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03 Feb 2005 08:41:57 AM |
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Re: Is Anyone Here an ADVENTIST?! |
In article <1107423912.431243.254020@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Orion7
says...
Don't you know evolution is a farce? You are obviously a product of the
brain washing which goes on in our Schools, Colleges and Universities.
I have seen the desperate lengths these Professors and Scientists go to
make people believe in evolution, even fabricating evidence to support
their unsupportable theories.
1st Rule of Creationism: Ignored evidence will go away
2nd Rule of Creationism: Interpret any challenge as personal insult
3rd Rule of Creationism: Claim evidence then quietly slip away
4th Rule of Creationism: Don't be confused by facts
5th Rule of Creationism: Insist that science ignores your proof
6th Rule of Creationism: Claim superiority for Christian education.
7th Rule of Creationism: Always appear to know more than you do.
8th Rule of Creationism: Shift the burden of proof to your critics.
9th Rule of Creationism: Lying for the Lord is okay.
10th Rule of Creationism: Never acknowledge your demonstrated errors
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07 Feb 2005 12:14:48 AM |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:00:35 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message news:Xns95F4C81F075A3vicman@216.196.97.136...
Everything that occurs in the universe has occurred naturally, and can be
explained ...
Then please give the evidence which explains how life came from nonliving
chemicals
There are precursor amino acids on meteorites. That's how life came
to be.
which came from a primeval explosion
What explosion? There was no explosion.
which came from nothing.
What came from nothing? There was never "nothing".
Why are you making things up?
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| User: "Andrew" |
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07 Feb 2005 01:05:08 AM |
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"Al Klein" wrote in message news:5o1e01181f0otfk3b5nnbuq3781fpr99rf@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote:
Everything that occurs in the universe has occurred naturally, and can be explained ...
Then please give the evidence which explains how life came from nonliving chemicals
There are precursor amino acids on meteorites. That's how life came to be. <-------------
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This is a good example of a man who is obviously hopelessly entrenched in the hoax that I
was talking about.
Andrew
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Feb 2005 04:15:40 PM |
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:05:08 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" wrote in message news:5o1e01181f0otfk3b5nnbuq3781fpr99rf@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote:
Everything that occurs in the universe has occurred naturally, and can be explained ...
Then please give the evidence which explains how life came from nonliving chemicals
There are precursor amino acids on meteorites. That's how life came to be. <-------------
This is a good example of a man who is obviously hopelessly entrenched in the hoax that I
was talking about.
You're a good example of someone who can't address the issue.
Is your position that amino acids haven't been found on meteorites?
That amino acids can't become life?
What?
Ad hom arguments are logical fallacies. Learn some logic before you
embarrass yourself again.
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"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
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| User: "Andrew" |
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08 Feb 2005 01:28:22 AM |
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"Al Klein" wrote in message news:l1qf01plgmjmgojvr2h0u3hmit4bt1lu9l@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" wrote in:
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote:
Everything that occurs in the universe has occurred naturally, and can be explained ...
Then please give the evidence which explains how life came from nonliving chemicals
There are precursor amino acids on meteorites. That's how life came to be. <-------------
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This is a good example of a man who is obviously hopelessly entrenched in the hoax that I
was talking about.
You're a good example of someone who can't address the issue.
Is your position that amino acids haven't been found on meteorites?
That amino acids can't become life?
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Andrew
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08 Feb 2005 11:46:14 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Andrew" |
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08 Feb 2005 04:43:15 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:pnuh015spl3001rujklso8mlniaj68ood5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
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Amino acids cannot become *life* thru random processes, and letters cannot
become *books* thru random processes...such as by a monkey working on a
typewriter.
Andrew
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09 Feb 2005 08:37:50 AM |
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Andrew wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:pnuh015spl3001rujklso8mlniaj68ood5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
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Amino acids cannot become *life* thru random processes, and letters cannot
become *books* thru random processes...such as by a monkey working on a
typewriter.
And your evidence for such a bold assertion is
What?
