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"Pastor Frank" |
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24 Jul 2004 02:36:45 PM |
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Re: In whose opinion are you a good person? |
"The_Sage" <theeSage@azrmci.net> wrote in message
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Reply to article by: "Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>
Date written: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:43:21 -0400
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By the way, I want everyone to look at the topic change above. It went
from "are
you a good person" to "in whose opinion are you a good person". This
change was
made by a self-proclaimed Pastor, who's response typifies the thinking of
christians, ie -- christians are unable tell by themselves if they are
good or
bad people unless someone else gives their opinion of whether they are
good or
bad. In this case, that other "person" is a make believe God, but a belief
in a
God, even the God of the Bible, is itself just another opinion. Even
still, the
opinion of the opinion that the Bible can tell us if we are good or bad
fails
from the get go, I as indicated by the discussion with Brandon on the ten
commandments.
I don't have to have someone else's opinon to determine right from wrong,
so why
can't christians? Are they born lacking a built-in moral compass as I
have?
The Sage
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
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| Title: Re: Intolerant atheist Gwar on the war-path in Christian NGs |
25 Jul 2004 09:43:47 AM |
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"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs.
Sticking your head in the sand, is not going to make the ocean go away.
If you keep insisting on atheist trashing and flaming in our Christian
NGs I will need to inform your Usenet provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@supernews.com They take a dim view of trashing and flaming trolls. Up
to now you have never told us yet what, or whom, it is you support, advocate
or promote, except the demise of Christianity and their supporters, or why
you insist posting atheist trash and flames to Christian NGs.
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
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| User: "Saul_Sabia" |
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| Title: Re: Intolerant atheist Gwar on the war-path in Christian NGs |
26 Jul 2004 04:04:42 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<UFPMc.20129$gP5.19946@nntp-post.primus.ca>...
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs.
Sticking your head in the sand, is not going to make the ocean go away.
If you keep insisting on atheist trashing and flaming in our Christian
NGs I will need to inform your Usenet provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@supernews.com They take a dim view of trashing and flaming trolls. Up
to now you have never told us yet what, or whom, it is you support, advocate
or promote, except the demise of Christianity and their supporters, or why
you insist posting atheist trash and flames to Christian NGs.
translation: "waaah! waaaah! big mean nasty atheist hurt my feelings!"
suggestion: get your diaper changed or grow some balls. your faith is
so weak that a little atheism could crush it flat?
Saul Sabia
saul_sabia@yaho[o].com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Intolerant atheist Gwar on the war-path in Christian NGs |
26 Jul 2004 10:56:23 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:04:42 -0700 in episode
<262c34a5.0407261304.478044ae@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
saul_sabia@yahoo.com (Saul_Sabia):
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:<UFPMc.20129$gP5.19946@nntp-post.primus.ca>...
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040724220538.D80457@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs.
Sticking your head in the sand, is not going to make the ocean go
away.
If you keep insisting on atheist trashing and flaming in our
Christian
NGs I will need to inform your Usenet provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@supernews.com They take a dim view of trashing and flaming trolls.
Up to now you have never told us yet what, or whom, it is you support,
advocate or promote, except the demise of Christianity and their
supporters, or why you insist posting atheist trash and flames to
Christian NGs.
translation: "waaah! waaaah! big mean nasty atheist hurt my feelings!"
suggestion: get your diaper changed or grow some balls. your faith is
so weak that a little atheism could crush it flat?
Flake hates us all over here. He trolled the a.a. newsgroup for *years and
all he got for all his "preaching" was being laughed at.
He now seems to think he runs Usenet and can tell people where to post.
But, then, he *is a kook...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Intolerant atheist Gwar on the war-path in Christian NGs |
26 Jul 2004 10:57:46 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:43:47 -0400 in episode
<UFPMc.20129$gP5.19946@nntp-post.primus.ca> we saw our hero "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>:
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040724220538.D80457@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs.
Sticking your head in the sand, is not going to make the ocean go away.
If you keep insisting on atheist trashing and flaming in our Christian
NGs I will need to inform your Usenet provider: X-Complaints-To:
abuse@supernews.com They take a dim view of trashing and flaming trolls.
Up to now you have never told us yet what, or whom, it is you support,
advocate or promote, except the demise of Christianity and their
supporters, or why you insist posting atheist trash and flames to
Christian NGs.
