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Religions > Atheism |
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"Pastor Frank" |
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25 Nov 2005 01:47:59 AM |
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Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
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"Sikhi" <ask@me.com> wrote in message
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First of all Bill, no one on this earth has been able to keep a human
alive for 200 years or more.
Irrelivent.
What to speak of create a human or an ant for that
matter from scratch, not by sexual intercourse etc.
Totally meaningless.
If you consider humans
intelligent, then it is obivous that their intelligence is insufficient
to understand how a human body is created.
Totally meaningless - what humans can or cannot do has nothing to do with
anything else.
Therefore, how can you concluded that it doesn't take any intelligence to
create the world?
How can you conclude it does?
All you are saying, here, is that because humans have limitations - there
must be a god.
TOTALLY irrational and illogical statement!
It takes intelligence to make cars and other machines.
But, it didn't take any intelligence to create humans, the most complex
machine on this planet! Come on.... this is a logical conclusion!
No; it isn't.
It takes intelligence to create (as man has done) NON natural things.
That has nothing at all to do with what is created in nature!
Two of the obviousd flaws in this - so called - thinking are that:
1: We have evidence that man created created those un-natural things
......... we have absolutelky NO evidence that some unsupported "god"
created anything.
2: Then there MUST have been something that created that fod!
Only an
idoit would conclude that the car in their garage appeared by chance.
Of course, that's why scientists don' use that word in defining either
evolution of humans, or the creation/evolution of the univeerse. It is
ONLY (mis) used by unintelligent creations who bellow simple minded
arguements that have no solid, rational, logicl or scientific basis.
My
lawn mower exploded and when the dust cleared there was a Toyota Minivan!
But, you actually believe that's how the most complicated machine on the
planet, a human, just came into existence, a result of an accident. Since
chance is so marvelous, why do we need scientist, let everything happen
by chance!
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make and
spend money, isn't it?
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| User: "L.Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 03:55:46 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
"Sikhi" <ask@me.com> wrote in message
news:ycyaf.28370$NJ.6058@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
First of all Bill, no one on this earth has been able to keep a human
alive for 200 years or more.
Irrelivent.
What to speak of create a human or an ant for that
matter from scratch, not by sexual intercourse etc.
Totally meaningless.
If you consider humans
intelligent, then it is obivous that their intelligence is insufficient
to understand how a human body is created.
Totally meaningless - what humans can or cannot do has nothing to do with
anything else.
Therefore, how can you concluded that it doesn't take any intelligence to
create the world?
How can you conclude it does?
All you are saying, here, is that because humans have limitations - there
must be a god.
TOTALLY irrational and illogical statement!
It takes intelligence to make cars and other machines.
But, it didn't take any intelligence to create humans, the most complex
machine on this planet! Come on.... this is a logical conclusion!
No; it isn't.
It takes intelligence to create (as man has done) NON natural things.
That has nothing at all to do with what is created in nature!
Two of the obviousd flaws in this - so called - thinking are that:
1: We have evidence that man created created those un-natural things
......... we have absolutelky NO evidence that some unsupported "god"
created anything.
2: Then there MUST have been something that created that fod!
Only an
idoit would conclude that the car in their garage appeared by chance.
Of course, that's why scientists don' use that word in defining either
evolution of humans, or the creation/evolution of the univeerse. It is
ONLY (mis) used by unintelligent creations who bellow simple minded
arguements that have no solid, rational, logicl or scientific basis.
My
lawn mower exploded and when the dust cleared there was a Toyota Minivan!
But, you actually believe that's how the most complicated machine on the
planet, a human, just came into existence, a result of an accident. Since
chance is so marvelous, why do we need scientist, let everything happen
by chance!
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 04:05:00 PM |
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money, which
group is "money oriented?"
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| User: "L.Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 04:09:45 PM |
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Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money, which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
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| User: "Bill Gamelson" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 04:31:49 PM |
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133107785.762909.11200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money,
which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
For themselves!