Or is it just something you prefer to believe. Like the rest of your
faith. Which I have challenged, and you have failed to support.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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08 Feb 2005 05:45:21 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:43:15 -0800, "Andrew"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> let us all know that:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:pnuh015spl3001rujklso8mlniaj68ood5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
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Amino acids cannot become *life* thru random processes,
Prove it.
Oh, while you're at it, prove that god didn't need to be created.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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10 Feb 2005 01:03:37 AM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:43:15 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Amino acids cannot become *life* thru random processes
The processes are deterministic and chaotic, not random.
and letters cannot
become *books* thru random processes...such as by a monkey working on a
typewriter.
Sure they can, if you don't define the words until after they're typed
- which is how evolution works.
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witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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08 Feb 2005 04:56:06 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:43:15 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:pnuh015spl3001rujklso8mlniaj68ood5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
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Amino acids cannot become *life* thru random processes, and letters cannot
become *books* thru random processes...such as by a monkey working on a
typewriter.
Nobody says they do except for lying creationists tilting at strawmen.
However, I suggest you do a google searcg on the late Sydney Fox.
Andrew
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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08 Feb 2005 12:10:57 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:46:14 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
Books are not chemically active. Amino acids are.
He likes these bad analogies - he seems to imagine that automobiles
reproduce sexually.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Feb 2005 06:29:45 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:28:22 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Letters of an alphabet may become words. Words may become sentences and
paragraphs..and then books, and books may become libraries. But letters may
not become libraries through random processes. Similarly, amino acids cannot
become life through random processes.
The amino acids are EXACTLY the same ones as those found in life -
they don't have to become anything else. Your analogy doesn't work.
Care to address the issue this time? Or are we going to see more non
sequitur "analogies"?
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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06 Feb 2005 09:59:14 AM |
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on 05 Feb 2005 in alt.atheism, Andrew dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
"Vic Sagerquist" wrote in message
news:Xns95F4C81F075A3vicman@216.196.97.136...
Everything that occurs in the universe has occurred naturally, and
can be explained ...
Then please give the evidence which explains how life came from
nonliving chemicals which came from a primeval explosion which came
from nothing.
I will proudly say "I don't know", refusing to make up a story - as you
have.
I affirm that the above is a grand hoax that has deceived the majority
of our society simply because the alternative is unacceptable to them
and politically incorrect.
Evolution is observable fact. Denial of reality is your weakness.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Feb 2005 12:13:13 AM |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:14:29 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
If we live in a moral universe
We don't - the universe is amoral.
and God has a moral law which demands death to the transgressor
He doesn't - he doesn't exist.
then it would be most wonderful if there was
a plan wherby humans may be forgiven all of their sin and to also have
eternal life in His kingdom of glory.
It would, but it isn't, so it's not.
I found out that there really is a God
You mean that you found out that you believe there is a god. You
can't have found out that there is one, because there isn't any, and
you can't find out what isn't real.
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"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife, brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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06 Feb 2005 03:25:53 AM |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:14:29 -0800, "Andrew, the alt.atheism Jester"
<andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote:
If we live in a moral universe and God has a moral law which demands
death to the transgressor, then it would be most wonderful if there was
a plan wherby humans may be forgiven all of their sin and to also have
eternal life in His kingdom of glory.
If.... pigs.... wings...
I found out that there really is a God,
How? Which god?
and that at great expense
You mean dying for less than 48 hrs, then magically reviving? Not a
great expense.
He has
provided a way where He can be just and also provide full forgiveness
to the transgressors of His law and give them eternal life in His coming
kingdom of glory. This is what we mean by salvation.
All you have to do is proof it.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Feb 2005 12:11:11 AM |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:52:50 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Hopefully you will accept the free offer of salvation that is offered to you
through Jesus Christ, that you may live with Him forever in His kingdom
of glory through all future ages. But if that is not appealing to you and you
want to be among the lost then you will experience the eternal fire which
will consume the wicked..
Take it from someone who's been there and back, Andrew - it ain't
nothin' like that.
But, since you're a Christian, I'd start worrying if I were you. Big
time.