Oh look who's talking about reporting people to their ISPs. The man who
trolled a.a. for *YEARS.*
All you'll accomplish, Flake, is expanding your reputation for being a
Net kook...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Michael Yardley" |
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| Title: Re: Intolerant atheist Gwar on the war-path in Christian NGs |
25 Jul 2004 03:07:47 PM |
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Pastor Frank
Dear Pastor Frank you are using X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook
Express 6.00.2800.1409. This has features that can easily block
readers that you do not wish to read. It will also block out cross
post's to other newsgroup's. So the real problem is that you not know
how to use your computer. You could take a night school course at your
local college, and ask them how to block out readers and other
newsgroup's. The problem is not the poster's, but you not knowing how
to use your computer me think's. >>>>>>>
It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or
no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas
Jefferson
Once there was a time when all people believed in God and the church
ruled. This time is called the Dark Ages.
"Those who welcome death have only tried it from the ears up." --
Wilson Mizner
"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." --
Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
"My mind is incapable of conceiving such a thing as a soul. I may be
in error, and man may have a soul; but I simply do not believe it." --
Thomas Edison, "Do We Live Again?"
"All Bibles are man-made." -- Thomas Edison
"So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake...
Religion is all bunk." -- Thomas Edison
"I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious
theories of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a
personal God." -- Thomas Edison, "Columbian Magazine"
"I do not believe that any type of religion should ever be introduced
into the public schools of the United States." -- Thomas Edison
"They say that God is everywhere, and yet we always think of Him as
somewhat of a recluse." -- Emily Dickinson
"If there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in
despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the
implacable grandeur of this life." -- Camus
So long as the priest, that professional negator, slanderer and
poisoner of life, is regarded as a superior type of human being, there
cannot be any answer to the question: What is Truth? --Nietzsche
There are two kinds of existentialist; first, those who are
Christian...and on the other hand the atheistic existentialists, among
whom...I class myself. What they have in common is that they think
that existence precedes essence, or, if you prefer, that subjectivity
must be the turning point. --Sartre
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other
possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - - Stephen
Roberts
"Man created God in his own image." - - anonymous
". . . once a person admits to not believing in God, this raises the
question of whether or not that person believes in America . . ." - -
[Chief spokesman for National office of the Boy Scouts]
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God."
- -George Bush
Explaining the unknown by means of the unobservable is always a
perilous business. -- anonymous
Psalm 137:9: Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little
ones against the stones.
FAITH - An attitude fostered by individuals in high places in order to
ensure the subservience of those in their charge.-- anonymous
A society without religion is like a crazed psychopath without a
loaded .45 -- anonymous
Fundamentalism means never having to say "I'm wrong." -- anonymous
Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; Give him a religion,
and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
"Faith is deciding to allow yourself to believe something your
intellect would otherwise cause you to reject -- otherwise there's no
need for faith."
"The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent men without
religion, and religious men without intelligence." --
Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
"If Atheism is a religion, then health is a disease!" -- Clark Adams
"If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large
deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank." -- Woody Allen
"Not only is God dead, but just try to find a plumber on weekends." --
Woody Allen
"To YOU I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." -- Woody
Allen
"As the poet said, "Only God can make a tree" -- probably because it's
so hard to figure out how to get the bark on." -- Woody Allen
"How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught
in the roller of an electric typewriter?" -- Woody Allen
"If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil.
But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an
underachiever." -- Woody Allen
"If the Bible is mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we
trust it to tell us where we're going?" -- Anonymous
"Clearly the person who accepts the Church as an infallible guide will
believe whatever the Church teaches." -- Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274),
Summa Theologica
"I suggest that the anthropomorphic god-idea is not a harmless
infirmity of human thought, but a very noxious fallacy, which is
largely responsible for the calamities the world is at present
enduring" -- William Archer, _Theology and War_
"'Theocracy' has always been the synonym for a bleak and narrow, if
not a fierce and blood-stained tyranny." -- William Archer (1667-1735)
"A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion.
Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom
they consider godfearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less
easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side."
