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Religions > Atheism |
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"Pastor Frank" |
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27 Nov 2005 08:17:04 AM |
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Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? |
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY Gods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not working.
Bill has been chanting those atheist mantras for years in our pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for our
Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
But Bill declines to believe us and keeps on chanting the same atheist
mantras ad nauseam and ad infinitum. I'm afraid, that any further discussion
with Bill is the casting one's pearls to the swine, which Jesus warned us
about. See below
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and
turn again and rend you.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
27 Nov 2005 02:49:58 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY Gods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not working.
Bill has been chanting those atheist mantras for years in our pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for our
Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-hating
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himself! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
01 Dec 2005 05:45:29 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:438A1BF6.5B361E68@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and
that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always
was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of
the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY Gods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not
working.
Bill has been chanting those atheist mantras for years in our
pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully
agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for
our
Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that
love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-hating
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himself! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
Looks like I tweeked Satan's tail here to have him foaming at the mouth
like that. LOL
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| User: "Del" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
01 Dec 2005 12:44:05 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:438A1BF6.5B361E68@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@ dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and
that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always
was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of
the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY G ods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not
working.
Bill has be en chanting those atheist mantras for years in our
pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully
agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for
our
Christia n "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that
love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-hating
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himsel f! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
Looks like I tweeked Satan's tail here to have him foaming at the mouth
like that. LOL
It is no surprise that faux Christians must rely on
logical fallacies like ad hominem.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
01 Dec 2005 02:25:43 PM |
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Del wrote:
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:438A1BF6.5B361E68@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@ dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and
that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always
was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of
the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY G ods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not
working.
Bill has be en chanting those atheist mantras for years in our
pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully
agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for
our
Christia n "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that
love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-hating
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himsel f! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
Looks like I tweeked Satan's tail here to have him foaming at the mouth
like that. LOL
It is no surprise that faux Christians must rely on
logical fallacies like ad hominem.
===>It is no surprise that the likes of you don't know
what you are talking about.
HINT: those comments have nothing to do with "ad hominem". -- L.
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| User: "Del" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
03 Dec 2005 06:11:13 AM |
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Libertarius wrote:
Del wrote:
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:438A1BF6.5B361E68@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@ yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@ dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the univer se would need a God creator and
that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always
was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of
the
U niverse. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY G ods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not
working.
Bill has be en chanting those atheist mantras for years in our
pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully
agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for
our
Christia n "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that
love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-ha ting
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himsel f! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
Looks l ike I tweeked Satan's tail here to have him foaming at the mouth
like that. LOL
It is no surprise that faux Christians must rely on
logical fallacies like ad hominem.
===>It is no surprise that the likes of you don't know
what you are talking about.
HINT: those comments have nothing to do with "ad hominem". -- L.
Don't be absurd.
"The argumentum ad hominem, meaning 'argument directed
to the man,' is the kind of argument that criticizes the arguer
rather than his argument." -- Walton, Douglas N. Informal
Logic. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1989 p. 134.
The fallacy of personal attack is an argument that diverts
attention away from the question being argued by focusing
instead on those arguing it." --Engel, S. Morris. With Good
Reason: An Introduction to Informal Fallacies. Second ed.,
New York: St. Martin's Press, 1982. p.166
The Latin term ad hominem means "against the man" and refers
to an attack on the person rather than on the argument or the
issue. --Rottenberg, Annette T. The Structure of Argument.
Boston: Bedford Books of St. Martin's Press, 1994. p. 225
The fallacy of ad hominem argument, sometimes called the
genetic fallacy, consists of an irrelevant attack on the person
argued against, rather than his argument. --Kahane, Howard.
Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric. New York: Wadsworth,
1974. p. 255
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: INTELLIGENT DESIGN??? -- Fake "Pastor" Frank is no Christian |
01 Dec 2005 02:23:49 PM |
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Pastor Frank wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:438A1BF6.5B361E68@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Pastor Frank wrote:
"Bill Gamelson" <bill_gamelson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:CGaaf.276$2C.73@dukeread03...
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Y7af.47815$Pp1.37118@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Religious types claim that the universe would need a God creator and
that
God always was. It is more logical to conclude the Universe always
was.
There is physical objective verifiable evidence for the existence of
the
Universe. There is absolutely no objective verifiable evidence for the
existence of ANY Gods.
Why do you keep bringing this subject up and dragging it out until it's
dead only to bring it back up again? Why?
If you are trying to create an atheist from a believer, it's not
working.
Bill has been chanting those atheist mantras for years in our
pristine
Christian NGs, all without success. We keep telling him, that we fully
agree
with him, and that the god(s) of his definition do indeed not exist, for
our
Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) and we are quite certain, that
love
DOES exist and so does our God therefore.
===>You keep confirming that the entire set of "pristine Christian NGs"
consists only of your sick Neo-Marcionite multiple personality.
No other Christian believes your Jew-hating, OT-Hating, YHWH-hating
nonsense. For one thing, they Christians believe that the deity you deny
as the "God of the Jews" was either the natural father of Jesus or
even Jesus himself! This you obviously disapprove of. -- L.
Looks like I tweeked Satan's tail here to have him foaming at the mouth
like that. LOL
===>The "Satan" is yourself, fake "pastor", the chief accuser! -- L
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