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One day you are in church braying out a hymn, next week you are
lining up the village jews along the edge of a pit to machine gun
them down.

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And if the good Christians could get away with the same thing today - they'd
do it! Only this time they'd add the Moslems, the Hindus, the Buddhists,
the ....

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:29:33 -0600, after pondering
deep thoughts, ô¿ô <oo@oo.net> spake thusly:

## No, YOU don't seem to get it. So I must assume that you
are either obtuse, or extremely stupid. You haven't disproved one
contradiction yet.

Once again, you assume they're contradictions. There
are no contradictions for me to disprove. Nor would it
be my job to disprove anything. You forget, you're the
one who started making claims about the text. You
prove that they are. So far, you haven't done that.

You assume that they are contradictions. They are not.

## What would you call them? Different writers writing contradictory things
about the same issues - what would YOU call that if not contradictions?

You assume this, because of how they appear to you. It
never even occurs to you, that maybe they're taken out
of context, as one example.

## They're the SAME scriptures!!! SNIP your BS and inability to prove
they're not blatant contradictions.

Snip your arrogant ego and try reading further than
just what some atheist web page says.

I'll tell ya what I'll do. I'll give you the first
one. But don't ask for any more. This is all you get.
Showing you that this one isn't a contradiction, should
be enough to make you see that you shouldn't trust web
pages for your information. If this doesn't make you
want to look into the rest with some actual research,
then no amount will.

Supposed contradiction:
God creates animals and then man - Gen 1:25-26
God creates man and then the animals - Gen 2:18-19

First we must remember that there were no chapter, nor
verse breaks in the original text. So where to divide
it was a matter of preference. The one we have is what
caught on.

Genesis 2:7-? is an expansion on the sixth day.

Try this... Break the chapters of Genesis thusly...
Chapter 1 ends with 2:6. Now start chapter 2. What
you'll find, is that God made man. This is day 6. He
planted him in the Garden of Eden. Then He made the
things listed afterward, IN THE GARDEN. He made the
trees, etc. and the animals and brought them to Adam,
to see what he would name them. He didn't make all of
the animals, but rather, just one more of each animal,
IN THE GARDEN. This is confirmed, by reading vs 9, 10,
16, etc., where it says, IN THE GARDEN. Chapter 2 is
discussing THE GARDEN, not the entire Earth.

Thus we see that Genesis 1 is an overview of the entire
Creation.

To repeat, Genesis 2 expands on the sixth day. It
describes the Creation in the Garden of Eden. Read the
text CAREFULLY. It describes the creation of the
garden and THEN the creation of the things within the
garden. The animals, for example, were created in the
garden. Not the original creation of animals, but
simply another one, to be put in front of Adam, for him
to name.

In more detail...

Note: As I said, read Genesis 2:1-6 as a continuation
of Genesis 1 and you'll see it's a better fit there.

Note: Genesis 2:7, goes into the sixth day, in which
man is created.

Note: Genesis 2:8 shows that God made the Garden of
Eden.

Note: As I said, Genesis 2:9 is discussing the creation
of plants, etc., IN THE GARDEN. How do we know this?
Read Genesis 2:10. It clearly talks about the river
going into the garden. Thus, Genesis 2:9 is surrounded
(v8 + v10) by two statements about the garden.

Note: It continues to discuss the garden and then, in
v19, makes the statement about the creation of animals,
but only for the purpose of seeing what Adam will name
them and THEY ARE STILL IN THE GARDEN, which is where
the context of the verses say that this takes place.
All of this was on the sixth day, AFTER the rest of the
world and life was already created.

Genesis 2 is simply a more detailed account of what
happened on the sixth day.

Opinion: This is why Eve was fooled and not Adam. Adam
saw God create. Eve didn't.

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Pastor Dave Raymond

Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99

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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:16:45 -0600, after pondering
deep thoughts, ".." <EvilSpirits@theWTSs.net> spake
thusly:

True, some atheists are very intelligent. Evidently you should try
reading the Bible sometime and you would soon learn that your
thousands of contradictions FACT is not a fact at all.

## Show us the same scriptures that have the SAME information and not

contradictions he pointed out.

You don't seem to get it. So I must assume that you
are either obtuse, or stupid.

You assume that they are contradictions. They are not.
You assume this, because of how they appear to you. It
never even occurs to you, that maybe they're taken out
of context, as one example.

The door is black.

The door is white.

Contradiction? Not if it's not the same door, or it is
the same door and has been painted since the original
statement.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:16:45 -0600, after pondering
deep thoughts, ".." <EvilSpirits@theWTSs.net> spake
thusly:

True, some atheists are very intelligent. Evidently you should try
reading the Bible sometime and you would soon learn that your
thousands of contradictions FACT is not a fact at all.

## Show us the same scriptures that have the SAME information and not the
contradictions he pointed out.

You don't seem to get it. So I must assume that you
are either obtuse, or stupid.

You assume that they are contradictions. They are not.

You assume this, because of how they appear to you.

It
never even occurs to you, that maybe they're taken out
of context, as one example.

The door is black.

The door is white.

Contradiction? Not if it's not the same door, or it is
the same door and has been painted since the original
statement.

But you go ahead and think you're smarter than all
Christians in the world.