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"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been
witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
- Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-20
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| User: "Andrew" |
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07 Feb 2005 03:11:49 AM |
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"Al Klein" wrote in message news:th1e015st72cdn9v8hhrftm1q7cnjnsahj@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
Hopefully you will accept the free offer of salvation that is offered to you
through Jesus Christ, that you may live with Him forever in His kingdom
of glory through all future ages. But if that is not appealing to you and you
want to be among the lost then you will experience the eternal fire which
will consume the wicked..
Take it from someone who's been there and back, Andrew - it ain't
nothin' like that.
Then maybe you should tell us about it.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Feb 2005 05:40:12 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:11:49 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" wrote in message news:th1e015st72cdn9v8hhrftm1q7cnjnsahj@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
Hopefully you will accept the free offer of salvation that is offered to you
through Jesus Christ, that you may live with Him forever in His kingdom
of glory through all future ages. But if that is not appealing to you and you
want to be among the lost then you will experience the eternal fire which
will consume the wicked..
Take it from someone who's been there and back, Andrew - it ain't
nothin' like that.
Then maybe you should tell us about it.
Sorry, I can't. (Not "won't", "can't".) Sorry if that doesn't meet
with your approval but, then, you aren't very important in the general
scheme of things, are you?
But I CAN tell you that keeping your Christian faith, especially in
light of the many contradictions, total lack of objective evidence,
etc.isn't a smart thing to do.
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"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Feb 2005 03:39:13 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:40:12 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:11:49 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" wrote in message news:th1e015st72cdn9v8hhrftm1q7cnjnsahj@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
Hopefully you will accept the free offer of salvation that is offered to you
through Jesus Christ, that you may live with Him forever in His kingdom
of glory through all future ages. But if that is not appealing to you and you
want to be among the lost then you will experience the eternal fire which
will consume the wicked..
Take it from someone who's been there and back, Andrew - it ain't
nothin' like that.
Then maybe you should tell us about it.
Sorry, I can't. (Not "won't", "can't".) Sorry if that doesn't meet
with your approval but, then, you aren't very important in the general
scheme of things, are you?
But I CAN tell you that keeping your Christian faith, especially in
light of the many contradictions, total lack of objective evidence,
etc.isn't a smart thing to do.
Don't forget all the lying the Christian is doing. But then, Andrew,
like the vast majority of Christians don't believe in Jesus' promises.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Feb 2005 06:30:57 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:39:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:40:12 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
But I CAN tell you that keeping your Christian faith, especially in
light of the many contradictions, total lack of objective evidence,
etc.isn't a smart thing to do.
Don't forget all the lying the Christian is doing. But then, Andrew,
like the vast majority of Christians don't believe in Jesus' promises.
The lying won't hurt him, Stoney, the wasted life his belief caused
him will.
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"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.... This is a somewhat new kind of religion."
- Letter to Hans Muehsam March 30, 1954; Einstein Archive 38-434
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Feb 2005 10:14:46 AM |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:30:57 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:39:13 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:40:12 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
But I CAN tell you that keeping your Christian faith, especially in
light of the many contradictions, total lack of objective evidence,
etc.isn't a smart thing to do.
Don't forget all the lying the Christian is doing. But then, Andrew,
like the vast majority of Christians don't believe in Jesus' promises.
The lying won't hurt him, Stoney, the wasted life his belief caused
him will.
Not to mention the hefty amount of $$$$ conned out of him.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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07 Feb 2005 06:52:49 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:11:49 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" wrote in message news:th1e015st72cdn9v8hhrftm1q7cnjnsahj@4ax.com...
"Andrew" said in alt.atheism:
Hopefully you will accept the free offer of salvation that is offered to you
through Jesus Christ, that you may live with Him forever in His kingdom
of glory through all future ages. But if that is not appealing to you and you
want to be among the lost then you will experience the eternal fire which
will consume the wicked..
Take it from someone who's been there and back, Andrew - it ain't
nothin' like that.
Then maybe you should tell us about it.
He has. Many times. Can you read? Try to google it up.
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| User: "Orion7" |
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05 Feb 2005 02:31:03 PM |
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will i feel eternal pain or will i not?
You will feel pain until you are burnt up.... you will not feel pain
for eternity
God is even merciful to those who reject Him...
if not, then what will i experience?