-- Aristotle, "Politics"
"A God who kept tinkering with the universe was absurd; a God who
interfered with human freedom and creativity was tyrant. If God is
seen as a self in a world of his own, an ego that relates to a
thought, a cause separate from its effect. "he" becomes a being, not
Being itself. An omnipotent, all- knowing tyrant is not so different
from earthly dictators who make everything and everybody mere cogs in
the machine which they controlled. An atheism that rejects such a God
is amply justified." -- Karen Armstrong, _A History of God_, pg. 383,
speaking on Paul Tillich
"All the biblical miracles will at last disappear with the progress of
science." -- Matthew Arnold (1822-1888)
"Miracles do not happen." -- Matthew Arnold, Literature and Dogma,
last words of preface to 1883 edition
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to
ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through
all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these
ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most
unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders
of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us;
who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally
resent it bitterly and warn the people of Canada..." -- Isaac Asimov,
Canadian Atheists Newsletter, 1994
"There may be Gods, but they care not what men do." -- Henry David
Thoreau
When I told the people of Northern Ireland that I was an atheist, a
woman in the audience stood up and said, "Yes, but is it the God of
the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in whom you don't
believe?" -- Quentin Crisp
Old Yiddish proverb: "If triangles had a God, He'd have three sides."
On a sidewalk near Portland State University someone wrote `Trust
Jesus', and someone else wrote `But Cut the Cards'.
Sacred cows make the best hamburger. -- Mark Twain
Making fun of born-again Christians is like hunting dairy cows with a
high powered rifle and scope. -- P.J. O'Rourke
I don't want to be immortal through my work. I want to be immortal
through not dying. -- Woody Allen
Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by
not committing them? -- Jules Feiffer
"I'm one of those cliff-hanging Catholics. I don't believe in God, but
I do believe that Mary was his mother" -- Martin Sheen , Actor
"I don't believe in God for the same reason I don't believe in Mother
Goose." -- Clarence Darrow
"My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a
disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human
race. I cannot, however, deny that it has made some contributions to
civilization. It helped in early days to fix the calendar, and it
caused Egyptian priests to chronicle eclipses with such care that in
time they became able to predict them. These two services I am
prepared to acknowledge, but I do not know of any others." -- Bertrand
Russell (From his essay Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to
Civilization?, first published in 1930)
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition
of religion." -- Karl Marx
"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalian and the
Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing.
Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist." --
Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, January 14, 1991
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis." -- Pierre Laplace
(1749-1827), to Napoleon on why his works on celestial mechanics make
no mention of God.
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing
is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." -- George Bernard Shaw
"An atheist is a man who has no invisible means of support." -- John
Buchan
"It is the final proof of God's omnipotence that he need not exist in
order to save us." -- Peter De Vries
"I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible
for such an absurd world." -- Georges Duhamel
"Operationally, God is beginning to resemble not a ruler but the last
fading smile of a cosmic Cheshire cat." -- Sir Julian Huxley
"Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook
magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men
mistake medicine for magic." -- Thomas Szasz
"A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes." -- James
Feibleman
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
-- Galileo Galilei
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." --
Voltaire (1694-1778)
"In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest
proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen
from time to time." -- Edward P. Tryon
"I'm still an atheist, thank God." -- Luis Bunuel
"Martyrdom is the only way a person can become famous without
ability." -- George Bernard Shaw
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the
point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one."
-- George Bernard Shaw
"We're all in this alone." -- Lily Tomlin
"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen
"I'm astounded by people who want to 'know' the universe when it's
hard enough to find your way around Chinatown." -- Woody Allen
"There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval." --
George Santayana
"The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a
strange protein; it rejects it." -- P. B. Medawar
"We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything." -- Thomas
Alva Edison
"When ideas fail, words come in very handy." -- Goethe
"Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it." --
Woody Allen
"Immortality -- a fate worse than death." -- Edgar A. Shoaff
"Theology is a study with no answers, because it has no subject
matter."
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25 Jul 2004 03:54:27 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
And again you make an utterly futile attempt to dictate who posts where,
and again you utterly fail to make any kind of impact whatsoever.
Is it worth pointing out yet again that you do not control Usenet?
Is it worth pointing out, Frank (and this is important) that these groups
you claim to own are NOT actually "exclusively Christian" newsgroups? They
are in fact groups about Christianity - and that is something very
different. There is no reason why the people you hate so much, be they
atheists, other theists or the "wrong" kind of Christian, should not post
here if they choose to, because only in your addled mind is there a law
saying they cannot.