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| User: "L.Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 04:37:25 PM |
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Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133107785.762909.11200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money,
which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
For themselves!
no, because then they would be conservatives
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 08:54:08 PM |
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"L.Roberts" wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133107785.762909.11200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money,
which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
For themselves!
no, because then they would be conservatives
===>No difference,
They both like to keep their own and take yours,
to spend it one their pet projects. -- L.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 05:13:05 PM |
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On 27 Nov 2005 08:37:25 -0800, "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133107785.762909.11200@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money,
which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
For themselves!
no, because then they would be conservatives
'Conservatives' like Gamelson take great liberties. Especially with
the truth. They do love their Xtian 'sacrament' of bearing false
witness.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
27 Nov 2005 08:53:05 PM |
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"L.Roberts" wrote:
Bill Gamelson wrote:
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are. so called christians make up
the lion's share of the consumer base in america. and look at how
blessed they are, ever watched as the obese pigs waddle into and out of
churches on sunday? wait'll you see the documentary I am putting
together, lol. almost half of all american's voted conservative (money
orientated), the gluttonous half.
L.Roberts.
If Conservatives want to keep money, and Liberals want to take money, which
group is "money oriented?"
take money? for?
===>They BOTH like to take money from others and keep
their own.
What for?
For whatever they wish to spend it on, so long as
it is not their own money. -- L.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 09:47:33 AM |
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 04:53:42 PM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
05 Dec 2005 08:35:05 PM |
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"Mark Donovan" <markd@dmark.org> wrote in message
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"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
It's easy to answer your questions. There is NO intelligent designer.
Gods did not create man but quite the opposite: man created gods!
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| User: "Jason" |
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29 Nov 2005 05:15:07 PM |
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA. Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
--
NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO
We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice.
We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 05:46:53 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to
make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness
and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works,
so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is
no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA. Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
I'm not responsible for other people's wrongdoings. That's the basic premise
of freedom. Take this premise away and you've got slavery. Judging anybody
or everybody guilty for what their ancestors did or didn't do, and making
them suffer for it, is preposterous and immensely cruel.
If illnesses of the human race were the result of incest between Eve and her
sons, inbreeding and more inbreeding after The Great Flood, God should have
known a better way to arrange things in the first place. What a lousy job,
indeed!
Mark
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29 Nov 2005 09:59:21 PM |
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In article <hu0jf.8600$KZ2.7391@trnddc05>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
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Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to
make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness
and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works,
so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is
no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA. Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
I'm not responsible for other people's wrongdoings. That's the basic premise
of freedom. Take this premise away and you've got slavery. Judging anybody
or everybody guilty for what their ancestors did or didn't do, and making
them suffer for it, is preposterous and immensely cruel.
If illnesses of the human race were the result of incest between Eve and her
sons, inbreeding and more inbreeding after The Great Flood, God should have
known a better way to arrange things in the first place. What a lousy job,
indeed!
Mark
Mark,
He gave people free will. Is it God's fault when people that have free
will do things that they should not do.
Parents have the same problem. They do everything they can to raise their
children properly. However, children have free will. If those children end
up killing people or robbing people--is it the parent's fault? I don't
think so. I would blame the children and not the parents.
That's the reason that I don't blame God when people become serial killers
and child molesters. I also don't blame God for the things that Hitler
done.
Jason
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 10:21:22 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <hu0jf.8600$KZ2.7391@trnddc05>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
Mark,
He gave people free will. Is it God's fault when people that have free
will do things that they should not do.
Parents have the same problem. They do everything they can to raise their
children properly. However, children have free will. If those children end
up killing people or robbing people--is it the parent's fault? I don't
think so. I would blame the children and not the parents.
That's the reason that I don't blame God when people become serial killers
and child molesters. I also don't blame God for the things that Hitler
done.
Jason
Why then chemical contents of each brain differ so substantially? Why some
bodies produce excessive amounts of adrenaline, thus making those people
more violent and aggressive, while others never get a lot of it, thus being
reluctant to make a lot of noise or anything worse than that?