After you are burnt up... you will cease to exist.. you will experience
nothing you be as though you never existed.
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any
thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is
forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now
perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing
that is done under the sun. (Ecc 9:5-6)
This does not have to be. You can live eternally! You can experience
all the wonders of the Earth made New!
Glories and Wonders no man can describe. All this is and more is
waiting for you.
Accept Him as the one who created you... follow Him...
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07 Feb 2005 12:24:12 AM |
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On 5 Feb 2005 12:31:03 -0800, "Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> said in
alt.atheism:
will i feel eternal pain or will i not?
You will feel pain until you are burnt up.... you will not feel pain
for eternity
God is even merciful to those who reject Him...
if not, then what will i experience?
After you are burnt up... you will cease to exist.. you will experience
nothing you be as though you never existed.
And how long does it take to "burn up" in those terrible fires? A
second? Hours? Centuries?
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
05 Feb 2005 05:01:47 PM |
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On 5 Feb 2005 12:31:03 -0800, "Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> wrote:
will i feel eternal pain or will i not?
You will feel pain until you are burnt up.... you will not feel pain
for eternity
God is even merciful to those who reject Him...
The bible says the smoke of their torment goes up forever.
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| User: "snex" |
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05 Feb 2005 02:35:39 PM |
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Orion7 wrote:
will i feel eternal pain or will i not?
You will feel pain until you are burnt up.... you will not feel pain
for eternity
God is even merciful to those who reject Him...
if not, then what will i experience?
After you are burnt up... you will cease to exist.. you will
experience
nothing you be as though you never existed.
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any
thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is
forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now
perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing
that is done under the sun. (Ecc 9:5-6)
This does not have to be. You can live eternally! You can experience
all the wonders of the Earth made New!
Glories and Wonders no man can describe. All this is and more is
waiting for you.
Accept Him as the one who created you... follow Him...
you and andrew seem to be contradicting each other, even though you
both read the same bible. he says i will be punished eternally, you say
i will cease to exist. both cannot be true. this does not help your
case.
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| User: "Orion7" |
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| Title: Re: Jesus Will Return--Just Like He Said He Would!! |
05 Feb 2005 02:48:47 PM |
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you and andrew seem to be contradicting each other, even though you
both read the same bible. he says i will be punished eternally, you
say
i will cease to exist. both cannot be true. this does not help your
case.
The punishment will last forever (eternally).... the act of punishing
will stop when there is nothing left to burn. The punishment received
lasts forever.... the act of punishing stops when there is nothing left
to burn.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Feb 2005 12:25:17 AM |
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On 5 Feb 2005 12:48:47 -0800, "Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> said in
alt.atheism:
you and andrew seem to be contradicting each other, even though you
both read the same bible. he says i will be punished eternally, you say
i will cease to exist. both cannot be true. this does not help your
case.
The punishment will last forever (eternally).... the act of punishing
will stop when there is nothing left to burn.
Which you just said will take forever.
The punishment received lasts forever.... the act of punishing stops when there is nothing left
to burn.
You;re contradicting yourself. Being dead isn't a punishment, any
more than those not yet conceived are being punished.
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stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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05 Feb 2005 05:03:57 PM |
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On 5 Feb 2005 12:48:47 -0800, "Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> wrote:
The punishment will last forever (eternally).... the act of punishing
will stop when there is nothing left to burn. The punishment received
lasts forever.... the act of punishing stops when there is nothing left
to burn.
The tormented have no rest day or night forever, according to the
bible.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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06 Feb 2005 10:44:05 AM |
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"MsAnthrope" <ms@nthr.ope> wrote in message
news:f5ka011feamk9g2i7qnhob4at02jl2ldvs@4ax.com...
On 5 Feb 2005 12:48:47 -0800, "Orion7" <gary.zw@gmail.com> wrote:
The punishment will last forever (eternally).... the act of punishing
will stop when there is nothing left to burn. The punishment received
lasts forever.... the act of punishing stops when there is nothing left
to burn.
The tormented have no rest day or night forever, according to the
bible.
But what does that have to do with reality?
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