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Midjis
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Jul 2004 07:45:36 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:54:27 +0000 in episode
<Xns953164D28E469LibriumLibertasEst@217.32.252.50> we saw our hero Midjis
< @ . >:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
And again you make an utterly futile attempt to dictate who posts where,
and again you utterly fail to make any kind of impact whatsoever.
Is it worth pointing out yet again that you do not control Usenet?
Is it worth pointing out, Frank (and this is important) that these groups
you claim to own are NOT actually "exclusively Christian" newsgroups?
They are in fact groups about Christianity - and that is something very
different. There is no reason why the people you hate so much, be they
atheists, other theists or the "wrong" kind of Christian, should not post
here if they choose to, because only in your addled mind is there a law
saying they cannot.
What's weird about this go round is the thing about posting "exclusively"
somewhere. I wonder what the hell got into his addled brain that makes him
think if one is atheist, one *must post to an atheist ng (mandatory cross
posting?).
Suddenly, also, he's become obsessed with the FAQ/charter of a newsgroup.
After *years* of violating the one over here. In fact, I still wondering
why he changes ISPs with relative frequency. At one point, one of his
Usenet providers must have slapped a filter on him as he couldn't post to
a.a. at all unless he nym shifted.
Of course, he shrieked at "atheists" for "hacking" him. <sheesh>
(I was with the same Usenet provider at the time and knew their rules and
policies. *Tried to tell him needed to take the matter up with them and
stop dodging the filters with nym shifting. They did *not like nym
shifting and would can your account if they caught you doing it. Frank, of
course, shrieked full voice at me for even suggesting he brought the
problem on himself. Then he disappeared for a while. Hm....)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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27 Jul 2004 10:47:34 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:54:27 +0000, Midjis wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
And again you make an utterly futile attempt to dictate who posts where,
and again you utterly fail to make any kind of impact whatsoever.
Is it worth pointing out yet again that you do not control Usenet?
Is it worth pointing out, Frank (and this is important) that these groups
you claim to own are NOT actually "exclusively Christian" newsgroups? They
are in fact groups about Christianity - and that is something very
different. There is no reason why the people you hate so much, be they
atheists, other theists or the "wrong" kind of Christian, should not post
here if they choose to, because only in your addled mind is there a law
saying they cannot.
Frankenfundy, like a lot of Christian and Islamic nutcases,
would orgasm at the thought of sending nukes airborne
as well as having a whole shitload of machine guns and unlimited
ammo for rapacious slaughter for the greater glory of insanity.
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24 Jul 2004 11:01:22 PM |
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Reply to article by: "Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>
Date written: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:36:45 -0400
MsgID:<IGEMc.18980$Mk4.13284@nntp-post.primus.ca>
By the way, I want everyone to look at the topic change above. It went from "are
you a good person" to "in whose opinion are you a good person". This change was
made by a self-proclaimed Pastor, who's response typifies the thinking of
christians, ie -- christians are unable tell by themselves if they are good or
bad people unless someone else gives their opinion of whether they are good or
bad. In this case, that other "person" is a make believe God, but a belief in a
God, even the God of the Bible, is itself just another opinion. Even still, the
opinion of the opinion that the Bible can tell us if we are good or bad fails
from the get go, I as indicated by the discussion with Brandon on the ten
commandments.
I don't have to have someone else's opinon to determine right from wrong, so why
can't christians? Are they born lacking a built-in moral compass as I have?
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs.
No I don't.
Please post atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
No thank you. I will post wherever I feel it is appropriate.
The Sage
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25 Jul 2004 11:27:46 AM |
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Reply to article by: "Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>
Date written: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:18:37 -0400
MsgID:<TFPMc.20127$gP5.16537@nntp-post.primus.ca>
Please post atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
No thank you. I will post wherever I feel it is appropriate.
That is not good netiquette
What do you know about netiquette?
and if insults and ad hominem predominate,
it's called "abuse" and may get you suspended from posting in Usenet.