Why some people always have large amounts of dopamine and serotonine in
their brain and therefore are in good mood and friendly disposition most of
the time, while others naturally have depletion of both those substances,
and tend to be sad, depressed, anxious? Couple that lack of serotinine with
an excess of testosterone and adrenaline, and you have a walking human bomb
ready to explode.
If everybody were to have a free will, wouldn't everybody need to have a
biochemical balance in their brains first?
Trust me, there are chemicals in the world which, if taken internally, could
make anybody, yourself including, to act weird, crazy, even violent. What if
some people have the same chemicals present in their brains naturally and at
all times? Not only what if, but why?!
Mark
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 10:02:31 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <hu0jf.8600$KZ2.7391@trnddc05>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive.
LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to
make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and
the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness
and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in
every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created
such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why
the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that
it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine,
cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that
works,
so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there
is
no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were
perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the
world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA.
Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
I'm not responsible for other people's wrongdoings. That's the basic
premise
of freedom. Take this premise away and you've got slavery. Judging
anybody
or everybody guilty for what their ancestors did or didn't do, and making
them suffer for it, is preposterous and immensely cruel.
If illnesses of the human race were the result of incest between Eve and
her
sons, inbreeding and more inbreeding after The Great Flood, God should
have
known a better way to arrange things in the first place. What a lousy
job,
indeed!
Mark
Mark,
He gave people free will. Is it God's fault when people that have free
will do things that they should not do.
Parents have the same problem. They do everything they can to raise their
children properly. However, children have free will. If those children end
up killing people or robbing people--is it the parent's fault? I don't
think so. I would blame the children and not the parents.
That's the reason that I don't blame God when people become serial killers
and child molesters. I also don't blame God for the things that Hitler
done.
Even though he could have stopped it?
If you knew your son or daughter was going to have millions of people
murdered, you wouldn't try to stop them from carrying this out?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 10:32:53 PM |
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In article <3v41dsF143lm4U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <hu0jf.8600$KZ2.7391@trnddc05>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive.
LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to
make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and
the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness
and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in
every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created
such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why
the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that
it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine,
cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that
works,
so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there
is
no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were
perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the
world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA.
Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
I'm not responsible for other people's wrongdoings. That's the basic
premise
of freedom. Take this premise away and you've got slavery. Judging
anybody
or everybody guilty for what their ancestors did or didn't do, and making
them suffer for it, is preposterous and immensely cruel.
If illnesses of the human race were the result of incest between Eve and
her
sons, inbreeding and more inbreeding after The Great Flood, God should
have
known a better way to arrange things in the first place. What a lousy
job,
indeed!
Mark
Mark,
He gave people free will. Is it God's fault when people that have free
will do things that they should not do.
Parents have the same problem. They do everything they can to raise their
children properly. However, children have free will. If those children end
up killing people or robbing people--is it the parent's fault? I don't
think so. I would blame the children and not the parents.
That's the reason that I don't blame God when people become serial killers
and child molesters. I also don't blame God for the things that Hitler
done.
Even though he could have stopped it?
If you knew your son or daughter was going to have millions of people
murdered, you wouldn't try to stop them from carrying this out?
Hello,
Great point. I don't know why God does not stop people like Hitler.
Perhaps he expects people to stop people like Hitler. Did you notice the
news in recent days related to Bush. He stopped a dictator that killed
thousands of people and even had rape rooms and his sons rapped hundreds
of women in front of their husbands. Bush stopped him and look what has
happened to Bush. The liberals in Congress that voted in favor of the war
are not demanding that we stop the war effort. Do you think that Bush will
stop the genocide in Darfur after what has happened in Iraq? I doubt if
Bush will become involved in any other wars due to what has happened in
relation to Iraq. Even if 10 million people in Darfur are murdered--Bush
won't start another war.
Jason
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
30 Nov 2005 02:32:48 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <3v41dsF143lm4U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
Even though he could have stopped it?
If you knew your son or daughter was going to have millions of people
murdered, you wouldn't try to stop them from carrying this out?
