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28 Apr 2005 06:29:50 PM |
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Re: Is the true God without a personal name? |
Cracklin' wrote:
"william Kimbler" <w.kimbler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%R8ce.2608$iZ1.222@trnddc03...
which scholar is this?
=======================
The WTS seldom names "scholars" in their literature. The JW just
accepts
that it's a real genuine SCHOLAR. :-)
--
CR....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any
towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them.
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG, and now rec.ponds and alt.free.newsservers
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
when asked about why she did not contact the authorities when she
accused a JW of raping his daughter, she could not provide and honest
reply, demostrating that she will exploit abused children
do you agree with her net behaviour?
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating with
her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them: support.heartoftn.net
If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her to
After she got booted and dumped by HOT, she now hides behind
Shared-secrets.com and Aoie.org from italy her handle today is
cracklin'
and her use of remailers can still be traced to her account. You may
inform them that there is UDP against them. No American ISP like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if hate speech is protected under
the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their block
Shared-secrets.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been proven
however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with no
place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you the
reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <SD@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond with
nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but to
regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded wishful
thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the organization more
than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for one to constantly
change their name as you do. Neither one paints you in a particularly
good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it
.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true God without a personal name? |
28 Apr 2005 08:02:57 PM |
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<jabriol@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1114730990.764745.82230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Cracklin' wrote:
"william Kimbler" <w.kimbler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%R8ce.2608$iZ1.222@trnddc03...
which scholar is this?
=======================
The WTS seldom names "scholars" in their literature.
if you had *any* idea whatsoever of which you speak, you would *know* that I
have never, and will never put quotes from any Watch Tower magazine on the
internet. The scholar I quoted has no connection whatsoever with the Watch
Tower.
Carol, if obsessed idiots pretending to be JWs didn't quote you I would
never see your rabidly hateful drool but in this case I am pleased to refute
one of your persistent lies about me
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true God without a personal name? |
28 Apr 2005 08:31:21 PM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OrWdnTXcXaghGuzfRVn-pg@comcast.com...
<jabriol@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1114730990.764745.82230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Cracklin' wrote:
"william Kimbler" <w.kimbler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%R8ce.2608$iZ1.222@trnddc03...
which scholar is this?
=======================
The WTS seldom names "scholars" in their literature.
if you had *any* idea whatsoever of which you speak, you would *know* that
I
have never, and will never put quotes from any Watch Tower magazine on the
internet. The scholar I quoted has no connection whatsoever with the Watch
Tower.
## Odd how you never mention the SCHOLAR'S name or where the information
came from. It makes one wonder if you have any idea of which you speak.
Carol, if obsessed idiots pretending to be JWs
## Your brother Jabbers is a Jehovah's Witness. Aren't you proud of him?
didn't quote you I would
never see your rabidly hateful drool
## You LOVE my posts as you read everyone one of them. You respond to them
when no one else quotes them. You truly deserve the name Lyin' Louie.
but in this case I am pleased to refute
one of your persistent lies about me
## What lies about you? Prove whatever they are are lies. You accuse
everyone of lying and yet never show any proof. You didn't get the name
Lyin' Louie for nothing. ;-)
--
CR........
L Perez bleated: BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only
here to slander and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization...
Note: No other organization can even come close to the WTS' record of six,
false-alarm end-of-the world predictions in the 20th century.
(Credit to RLM)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "jabriol" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true God without a personal name? |
29 Apr 2005 05:22:25 AM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OrWdnTXcXaghGuzfRVn-pg@comcast.com...
<jabriol@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1114730990.764745.82230@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Cracklin' wrote:
"william Kimbler" <w.kimbler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%R8ce.2608$iZ1.222@trnddc03...
which scholar is this?
=======================
The WTS seldom names "scholars" in their literature.
if you had *any* idea whatsoever of which you speak, you would
*know* that
I
have never, and will never put quotes from any Watch Tower magazine
on the
internet. The scholar I quoted has no connection whatsoever with
the Watch
Tower.
## Odd how you never mention the SCHOLAR'S name or where the
information
came from. It makes one wonder if you have any idea of which you
speak.
