
I wrote this to another NG a week or so ago, but I think it bears
repeating.
The Bible as the word of God?
If the Bible in the form of the Old Testament is the un-disputed word
of God, handed down from generation to generation, why are there so
many contradictions and apparent anomalies within it?
As an example may I offer the following?
Genesis Chapter 1 tells the story of the creation in the order of
1. plants
2. animals
3. man and woman
Genesis Chapter 2 tells the story of the creation in the order of
1. man
2. plants
3. animals
4. woman
Now in many ways these two chapters duplicate each other, and on
several points they contradict each other. For example they describe
the same events in different order. In chapter one, god creates
plants first then animals, then man and woman. In chapter two, god
creates man first, and then plants and then in order that man should
not be alone he creates animals. And then, because man cannot find a
mate amongst the animals he creates woman.
The two stories are two different pictures of what happened. The
first version always refers to the creator as God, thirty five times
to be precise. The second version refers to the creator by his name
-Yahweh God, eleven times. The second version never calls him God.
After the creation comes the story of the flood and Noah's ark, and it
too can be separated into two different versions that are sometimes a
duplicate of each other, and other times contradict each other. And
again the deity in one version is always called God, and in the other
is referred to as Yahweh.
So what in fact have we got here? What we have in fact is TWO
SEPARATE WORKS that in the past someone had cut and pasted into one
story.
Biblical researchers in the 1780's categorised the groups of biblical
stories that refer to the deity as god as "E", because the Hebrew word
for God is "Elohim". The group of stories that refer to the deity as
Yahweh are known as "J" (because in German, and a German discovered
this, the J sound is pronounced as the English Y) Unfortunately this
theory only lasted some eighteen years before it was discovered that
the first five books of the bible was not by two different writers but
four.
The third set of stories seemed to be by a person interested in
ritual, sacrifice, incense burning and purity, and also showed a
concern for dates, numbers and measurement. This source came to be
known as the Priestly source - P for short.
The sources J, E, and P were found principally in the first four books
of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers. However there was
no trace of these sources in Deuteronomy, which appeared to be
independent of the others and thus came to be known as source "D"
Conclusion
We would appear to have four different sets of stories from four
different sources cut and pasted into one book. Now if there are four
different sources in the composition of the OT then where is the word
of God? Did four different persons all under the directive of God
write the OT at his command? If so, then where does this place the
often-stated Jewish and Christian belief that the first four books of
the Bible were the work of Moses?
Or, and as I believe, do we have the myths and legends of at least
four tribes of desert dwelling, sheep herding nomads who learnt the
art of writing from their neighbours and collected their ancestral
myths into written form.
Sources
Friedman, Richard Elliott "Who wrote the Bible" Jonathon Cape, London
1988
Eissfeldt, Otto "The Old Testament, an Introduction" translated by P
R Ackroyd printed oxford 1965
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13 Apr 2005 03:48:26 PM |
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Le Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:30:35 +0200, Divin Marquis a écrit :
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Apr 2005 10:15:09 PM |
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:30:35 +0200, Divin Marquis a écrit :
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus"
game, duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of
silly crap in there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
Earl's responses tend to be fewer and of a more "sober" nature in the early
part of the week. If he has not run away expect a response Thursday, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday with the Sunday response again tending to be more sober
in nature.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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14 Apr 2005 10:00:50 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:15:09 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:30:35 +0200, Divin Marquis a écrit :
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus"
game, duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of
silly crap in there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
Earl's responses tend to be fewer and of a more "sober" nature in the early
part of the week. If he has not run away expect a response Thursday, Friday,
Saturday and Sunday with the Sunday response again tending to be more sober
in nature.
Don't forget he gets his' fix' on Sunday's when he gets to confess his
sins and receive divine guidance from his priest. Hence he is stable
at the beginning of the week. As the week goes on his failing memory
begins to forget the guidance and he gets increasing lost and
frightened. Don't forget he has no moral sense of his own and without
this guidance he is lost and in the dark. He is like a lost sheep
without his shepherd. This is a particular hard time for him since
he has no Pope to guide him either. You saw all those poor desperate
people huddling together in fear around St. Peters Sq last week. You
will probably see them again in the next few days desperately waiting
for a new Pope to come onto the balcony to reassure them alls well.
Sad really
Just a tentative theory based on yevidence gathered so far and subject
to peer review, debate and further investigation :-)
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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14 Apr 2005 04:54:52 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
Don't forget he gets his' fix' on Sunday's when he gets to confess his
sins and receive divine guidance from his priest. Hence he is stable
at the beginning of the week. As the week goes on his failing memory
begins to forget the guidance and he gets increasing lost and
frightened. Don't forget he has no moral sense of his own and without
this guidance he is lost and in the dark. He is like a lost sheep
without his shepherd. This is a particular hard time for him since
he has no Pope to guide him either. You saw all those poor desperate
people huddling together in fear around St. Peters Sq last week. You
will probably see them again in the next few days desperately waiting
for a new Pope to come onto the balcony to reassure them alls well.
Sad really
Just a tentative theory based on yevidence gathered so far and subject
to peer review, debate and further investigation :-)
Sorry but our boy Earl claims :
"Is that after my 9 hr days at work preceded by daily mass? "
posted Mon, 17 Jan 2005 05:22:37 -0600
I've had other ideas and it could be fatigue and age but it's to regular to
be any of my earlier ideas.
