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03 Feb 2005 08:41:57 AM |
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Re: Is Anyone Here an ADVENTIST?! |
In article <1107423912.431243.254020@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Orion7
says...
Don't you know evolution is a farce? You are obviously a product of the
brain washing which goes on in our Schools, Colleges and Universities.
I have seen the desperate lengths these Professors and Scientists go to
make people believe in evolution, even fabricating evidence to support
their unsupportable theories.
1st Rule of Creationism: Ignored evidence will go away
2nd Rule of Creationism: Interpret any challenge as personal insult
3rd Rule of Creationism: Claim evidence then quietly slip away
4th Rule of Creationism: Don't be confused by facts
5th Rule of Creationism: Insist that science ignores your proof
6th Rule of Creationism: Claim superiority for Christian education.
7th Rule of Creationism: Always appear to know more than you do.
8th Rule of Creationism: Shift the burden of proof to your critics.
9th Rule of Creationism: Lying for the Lord is okay.
10th Rule of Creationism: Never acknowledge your demonstrated errors
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MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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03 Feb 2005 05:41:42 PM |
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"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually a hoax.
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05 Feb 2005 05:19:12 PM |
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"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:36fr5kF4vejmlU1@individual.net:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message
news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life
springs up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages.
Then very very recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually
a hoax.
Go back under your rock, barbarian.
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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04 Feb 2005 04:58:56 AM |
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"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
....And decides, in his fear, and/or arrogance, that as he was not there to see
it, it never happened.
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Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
January 27th
Na bister 500,000
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04 Feb 2005 04:26:36 PM |
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A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies, and
our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries, and
centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to look
at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology, genetics,
morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology, history,
radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A curious
hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
Fossils: God's little jokes.
Kermit
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| User: "snex" |
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04 Feb 2005 04:29:53 PM |
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wrote:
A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies,
and
our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries, and
centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to look
at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology, genetics,
morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology, history,
radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A curious
hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
Fossils: God's little jokes.
Kermit
meteorology??
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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05 Feb 2005 01:00:34 AM |
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On 4 Feb 2005 14:29:53 -0800, "snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote:
unrestrained_h...@hotmail.com wrote:
A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies,
and
our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries, and
centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to look
at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology, genetics,
morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology, history,
radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A curious
hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
Fossils: God's little jokes.
Kermit
meteorology??
I took it to mean, "the study of climate, and climatic change". It would
certainly be a factor in evolutionary change.
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Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
January 27th
Na bister 500,000
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10 Feb 2005 03:41:41 PM |
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snex wrote:
unrestrained_h...@hotmail.com wrote:
A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies,
and
our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries, and
centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to
look
at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology,
genetics,
morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology, history,
radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A curious
hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
Fossils: God's little jokes.
Kermit
meteorology??
One of the *many special problems with the global flood of genesis.
Among other things, it is recorded that this was not only the biggest
rain ever, it was the *first rain. A biblical literalist has to explain
(well, if he wants to sound sane) why it didn't and couldn't rain
before the deluge.
And if water didn't evaporate and condense in the usual manner ("there
were different laws of physics then...") how could humans sweat and
cool off? Why were some plants "designed" to catch water? Etc.
Kermit
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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04 Feb 2005 08:04:26 PM |
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wrote:
A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies,
and our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries,
and centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to
look at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology,
genetics, morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology,
history, radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A
curious hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
A hoax that has drug companies laughing all the way to the bank and
electronics firms drooling over the possibilities that the application of
the theory will show.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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04 Feb 2005 06:23:30 PM |
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on 04 Feb 2005 in alt.atheism, dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
A curious hoax that has planted evidence in the grounds, the skies, and
our very genetic code. A hoax that spans languages, countries, and
centuries, A "hoax" that can be confirmed by anyone who wants to look
at the evidence. A "hoax" in which the evidence of geology, genetics,
morphology, behavioral science, meteorology, paleontology, history,
radiochemistry, all converge on the same "wrong" answer. A curious
hoax, that. Even your creator god seem to be in on it.
Fossils: God's little jokes.
Kermit
He's testing us, you know...
