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User: "Christopher A. Lee"
Date: 20 Oct 2004 01:16:31 PM
Object: Re: In my email today
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:40:08 -0400,
wrote:

From: "Trisha [deleted]
To: <jalison
Subject: Separation of Church and State
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:57:12 -0400

Hi! I'm a devout Catholic and thereby Christian. I just wanted to say
that it infuriates me that my church wants to keep Bush in office when
it's blatant that he wants to disregard the founding father's wishes to
keep this country's government free of one particular religious
influence. (Note the First Amendment and Jefferson's letter to the
Danbury Congregation.) Just because the founding fathers believed in
one God, does not mean that they agreed that EVERYONE would, which is
exactly why they allowed the freedom of religion in the Constitution.

As an American, it is NOT by duty to impose my Christian values on other
Americans. It is only my duty as a Christian, and it is this great
country that allows me to do that without persecution similar to the
persecution in England pre-America. It seems to me that Bush and the
extreme right wing conservatives want to force their religious beliefs
on the masses when that is not what America is about.

Trisha [deleted]

Good for Trish. I wish more theists thought that way.
.

User: "Bob"

Title: Re: In my email today 20 Oct 2004 03:13:49 PM
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:lradn05s12sgq17rhk2quqj9ljm2mrdf6d@4ax.com...

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:40:08 -0400,

wrote:

From: "Trisha [deleted]
To: <jalison
Subject: Separation of Church and State
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:57:12 -0400

Hi! I'm a devout Catholic and thereby Christian.

Ipse dixit. An awful lot of people would say the two are mutually
exclusive, and you knew that or you wouldn't have specified it...
I just wanted to say

that it infuriates me that my church wants to keep Bush in office when
it's blatant that he wants to disregard the founding father's wishes to
keep this country's government free of one particular religious
influence. (Note the First Amendment and Jefferson's letter to the
Danbury Congregation.)

Jefferson's Letters are not a part of the Constitution and are therefore
irrelevant.
Just because the founding fathers believed in

one God, does not mean that they agreed that EVERYONE would, which is
exactly why they allowed the freedom of religion in the Constitution.

It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Congress is to
make no laws with respect to religion. Any laws they have done so with are
Unconstitutional prima facie, e.g. the laws allowing Indians to eat peyote
while denying it to Catholics, allowing Muslims to have multiple wives while
denying it to Mormons.


As an American, it is NOT by duty to impose my Christian values on other
Americans. It is only my duty as a Christian, and it is this great
country that allows me to do that without persecution similar to the
persecution in England pre-America. It seems to me

It doesn't seem that way to hundreds of millions of others.
that Bush and the

extreme right wing conservatives want to force their religious beliefs
on the masses when that is not what America is about.

Trisha [deleted]


Good for Trish. I wish more theists thought that way.

.
User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: In my email today 21 Oct 2004 10:39:13 PM
"Bob" <BOB@BOB.BOB> wrote:

It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Congress is to
make no laws with respect to religion. Any laws they have done so with are
Unconstitutional prima facie, e.g. the laws allowing Indians to eat peyote
while denying it to Catholics, allowing Muslims to have multiple wives while
denying it to Mormons.

Please identify any laws that Congress has passed along the
unconstitutional lines that you have suggested.
lojbab
--
lojbab

Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: In my email today 23 Oct 2004 12:40:00 PM
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:16:31 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:40:08 -0400,

wrote:

From: "Trisha [deleted]
To: <jalison
Subject: Separation of Church and State
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:57:12 -0400

Hi! I'm a devout Catholic and thereby Christian. I just wanted to say
that it infuriates me that my church wants to keep Bush in office when
it's blatant that he wants to disregard the founding father's wishes to
keep this country's government free of one particular religious
influence. (Note the First Amendment and Jefferson's letter to the
Danbury Congregation.) Just because the founding fathers believed in
one God, does not mean that they agreed that EVERYONE would, which is
exactly why they allowed the freedom of religion in the Constitution.

As an American, it is NOT by duty to impose my Christian values on other
Americans. It is only my duty as a Christian, and it is this great
country that allows me to do that without persecution similar to the
persecution in England pre-America. It seems to me that Bush and the
extreme right wing conservatives want to force their religious beliefs
on the masses when that is not what America is about.

Trisha [deleted]


Good for Trish. I wish more theists thought that way.

Indeed, and were in public office.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.


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