Hello,
Great point. I don't know why God does not stop people like Hitler.
Perhaps he expects people to stop people like Hitler.
Um, but wouldn't he know ahead of time how long that would take and how many
people would be murdered in the meantime? Guess he must not have given a
***** about all those innocent people.
<Bush crap snipped due to lack of interest>
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Dec 2005 07:27:23 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:32:48 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <3v41dsF143lm4U1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
Even though he could have stopped it?
If you knew your son or daughter was going to have millions of people
murdered, you wouldn't try to stop them from carrying this out?
Hello,
Great point. I don't know why God does not stop people like Hitler.
Perhaps he expects people to stop people like Hitler.
Um, but wouldn't he know ahead of time how long that would take and how many
people would be murdered in the meantime? Guess he must not have given a
***** about all those innocent people.
Neither does ShrubCo.
<Bush crap snipped due to lack of interest>
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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29 Nov 2005 09:54:49 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to
make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness
and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half
the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works,
so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that
heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works,
so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works,
so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands
of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is
no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve. They were perfect. There children were perfect.
After they sinned -that's when sickness and disease entered in the world.
Thousands of years later, the entire gene pool has been contaminated by
all sorts of diseases. Many of the diseases are related to the DNA. Don't
blame God--blame Adam and Eve.
Jason
Typical religious nonsense. Animals and vegitation also suffer from
thousands of destructive dissases.
Why is your god punishing people animals and plants that had nothing do with
Eve biting an apple?
He is not very smart is he?
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 06:14:06 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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snip
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
Prove it.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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29 Nov 2005 09:53:48 PM |
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In article <3v3k1iF13u2cgU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jason-2911050915070001@pm4-broad-51.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
snip
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
Prove it.
After someone invents a time machine, I will prove it.
Prove in an experiment that life can evolve from non-life.
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29 Nov 2005 10:00:10 PM |
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"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <3v3k1iF13u2cgU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
Prove it.
After someone invents a time machine, I will prove it.
Uh huh, right.
Prove in an experiment that life can evolve from non-life.
Why should I? I haven't made any such claim.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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01 Dec 2005 07:34:35 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:53:48 -0800, (Jason) wrote:
In article <3v3k1iF13u2cgU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Jason" < > wrote in message
news:jason-2911050915070001@pm4-broad-51.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
snip
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
Prove it.
After someone invents a time machine, I will prove it.
Cop out.
Prove in an experiment that life can evolve from non-life.
That has a better chance of happening than you proving your adam & eve story.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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29 Nov 2005 05:41:26 PM |
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Jason wrote:
In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
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"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
===>Actually, it says that some ET named YHWH ELOHIM
sculpted the first man and animals out of mud.
He forgot to make him a mate, wanted him to do it with
some animals, Adam did not like that, so YHWH ELOHIM
made a mate for him from one of his ribs.
Isn't THAT what you believe?
.
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| User: "Jason" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 10:01:16 PM |
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In article <438C92C6.125FF675@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is
to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so
that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
===>Actually, it says that some ET named YHWH ELOHIM
sculpted the first man and animals out of mud.
He forgot to make him a mate, wanted him to do it with
some animals, Adam did not like that, so YHWH ELOHIM
made a mate for him from one of his ribs.
Isn't THAT what you believe?
No--your version of the story is very different than
the story in the Bible.
--
NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
29 Nov 2005 11:53:45 PM |
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Jason wrote:
In article <438C92C6.125FF675@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is
to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species? And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so
that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works, so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine, cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
===>Actually, it says that some ET named YHWH ELOHIM
sculpted the first man and animals out of mud.
He forgot to make him a mate, wanted him to do it with
some animals, Adam did not like that, so YHWH ELOHIM
made a mate for him from one of his ribs.
Isn't THAT what you believe?
No--your version of the story is very different than
the story in the Bible.
===>Tell me: how is it different?
You must not know the story very well! -- L.
.
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| User: "Jason" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
30 Nov 2005 02:51:31 AM |
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In article <438CEA09.51298506@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <438C92C6.125FF675@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial
incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is
to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president
and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the
kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse
in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who
created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species?