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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03 Feb 2005 06:10:27 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message
news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life
springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then
very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually
a hoax.
evidence?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Feb 2005 12:37:20 AM |
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On 3 Feb 2005 16:10:27 -0800, "snex" <snex@comcast.net> said in
alt.atheism:
Andrew wrote:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message
news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually a hoax.
evidence?
The Moronic interpretation of the bible.
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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03 Feb 2005 07:54:59 PM |
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On 03 Feb 2005, Andrew dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message
news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life
springs up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages.
Then very very recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually
a hoax.
Sure it is. I'll bet you believe the Apollo moon shot was a hoax too.
Were you just a little disappointed when there was no divine UFO behind
Hale-Bop?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you
wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "John Baker" |
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04 Feb 2005 02:27:21 AM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:41:42 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
wrote:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually a hoax.
Are you naturally this stupid, or did you take lessons?
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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04 Feb 2005 05:00:11 AM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:41:42 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message news:Xns95F29A59AB4AAvicman@127.0.0.1...
Funny, how the earth has been around for a few billion years. Life springs
up, animal species evolve and become extinct over the ages. Then very very
recently, a species called homo sapiens evolves..
I'm sorry to tell this to you Vic, but the above teaching is actually a hoax.
I don't suppose that you have some sort of tangible evidence, to support your
assertion?
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
January 27th
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Orion7" |
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03 Feb 2005 04:08:32 PM |
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hes been "coming soon" for 2000 years now
You Don't know a Day with God is as a Thousand Years.... it only been 2
Days.
Yeah, any day now, right?
It could be sooner then that!!!
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03 Feb 2005 04:29:12 PM |
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"Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107468512.586101.9160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
hes been "coming soon" for 2000 years now
You Don't know a Day with God is as a Thousand Years.... it only been 2
Days.
Oh, the old "god days" baloney. Can you prove this?
Yeah, any day now, right?
It could be sooner then that!!!
Prove it.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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03 Feb 2005 05:17:30 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" wrote in message news:36fmtoF50lkokU1@individual.net...
"Orion7" wrote:
hes been "coming soon" for 2000 years now
You Don't know a Day with God is as a Thousand Years.... it only been 2 Days.
Oh, the old "god days" baloney. Can you prove this?
Yeah, any day now, right?
It could be sooner then that!!!
Prove it.
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"In the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth and do every evil thing
they desire. This will be their argument: "Jesus promised to come back, did he? Then
where is he? Why, as far back as anyone can remember, everything has remained
exactly the same since the world was first created."
They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his command, and he
brought the earth up from the water and surrounded it with water. Then he used the water
to destroy the world with a mighty flood. And God has also commanded that the heavens
and the earth will be consumed by fire on the day of judgment, when ungodly people will
perish.
But you must not forget, dear friends, that a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and
a thousand years is like a day. The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return,
as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to
perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent. But the day of the Lord will come
as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and every-
thing in them will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be exposed to
judgment.
Since everything around us is going to melt away, what holy, godly lives you should be
living! You should look forward to that day and hurry it along--the day when God will
set the heavens on fire and the elements will melt away in the flames.
But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world
where everyone is right with God. And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these
things to happen, make every effort to live a pure and blameless life."
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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03 Feb 2005 06:06:32 PM |
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"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:36fpo8F50h0dkU1@individual.net:
"In the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth
and do every evil thing they desire. This will be their argument:
"Jesus promised to come back, did he? Then where is he? Why, as far
back as anyone can remember, everything has remained exactly the same
since the world was first created."
They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his
command, and he brought the earth up from the water and surrounded it
with water. Then he used the water to destroy the world with a mighty
flood. And God has also commanded that the heavens and the earth will
be consumed by fire on the day of judgment, when ungodly people will
perish.
But you must not forget, dear friends, that a day is like a thousand
years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day. The Lord isn't
really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think.
No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to
perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent. But the day
of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens
will pass away with a terrible noise, and every- thing in them will
disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be exposed
to judgment.
Since everything around us is going to melt away, what holy, godly
lives you should be living! You should look forward to that day and
hurry it along--the day when God will set the heavens on fire and the
elements will melt away in the flames.
But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has
promised, a world where everyone is right with God. And so, dear
friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every
effort to live a pure and blameless life."
Anyone who could believe this is beyond contempt.
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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03 Feb 2005 09:35:01 PM |
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Andrew <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in message
news:36fpo8F50h0dkU1@individual.net...