In that case, I will save your posting with Message-ID:
<QFPMc.20124$gP5.15880@nntp-post.primus.ca> so I can show how you
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alt.atheism.satire,alt.athiesm,alt.christnet.philosophy, and
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 09:30:40 AM |
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"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040725192619.U72382@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Repent in Christ Jesus NOW and be saved.
Repent from this infantilism & deal with life with a clearer eye, O dazed
& confused from the shock & awe of theological flumadiddle.
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
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| User: "bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 07:27:56 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<wP8Nc.22351$Bk1.15708@nntp-post.primus.ca>...
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040725192619.U72382@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Repent in Christ Jesus NOW and be saved.
Repent from this infantilism & deal with life with a clearer eye, O dazed
& confused from the shock & awe of theological flumadiddle.
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
Pastor Frank
Is it true pastor fake that you are really an atheist masquerading as a christian?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 10:58:55 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:27:56 -0700 in episode
<a9dd1b95.0407261627.527d6d3e@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
wildbluskies@hotmail.com (bluskie):
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message
news:<wP8Nc.22351$Bk1.15708@nntp-post.primus.ca>...
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040725192619.U72382@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Repent in Christ Jesus NOW and be saved.
Repent from this infantilism & deal with life with a clearer eye, O
dazed & confused from the shock & awe of theological flumadiddle.
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will
forward
this to your atheist NGs.
Pastor Frank
Is it true pastor fake that you are really an atheist masquerading as a
christian?
Well, he thinks "god" is just an ideal or quality, not a person...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
27 Jul 2004 11:08:15 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:27:56 -0700, bluskie wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote in message news:<wP8Nc.22351$Bk1.15708@nntp-post.primus.ca>...
"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
news:20040725192619.U72382@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:
Repent in Christ Jesus NOW and be saved.
Repent from this infantilism & deal with life with a clearer eye, O dazed
& confused from the shock & awe of theological flumadiddle.
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
Pastor Frank
Is it true pastor fake that you are really an atheist masquerading as a christian?
He's a christian trying to masquerade as a human being.
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| User: "Michael Yardley" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 02:43:35 PM |
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Far as him being a "pastor," you should try asking things like where
he was ordained and where is the congregation that recognizes him as a
"pastor."
What are your qualifications to say you are a "Pastor". Where did you
do your doctorate in Theology? How long have you been a Pastor? Are
you up to date on your IRS filings? Have you paid your taxes? Why
should you you have tax exempt status when I do not? Have you ever had
any trouble with the law? What about your criminal conviction? Have
you been given a background check by your current church for any cases
involving child abuse or allegations here off? If you do not want to
answer I will find out anyway. The hackers have access to the police
computer's.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 10:59:43 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:43:35 -0700 in episode
<858bd3a9.0407261143.48ab9350@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
yardleymj@yahoo.ca (Michael Yardley):
Far as him being a "pastor," you should try asking things like where
he was ordained and where is the congregation that recognizes him as a
"pastor."
What are your qualifications to say you are a "Pastor".
Less than mine. I actually *have an ordination. Okay, it's from the ULC.
But it's more than Flake has...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 06:35:23 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:30:40 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
And more childishness from Frank.
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 03:56:47 PM |
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"Midjis" < @ . > wrote in message
news:Xns953299583FC98LibriumLibertasEst@217.32.252.50...
Gwar <xeno@xor.qua> wrote:
Repent in Christ Jesus NOW and be saved.
Repent from this infantilism & deal with life with a clearer eye, O
dazed
& confused from the shock & awe of theological flumadiddle.
Well put.
Midjis
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
Pastor Frank
SATAN'S MINIONS
Jesus in John 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Mt:6:21: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mt:12:34: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good
things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mt:12:35: A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth
evil things.
2Pt:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
27 Jul 2004 10:23:32 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> wrote:
Well put.
Midjis
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
You can keep on doing it until you are blue in the face. Until you learn
to accept what these 'pristine' Christian groups of yours are for - and
your place in them - you will be fighting a losing battle. For the rest of
us, of course, there is no battle involved - it is only your fear that
turns this into a struggle for you.
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Midjis
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank |
26 Jul 2004 07:35:30 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:56:47 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
What a terrible thing it must be, to be pastor Frank. Wishing to
impose his will on the whole world, but lacking even the intelligence,
to be properly annoying.