Carol, if obsessed idiots pretending to be JWs
## Your brother Jabbers is a Jehovah's Witness. Aren't you proud of
him?
didn't quote you I would
never see your rabidly hateful drool
## You LOVE my posts as you read everyone one of them. You respond
to them
when no one else quotes them. You truly deserve the name Lyin'
Louie.
but in this case I am pleased to refute
one of your persistent lies about me
## What lies about you? Prove whatever they are are lies. You
accuse
everyone of lying and yet never show any proof. You didn't get the
name
Lyin' Louie for nothing. ;-)
Talking about proof:
Carol Witkowski has been caught in various vicious lies
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG, and now rec.ponds and alt.free.newsservers
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
when asked about why she did not contact the authorities when she
accused a JW of raping his daughter, she could not provide and honest
reply, demostrating that she will exploit abused children
do you agree with her net behaviour?
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating with
her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them: support.heartoftn.net
If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her to
After she got booted and dumped by HOT, she now hides behind
Shared-secrets.com and Aoie.org from italy her handle today is
cracklin'
and her use of remailers can still be traced to her account. You may
inform them that there is UDP against them. No American ISP like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if hate speech is protected under
the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their block
Shared-secrets.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
;60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been proven
however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with no
place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you the
reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond with
nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but to
regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded wishful
thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the organization more
than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for one to constantly
change their name as you do. Neither one paints you in a particularly
good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it
.
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| User: "william Kimbler" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true God without a personal name? |
28 Apr 2005 09:54:14 PM |
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All I want to know is who is this scholar you're quoting? I think since
you're going to quote him it's only fair to ask you to name him.
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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28 Apr 2005 11:48:37 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:54:14 GMT, "william Kimbler"
<w.kimbler@verizon.net> wrote:
All I want to know is who is this scholar you're quoting? I think since
you're going to quote him it's only fair to ask you to name him.
Lyin' Louie needs a little time to come up with the source. He must
have forgot to save it as a Word file.
--
I will kill file Vero right now so I never have to here another depraved
word utter forth from her filthy mouth and stone cold heart again. -
in Message-ID: <4143b24c 4@Usenet.com>
They need to do
more than put that hot scalding cup of coffee down.
Someone needs to splash it in their face. - in
Message-ID: <411e32f9 2@Usenet.com>
Nothing is worth the pain and humiliation
this newsgroup has caused me
in the past month.- in Message-ID:
<413267fd 1@Usenet.com>
LET THIS NEWSGROUP DIE for it is not only controlled
by a racist who
hates Jehovah's Witnesses, but I genuinely believe that my mistake of
having posted here has placed myself, family and local friends in
possible danger.- in Message-ID:
<413267fd 1@Usenet.com>
Thank you for listening and helping during these depressing
times! It
would be easier to just stop posting altogether but wouldn't that
essentially mean these "cyber-terrorists" win? - in
Message-ID: <4119d989 2@Usenet.com>
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
29 Apr 2005 10:23:22 AM |
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===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
02 May 2005 07:48:37 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1114788208.84c02b498a3c5684060ef8daf1e6ec29@teranews...
===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
this is your assumption because you are ignorant of Bible facts.
YHWH's name was known by Abraham but it wasn't until the deliverance of the
Israelites out of the hand of Pharoah that the *meaning* of His name (I
SHALL PROVE TO BE) was made apparent.
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
03 May 2005 06:19:09 PM |
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L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1114788208.84c02b498a3c5684060ef8daf1e6ec29@teranews...
===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
this is your assumption because you are ignorant of Bible facts.
YHWH's name was known by Abraham but it wasn't until the deliverance of
the Israelites out of the hand of Pharoah that the *meaning* of His name
(I SHALL PROVE TO BE) was made apparent.
Exodus 6:2
And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Siggghhhhh.....
Why do you christers always have to lie? Did you think nobody
reads this stinking book of stupid myths? do you think nobody will know
"By my name Jehovah I was not known to them".
You are telling us where the bible says black it really means white?
*****!
Not here it is a bad translation, the real name was Yahweh.
And in the bible he does tell Abram his name. More stupid errors
and contradictions.
He renames the mountain where he took Isaac to be sacrificed, Jehovajira,
the Mount of Jehova.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
03 May 2005 07:51:03 PM |
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wcb wrote:
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1114788208.84c02b498a3c5684060ef8daf1e6ec29@teranews...
===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
this is your assumption because you are ignorant of Bible facts.
YHWH's name was known by Abraham but it wasn't until the deliverance of
the Israelites out of the hand of Pharoah that the *meaning* of His name
(I SHALL PROVE TO BE) was made apparent.
Exodus 6:2
And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Siggghhhhh.....
Why do you christers always have to lie? Did you think nobody
reads this stinking book of stupid myths? do you think nobody will know
"By my name Jehovah I was not known to them".
You are telling us where the bible says black it really means white?