"Robibnikoff" wrote in message news:36fmtoF50lkokU1@individual.net...
"Orion7" wrote:
hes been "coming soon" for 2000 years now
You Don't know a Day with God is as a Thousand Years.... it only been
2 Days.
Oh, the old "god days" baloney. Can you prove this?
Yeah, any day now, right?
It could be sooner then that!!!
Prove it.
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"In the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth
Well, that settles it. We know that we are in the Last Days because
scoffers have only just emerged within the last five minutes or so.
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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04 Feb 2005 06:28:07 PM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:35:01 -0800, "sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com>
wrote:
"In the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth
Well, that settles it. We know that we are in the Last Days because
scoffers have only just emerged within the last five minutes or so.
Fundies have always scoffed at the suggestion that there have always
been scoffers.
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MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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03 Feb 2005 05:39:12 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Robibnikoff" wrote in message news:36fmtoF50lkokU1@individual.net...
"Orion7" wrote:
hes been "coming soon" for 2000 years now
You Don't know a Day with God is as a Thousand Years.... it only been 2 Days.
Oh, the old "god days" baloney. Can you prove this?
Yeah, any day now, right?
It could be sooner then that!!!
Prove it.
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"In the last days there will be scoffers who will laugh at the truth and do every evil thing
they desire. This will be their argument: "Jesus promised to come back, did he? Then
where is he? Why, as far back as anyone can remember, everything has remained
exactly the same since the world was first created."
Yup. So much for that Jesus fellow. But then again, he was not unique
in his delusion.
Of course, since he was only a mythical construct, taken from a number
of mythologies, and never was a real person, his failure is nothing
unique either.
They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his command, and he
brought the earth up from the water and surrounded it with water. Then he used the water
to destroy the world with a mighty flood. And God has also commanded that the heavens
and the earth will be consumed by fire on the day of judgment, when ungodly people will
perish.
Nope, didn't forget. Learned better.
And what with the few dozen killer comet claims, and death dealing
asteroids. Not to mention the odd terrorist threat and such, I doubt
very highly, that the earth, and universe will "perish in flames".
Your posts on the other hand, well, the smoke will get pretty thick,
pretty quick.
But you must not forget, dear friends, that a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and
a thousand years is like a day. The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return,
as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to
perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent. But the day of the Lord will come
as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and every-
thing in them will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be exposed to
judgment.
Yeah, sure he will.
To bad he failed to keep his promise to his own followers. You know,
that little bit about, "and some of you hear, shall not see death before
my return.", you remember that part don't you?
Oh, but I digress, mythical beings don't have to keep their promises, as
they are not real anyway.
Since everything around us is going to melt away, what holy, godly lives you should be
living! You should look forward to that day and hurry it along--the day when God will
set the heavens on fire and the elements will melt away in the flames.
Right, hurry it along.
So that means you will be taking no part in FCC censorship. The
abortion conflict. You will work to repeal all blue and archaic sex
laws. And this Krazy Kristian Koalition crap about a marriage amendment
to the Constitution, you will vote against it.
Right?
If not, then what you posted above is a lie.
But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world
where everyone is right with God. And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these
things to happen, make every effort to live a pure and blameless life."
--------------------------------------- 2 Peter 3:3-14 NLT ------------------------------------------------
Live life to it's fullest. You only have one shot at it. When you are
gone, you start the long slow process of the matter that makes up your
body, returning to the universe.
No afterlife, no heaven, no hell, no new earth. Oblivion is all you have.
Deal with it.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Andrew" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:09:00 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" wrote in message news:dcpad2-34r1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com...
No afterlife, no heaven, no hell, no new earth. Oblivion is all you have.
Deal with it.
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Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life is offered
to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior. His sacrifice may
atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
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03 Feb 2005 09:23:45 PM |
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"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:36g7abF4um6onU1@individual.net:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior. His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all. A wise God would
understand the limitations of humanity and forgive all. A God who took
an active interest in us would communicate clearly with us, rather than
in vague, contradictory passages in drawn from the mythology of one
obscure sect among thousands. The God of Christianity is apparently
vengful, unwise, and couldn't care less about us.
Above all, a truly powerful God would have the strength to exist.