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: AQOTM Nomination |
27 Jul 2004 11:04:09 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:35:30 +0100, Puck Greenman wrote:
Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:56:47 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will forward
this to your atheist NGs.
/begin
What a terrible thing it must be, to be pastor Frank. Wishing to
impose his will on the whole world, but lacking even the intelligence,
to be properly annoying.
Puck Greenman
/end
Seconds?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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27 Jul 2004 11:28:06 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in
news:pan.2004.07.28.04.04.09.847202@localhost.localdomain:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:35:30 +0100, Puck Greenman wrote:
Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:56:47 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will
forward
this to your atheist NGs.
/begin
What a terrible thing it must be, to be pastor Frank. Wishing to
impose his will on the whole world, but lacking even the
intelligence, to be properly annoying.
Puck Greenman
/end
Seconds?
Seconded, if only in honor of the fundie who gave me my name. I'm so proud
of him!
*snif* Lump in me throat. I'm choked up...I'd like a few moments, please...
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"It is interesting to note that the death
penalty for individuals is less controversial
than the mere suggestion that a few corporations
may have forfeited their right to exist. How many
people does a company have to harm before we question
if it ought to exist?"
-- Paul Hawken
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM Nomination |
27 Jul 2004 11:27:29 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.28.04.04.09.847202@localhost.localdomain...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:35:30 +0100, Puck Greenman wrote:
Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:56:47 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will
forward
this to your atheist NGs.
/begin
What a terrible thing it must be, to be pastor Frank. Wishing to
impose his will on the whole world, but lacking even the intelligence,
to be properly annoying.
Puck Greenman
/end
Seconds?
Absofuckinglutely.
It sums up the festering boil that is Pastor Frank perfectly.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM Nomination |
30 Jul 2004 04:16:35 AM |
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In article <RWFNc.30254$fv.7393@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.28.04.04.09.847202@localhost.localdomain...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 01:35:30 +0100, Puck Greenman wrote:
Re: The befuddled fiddle-faddle of Fundie Frank
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:56:47 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com> with calm deliberation, and malace
aforethought, wrote:
More atheism miss-posted to Christian NGs exclusively. I will
forward
this to your atheist NGs.
/begin
What a terrible thing it must be, to be pastor Frank. Wishing to
impose his will on the whole world, but lacking even the intelligence,
to be properly annoying.
Puck Greenman
/end
Seconds?
Absofuckinglutely.
Recorded.
It sums up the festering boil that is Pastor Frank perfectly.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Jul 2004 01:16:55 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:36:45 -0400 in episode
<IGEMc.18980$Mk4.13284@nntp-post.primus.ca> we saw our hero "Pastor Frank"
<PastorFrank@Christfirst.com>:
You post atheist clap-trap to exclusively Christian NGs. Please post
atheism to atheist NGs. Thank you.
Speaking of which, *LIAR,* I've been doing some back tracking on some of
the threads you're shrieking about. I found *you trashing *Christians.
One of these threads, you shrieked "atheist" and announced you were going
to "repost to atheist ngs" because of something written by a *theist you
didn't like.
It's all over those "pristine Christian ngs" that you trash anybody who
disagrees with you. *Christians are saying it about you.
This has to be my favorite post of yours so far:
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"Rev Richard Foot" <*****.foot.lies@broomleigh.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94BEB6EE19EDCritaritapalcom@127.0.0.1...
revolutionarian@earthlink.net (Lawrence Hyde) wrote :
Frosties also make a nice crunch sound.
I agree! But, the milk MUST
be more than half full.
Thanks.
They're great! They put a tiger in your tank.
Broomleigh Baptist Church
"All the Bible, all the time"
http://www.church.broomleigh.org/
When you shoot liberal atheist trash, they also make a nice croaking
sound, which gladdens the heart. Now, when will you finish your vacation and
get back to work ridding the world of God's enemies?
--
Pastor Frank
2Cor:12:11: I am become a fool in glorying
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Message-ID: <c06fef433a286baba9a5dbc5a23b7ed5@news.teranews.com>
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Yeah, *there's that "love" you talk about all the time. I think you
thought you were being funny. Interesting what you consider funny.
This particular thread (that we're in right now), you cross posted to
atheist ngs because you were mad at a *theist who disagreed with you.
As usual, you're not just a hypocrite, you're an idiot...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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