I think it's booze.
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14 Apr 2005 02:39:07 AM |
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Divin Marquis wrote:
Le Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:30:35 +0200, Divin Marquis a écrit :
Le Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:28 -0500, duke a écrit :
Do you want to start playing the "Pick and Choose From Leviticus" game,
duke? Surely you're as familiar as I with the amount of silly crap in
there.
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
Archaeology has shown us all the supposed 'history' of the Torah is
so much nonsense. None of it happened s claimed. No exodus, no 40
years wandering,
No genocidal invasion of Canaan. And no Moses on the mount.
Yes, its all man made, not a single word from a nonexistant god.
All of it. Its sad that evil little men stick with these
evil lies and cause so many people so much trouble for no good
reason at all.
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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13 Apr 2005 11:34:01 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:48:26 +0200, Divin Marquis <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote:
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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14 Apr 2005 08:19:32 AM |
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Le Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:34:01 -0500, duke a écrit :
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
Who the ***** cares? That's not the point.
You said Leviticus was man-made. You blasphemorized @ the H0L¥ B!BL€!
Surely, you will burn in hell for this affront, fucktard!
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14 Apr 2005 10:49:26 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:19:32 +0200, Divin Marquis <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote:
Who the ***** cares? That's not the point.
You said Leviticus was man-made. You blasphemorized @ the H0L¥ B!BL€!
Surely, you will burn in hell for this affront, fucktard!
Sound's like you'll get there before me.
duke
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14 Apr 2005 11:25:47 PM |
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Le Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:49:26 -0500, duke a écrit :
Who the ***** cares? That's not the point. You said Leviticus was
man-made. You blasphemorized @ the H0L¥ B!BL€! Surely, you will burn in
hell for this affront, fucktard!
Sound's like you'll get there before me.
Yeah, I'll get there shortly after going to Santa's workshop.
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15 Apr 2005 05:35:45 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:25:47 +0200, Divin Marquis <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote:
Le Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:49:26 -0500, duke a écrit :
Who the ***** cares? That's not the point. You said Leviticus was
man-made. You blasphemorized @ the H0L¥ B!BL?! Surely, you will burn in
hell for this affront, fucktard!
Sound's like you'll get there before me.
Yeah, I'll get there shortly after going to Santa's workshop.
That won't help you.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: HEY DUKE! WAKE THE ***** UP!! |
14 Apr 2005 01:03:45 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:34:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:48:26 +0200, Divin Marquis <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote:
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
Nice evasion. Is Leviticus 20:13 simply a manmade Jewish law, or not?
If not, how do you tell which laws are divine, and which aren't?
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: HEY DUKE! WAKE THE ***** UP!! |
14 Apr 2005 08:42:11 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:34:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:48:26 +0200, Divin Marquis <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote:
No, it's the Jewish man-made laws.
So the law against homosexuality is "man-made"?
What, no response? Have I just made you dump core?
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
Nice evasion. Is Leviticus 20:13 simply a manmade Jewish law, or not?
If not, how do you tell which laws are divine, and which aren't?
Presumably the laws which refer to something as being unpure/ritually
unpure are the manmade ones
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: HEY DUKE! WAKE THE ***** UP!! |
14 Apr 2005 10:48:45 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:03:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
Nice evasion. Is Leviticus 20:13 simply a manmade Jewish law, or not?
Probably manmade as a follow on to Genesis.
The Jews, as a method to determine if individuals were honoring the laws of God,
created laws to so determine, then created more laws to define the standards,
etc, etc, etc.
Levi and Numbers are chocka-block of manmade laws.
If not, how do you tell which laws are divine, and which aren't?
By what they address and it's relative value. Why should not a Jewish man carry
3 fig leaves one mile on the Sabbath. Because that is the manmade definition of
"work".
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Divin Marquis" |
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| Title: Re: HEY DUKE! WAKE THE ***** UP!! |
14 Apr 2005 11:26:28 PM |
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Le Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:48:45 -0500, duke a écrit :
Levi and Numbers are chocka-block of manmade laws.
Ok so the (sorta) anti-homo verse is "manmade."
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: HEY DUKE! WAKE THE ***** UP!! |
15 Apr 2005 12:16:58 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:03:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
The sin of "sodom"y shows up in Genesis. That comes before Levi.
Nice evasion. Is Leviticus 20:13 simply a manmade Jewish law, or
not?
Probably manmade as a follow on to Genesis.
Probably? Then you admit it may be by god. Why don't you follow the rules
that are probably from god?
The Jews, as a method to determine if individuals were honoring the
laws of God, created laws to so determine, then created more laws to
define the standards, etc, etc, etc.
Levi and Numbers are chocka-block of manmade laws.
If not, how do you tell which laws are divine, and which aren't?
By what they address and it's relative value. Why should not a
Jewish man carry 3 fig leaves one mile on the Sabbath. Because that
is the manmade definition of "work".
What then is gods definition of work? 4 leaves, five leaves, 500,000 leaves?
Where precisely is this defined?
How do you know that the rule about resting on the Sabbath is a rule of this
god and not just made up?
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