*****!
Not here it is a bad translation, the real name was Yahweh.
And in the bible he does tell Abram his name. More stupid errors
and contradictions.
He renames the mountain where he took Isaac to be sacrificed, Jehovajira,
the Mount of Jehova.
===>He actually INTRODUCES HIMSELF to Isaac by that name.
"I am YHWH", he says (or Jehovah, Yehovah, Yahweh or whatever false
translation they prefer). -- L.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Thomas King" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
03 May 2005 06:44:16 AM |
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To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nvudndoaOYXBV-vfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1114788208.84c02b498a3c5684060ef8daf1e6ec29@teranews...
===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
this is your assumption because you are ignorant of Bible facts.
YHWH's name was known by Abraham but it wasn't until the deliverance of
the Israelites out of the hand of Pharoah that the *meaning* of His name
(I SHALL PROVE TO BE) was made apparent.
.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
03 May 2005 09:35:44 AM |
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"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
--
CR.....
L Perez bleated: BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only
here to slander and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization...
Note: No other organization can even come close to the WTS' record of six,
false-alarm end-of-the world predictions in the 20th century.
(Credit to RLM)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nvudndoaOYXBV-vfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1114788208.84c02b498a3c5684060ef8daf1e6ec29@teranews...
===>According to the book of GENESIS, people knew "the name"
starting with Eve (See Gen. 4).
But he is depicted as a forgetful deity, as he declares to Moses
in EXODUS that until he told his name to Moses, no one had
known him by the name of "Yehowah" (or "Jehovah" in JWese). -- L.
this is your assumption because you are ignorant of Bible facts.
YHWH's name was known by Abraham but it wasn't until the deliverance of
the Israelites out of the hand of Pharoah that the *meaning* of His name
(I SHALL PROVE TO BE) was made apparent.
.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Is the true (FORGETFUL) God without a personal name? |
03 May 2005 07:30:44 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
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03 May 2005 10:16:19 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
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Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
## He's not known as Lyin' Louie for nothing. :-)
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
## Remember he's using the WTS's bible, NOT the real bible the rest of us
use/read.
--
CR....
Well, then, have I become YOUR enemy because I tell YOU the truth?
Galatians 4:16 NWT
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04 May 2005 01:47:32 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
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04 May 2005 08:23:01 PM |
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L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
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04 May 2005 09:46:20 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
=================================
He wants to give you the WTS/GB's version, not the bible's version. ;-)
--
CR.......
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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| User: "L Perez" |
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05 May 2005 03:13:33 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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05 May 2005 10:56:49 AM |
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L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
SEE: Genesis 4:1
The man knew Eve his wife. She conceived, and gave birth to Cain,
and said, "I have gotten a man with Yahweh's help."
See especially:
Genesis 15:7 and Genesis 28:13.
He introduces himself by saying: "I AM YEHOWAH"
But in the Moses story he says no one before had known
him by that name.
So, much for the declaration of the "inerrant Word of God".
That is a LIE and a DECEPTION! -- L.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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05 May 2005 11:04:25 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism,
his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
## Which wouldn't be the case if the bible was inspired by one and the same
"god."
SEE: Genesis 4:1
The man knew Eve his wife. She conceived, and gave birth to Cain,
and said, "I have gotten a man with Yahweh's help."
## I wish he'd "help" the millions of women who die worldwide giving birth
each year. Or is that Eve's "fault" as well?
See especially:
Genesis 15:7 and Genesis 28:13.
He introduces himself by saying: "I AM YEHOWAH"
But in the Moses story he says no one before had known
him by that name.
So, much for the declaration of the "inerrant Word of God".
That is a LIE and a DECEPTION! -- L.
## Amen! :-)
--
CR....
Yep, the sleazebags at the WTS added another 120 years to 1914. What a
hoot! :-D The poor misled JWs who were waiting for 1975 got the shaft,
then 2000, shafted again... now this. What happened to all their promised
and underlined scripture proving the generation who saw 1914 would not pass
away before "the end of this system of things?" And they claim a clear
direct line to Jehovah!!!
How can any rational person be so gullible as to swallow this obvious male
bovine excreta? This GB vomit....
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| User: "L Perez" |
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05 May 2005 03:47:33 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
that you have made clear you do not want to accept
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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05 May 2005 08:00:01 PM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nPydnazB-pPQG-ffRVn-pw@comcast.com...
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
that you have made clear you do not want to accept
=====================
And your proof it was the SAME penman?
--
CR.......