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Andrew" |
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03 Feb 2005 09:45:39 PM |
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"Enkidu" wrote in message news:Xns95F2C5528F9FD255229@130.133.1.4...
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior. His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
03 Feb 2005 09:48:42 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Enkidu" wrote in message news:Xns95F2C5528F9FD255229@130.133.1.4...
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life
is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior. His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
no he doesnt. he gives us an ultimatum. this is a very childish way of
getting what he wants.
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| User: "Andrew" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
03 Feb 2005 10:10:00 PM |
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"snex" wrote in message news:1107488922.631413.217710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew wrote:
"Enkidu" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior. His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
no he doesnt. he gives us an ultimatum. this is a very childish way of
getting what he wants.
What more could He do for you.......He died for you.
God is love. Why not accept His love and the eternal
future He has for you??
Andrew
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
03 Feb 2005 10:53:11 PM |
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"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:36gasmF511lvrU1@individual.net:
"snex" wrote in message
news:1107488922.631413.217710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew wrote:
"Enkidu" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal life
is offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as
Savior. His sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
no he doesnt. he gives us an ultimatum. this is a very childish way
of getting what he wants.
What more could He do for you.......He died for you.
He could have simply said "All is forgiven. Be as kind to each other as
your nature will allow." Why was any blood necessary? Why His own blood
to forgive us breaking his own rules?
He asks me not to think. He asks too much.
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
04 Feb 2005 04:05:42 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"snex" wrote in message
news:1107488922.631413.217710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew wrote:
"Enkidu" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal
life is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior.
His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last
day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
no he doesnt. he gives us an ultimatum. this is a very childish way
of
getting what he wants.
What more could He do for you.......He died for you.
God is love. Why not accept His love and the eternal
future He has for you??
Andrew
Let's take your myth at face value for a moment.
He creates humans, who do not yet understand the difference between
good and evil. They eat of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good
and Evil, and he punishes them for it - even tho they did not yet know
right from wrong!
Moreover, he punishes people who did not disobey. (Those not yet born.)
Then he promises to "forgive" us, if we believe that he died for our
sins. You mean, as some sort of whipping boy, a substitute. But *I
didn't sin. And *he didn't die, and knew it ahead of time.
And if we guess wrong, based on the best ambiguous feeling and
non-existant evidence, then he tortures us forever.
Is that about right?
Your religion - the one I was raised on - is not about love so much as
insane and abusive parenting allegories. YOu talk not as one who knows
what love is but like a badly beaten child: "Please Daddy, stop hitting
me with that coat hanger! Thank you, thank you, thank you!"
Fortunately, there is no evidence for such a monster.
What does any of this have to do with science, BTW?
Kermit
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| User: "snex" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
03 Feb 2005 10:12:29 PM |
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Andrew wrote:
"snex" wrote in message
news:1107488922.631413.217710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew wrote:
"Enkidu" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
Jesus was raised from the dead..His tomb is empty. Eternal
life is
offered to you through Him if you would accept Him as Savior.
His
sacrifice may atone for and cleanse from all sin.
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have
everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last
day."
~ Jesus
A truly merciful God would simply forgive all..
He DOES....that's the Good News!
"For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and
plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."
~ Psalm 86:5 ~
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive
us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
~ 1 John 1:9 ~
no he doesnt. he gives us an ultimatum. this is a very childish way
of
getting what he wants.
What more could He do for you.......He died for you.
God is love. Why not accept His love and the eternal
future He has for you??
Andrew
evidence?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
04 Feb 2005 10:54:47 AM |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:10:00 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
What more could He do for you.......He died for you.
No, he didn't. At best Jesus had a really bad day, then spent two
days asleep. Dead is dead. Dying and coming back to life fully
healed is not a sacrifice.
I have a friend just home from Iraq. He used to have two arms. A
bullet in the Sunni triangle shattered his forearm, and he's now
learning to write left-handed. That's a sacrifice.
On 9/11, firefighters charged into the towers knowing the risks, and
paid the price. That's a sacrifice.
Sacrifice means losing something precious, permanently. Jesus, in the
Bible myths, loses nothing.
God is love. Why not accept His love and the eternal
future He has for you??
Why do you no accept Allah? Or Mithra? Or the Norse gods? Don't you
want to spend eternity feasting and fighting in Valhalla, waiting for
Rangarok?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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