And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so
that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works,
so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine,
cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that
works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so
there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
===>Actually, it says that some ET named YHWH ELOHIM
sculpted the first man and animals out of mud.
He forgot to make him a mate, wanted him to do it with
some animals, Adam did not like that, so YHWH ELOHIM
made a mate for him from one of his ribs.
Isn't THAT what you believe?
No--your version of the story is very different than
the story in the Bible.
===>Tell me: how is it different?
You must not know the story very well! -- L.
-L.,
God made Adam and expected him to be happy.
It was obvious that Adam was lonely so God
created Eve to become his wife.
If you want the real story, read the
first two chapters of the Bible.
Jason
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
30 Nov 2005 10:55:23 PM |
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Jason wrote:
In article <438CEA09.51298506@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <438C92C6.125FF675@Nothing_But_The.Truth>, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:
Jason wrote:
In article <qI%if.3552$TI4.1918@trnddc02>, "Mark Donovan"
<markd@dmark.org> wrote:
"Pastor Frank" <PastorFrank@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:1133257653.acfb6e8c62db48adbdf740838dbc22bd@fe5.teranews.com...
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133106945.976774.286450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message
news:11mn419fk81pr8c@corp.supernews.com...
Again, just using irrational thinking based on religious zealots
ignorance
and mental corruption.
No. Just irrational atheist trashing and flaming, by one who
thinks
he
knows, but won't tell ......without suitable financial
incentive. LOL
After all it's atheist doctine, that the purpose in life is
to make
and
spend money, isn't it?
lol, and look how money orientated your born again president
and the
religioustic peeps who voted for him are.
"money oriented"? You must be kidding!!! Lets see how "money
oriented"
you would be, if you income were totally dependent upon the
kindness and
free will offerings of other people. With you screeching abuse
in every
post, no one would give you anything but brickbats.
Why would anyone need to worship such a lousy creator, who
created such
violent, stupid, weak, physically and mentally inept species?
And why the
creator is suffering from such a low self-esteem, which needs to
constantly
be elevated by praising and worshipping him?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design eyes that work, so that
half the
people on the planet don't need eyeglasses?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a sense of hunger that
works, so
that people are not threatened by obesity?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a heart that works, so
that heart
disease is not the number one killer in the United States?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a digestive system that
works, so
that people are not constantly bothered by diarrhea and constipation?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design a brain that works,
so that it
does not suffer from addictions to alcohol, nicotine, heroine,
cocaine,
gambling, etc.?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design an immune system that
works, so
that there is no such thing as the common cold (and all of the
thousands of
other diseases)?
Why didn't the Intelligent Designer design hair that works, so
there is no
such thing as male pattern baldness?
Much more at:
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/articles/braindesign/
Mark
Mark,
God created Adam and Eve.
===>Actually, it says that some ET named YHWH ELOHIM
sculpted the first man and animals out of mud.
He forgot to make him a mate, wanted him to do it with
some animals, Adam did not like that, so YHWH ELOHIM
made a mate for him from one of his ribs.
Isn't THAT what you believe?
No--your version of the story is very different than
the story in the Bible.
===>Tell me: how is it different?
You must not know the story very well! -- L.
-L.,
God made Adam and expected him to be happy.
===>The story says YHWH ELOHIM mad him out of mud.
He "formed the man from the dust of the ground
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life." (NIV)
And it does not say he "expected him to be happy".
Your version is not in the Bible. Mine is.
It was obvious that Adam was lonely so God
created Eve to become his wife.
===>Why was it not "obvious" to YHWH ELOHIM
right away?
Again, the story says at first YHWH ELOHIM brought him
ANIMALS when he realized Adam was "lonely". He
"formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and
all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man...
But for Adam no suitable helper was found." (NIV)
If you want the real story, read the
first two chapters of the Bible.
===>The first two chapters present two totally
different creation fables.
I was referring to the second one | | | | | | | | | |