How did we get here?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
=================================
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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05 May 2005 10:07:35 PM |
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L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism, his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible,
I understand that you keep looking for "another explanation".
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| User: "L Perez" |
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06 May 2005 03:06:54 AM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427ADF77.CAD85BDE@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism,
his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding
what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to write
what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
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06 May 2005 10:34:15 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E_ydnRE43rDpuObfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to
write
what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
===============
If the bible was god inspired there wouldn't be hundreds of contradictions.
--
CR.........
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:56:15 -0600, (Boydette) wrote:
What its like to be "mind controlled"all your life???? I thought this
was a support group for people damaged by the JWs teachings??......I am
a classic example...learn from me....Boydette
===================================
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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06 May 2005 10:44:46 AM |
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L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427ADF77.CAD85BDE@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427A4240.61B268BC@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:42797575.BFDEDBFA@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:1115166651.7cc281ff634b309cdff57023fcf991fb@teranews...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:-MednfzgjKWX-erfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
To "L. Perez": Are you a JW?
===============
He claims he is. Can't you tell by his arrogance, his elitism,
his
conceit,
his weasel worded posts and his feelings of superiority?
===>And what about his INSTANT LIE!
In fact the Bible has YHWH state:
"and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty;
as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them"
What can be clearer that that? -- L.
would you be willing to learn if I explained it?
===>It is perfectly clear as it stands. Why do you
wish to muddy the issue? -- L.
well, given Genesis 4:26 (and many other such Scriptures preceeding
what
YHWH said to Moses) I had to at least offer
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to write
what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
===>That is no "fact", just a legendary tradition.
Most likely there never was any "Moses".
Read some books on the origins of the Bible.
E.g. WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by
Richard E. Friedman.
Your eyes and mind might open. -- L.
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06 May 2005 02:51:47 PM |
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On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:06:54 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427ADF77.CAD85BDE@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
snip
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to write
what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
Yes, and he wrote about his own death. Amazing!
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "wcb" |
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06 May 2005 05:51:38 PM |
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thomas p wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:06:54 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427ADF77.CAD85BDE@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
snip
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to
write what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
Yes, and he wrote about his own death. Amazing!
The "books" of "Moses" contain phrases like "Before there
was any king at Jerusalem.." Showing that these books were
written long after Moses.
Obviously, Perez is notably lacking any knowledge of these
things, by which man has known Moses was not the author of
these books for some centuries.
I'd suggest Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason" which lists many
of these, but you just know Perez will rather remain utterly
ignorant and wrong.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Thomas King" |
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06 May 2005 06:06:12 PM |
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Good points. Perez, you can try all you want, the Bible is a book of
fiction, period. And the WT is NOT God's organization. They are a sick cult
guilty of lying, child abuse, joining the UN, deceiving their own members
about their history, etc. Find a new hobby.
"wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:117nspio7ufcf1b@corp.supernews.com...
thomas p wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2005 01:06:54 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:427ADF77.CAD85BDE@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
L Perez wrote:
snip
===>Offer WHAT?
Gen. 4:26 simply confirms the point I made: that the name YHWH was
already known to Adam & Eve and their children.
Obviously, the author of the Moses story in Exodus was unaware of
the
Adam & Eve story and other details in Genesis.
seeing that it was the same penman, there is another explanation...
===>Seeing that you are ignorant of the origins of the Bible
who is the one ignorant of the fact that Moses put the pen to paper to
write what God inspired him to write in all of the *first 5 books*?
Yes, and he wrote about his own death. Amazing!
The "books" of "Moses" contain phrases like "Before there
was any king at Jerusalem.." Showing that these books were
written long after Moses.
Obviously, Perez is notably lacking any knowledge of these
things, by which man has known Moses was not the author of
these books for some centuries.
I'd suggest Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason" which lists many
of these, but you just know Perez will rather remain utterly
ignorant and wrong.
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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06 May 2005 07:05:43 PM |
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"Thomas King" <tking777@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZaSdnQhOEYv-ZebfRVn-pg@comcast.com...
Good points. Perez, you can try all you want, the Bible is a book of
fiction, period. And the WT is NOT God's organization. They are a sick
cult
guilty of lying, child abuse, joining the UN, deceiving their own members
about their history, etc. Find a new hobby.
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He can't. He's already lost all his friends and disassociated from his
family - he'd be all alone if he left the WTS cult. Who and what would he
have? He'd be alone with nothing.........
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| User: "L Perez" |
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06 May 2005 07:03:48 PM |
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actually, I would find a new hobby if I were you... narcissism will get you
nowhere
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