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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "ZpiralZone"
Date: 27 Dec 2005 05:21:41 PM
Object: Re: Is Evolution science?
Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:05:49 -0500, in alt.atheism , ZpiralZone
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> in
<f61e0e1e0512261605o6404c992x6a02e777703423e@mail.gmail.com> wrote:

Elf M. Sternberg wrote:

ZpiralZone <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:

Please tell us who has lived long enough to observe one life form
evolved into another?


Evening Primrose (Oenothera gigas)


Snipped for brevity....................................

So plants evolved into plants, how thrilling! Do you have a problem
with comprehension?


Are you saying that you accept the common descent of all plants from a
common ancestor? Apply trees and roses from a common ancestor? Corn
and bamboo? Redwoods and dandelions?

--
Matt Silberstein

My original question was related to any news lifeform that evolved in
lab, in compliance with the scientific method.
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Is Evolution science? 28 Dec 2005 10:25:23 AM
In <f61e0e1e0512271521xa3e1bd9j96d2bbe6ee07d3f9@mail.gmail.com>,
ZpiralZone <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:05:49 -0500, in alt.atheism , ZpiralZone
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> in
<f61e0e1e0512261605o6404c992x6a02e777703423e@mail.gmail.com> wrote:

Elf M. Sternberg wrote:

ZpiralZone <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:

Please tell us who has lived long enough to observe one life form
evolved into another?


Evening Primrose (Oenothera gigas)


Snipped for brevity....................................

So plants evolved into plants, how thrilling! Do you have a problem
with comprehension?


Are you saying that you accept the common descent of all plants from a
common ancestor? Apply trees and roses from a common ancestor? Corn and
bamboo? Redwoods and dandelions?

--
Matt Silberstein


My original question was related to any news lifeform that evolved in lab,
in compliance with the scientific method.

Any example given to you would be met with "that's not a new lifeform."
Even if the damn thing crawled up your leg and bit your *****...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Is Evolution science? 27 Dec 2005 05:28:53 PM
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:21:41 -0500, in alt.atheism , ZpiralZone
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> in
<f61e0e1e0512271521xa3e1bd9j96d2bbe6ee07d3f9@mail.gmail.com> wrote:

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:05:49 -0500, in alt.atheism , ZpiralZone
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> in
<f61e0e1e0512261605o6404c992x6a02e777703423e@mail.gmail.com> wrote:

Elf M. Sternberg wrote:

ZpiralZone <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:

Please tell us who has lived long enough to observe one life form
evolved into another?


Evening Primrose (Oenothera gigas)


Snipped for brevity....................................

So plants evolved into plants, how thrilling! Do you have a problem
with comprehension?


Are you saying that you accept the common descent of all plants from a
common ancestor? Apply trees and roses from a common ancestor? Corn
and bamboo? Redwoods and dandelions?


My original question was related to any news lifeform that evolved in
lab, in compliance with the scientific method.

What is a "new lifeform"? I am serious, how can we tell we have
something "new"? Evolution, you should understand, is about change,
not about creating something new. Lots of change over lots of time can
end up with something very different, but I don't know where we would
end up saying it is a "new lifeform". What is the smallest difference
you would call new?
--
Matt Silberstein
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