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05 May 2004 08:44:32 PM |
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Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
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God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there. You're
the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you). And then
you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to Jesus for
us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 10:17:13 AM |
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In article <4Mgmc.146696$Gd3.35932057@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Xomicron
<xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there. You're
the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you). And then
you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to Jesus for
us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
...
• For the past 400-years, God inspired the College of Cardinals to elect
only one non-Italian pope, so. who knows. maybe He's partial to
Italians? This seems likely since Roman church doctrine is similar to
Italian culture -- wherein families are matriarchal in structure -- i. e.,
the family is controlled by the mother. Thus, it was only natural that
the Roman church would need a Mother of God/Jesus to keep the Holy Family
on-track and running smoothly.
-- Evidence that God is somewhat partial to Italians in general is that
Italians invented the chromatic scale and an Italian came up with the
design for the violin. This inventor and his two sons went on to
manufacture the best violins and cellos ever. The manufacturer was
Antonio 'Tony' Stradivari, and his sons Francesco 'Franco' and Omobono
'Omo'. In an interview, Tony was asked why his violins sounded better
than any other manufacturer's violins even though they were all using
Tony's design. Tony said the difference was in selecting the right tree
to cut the wood from. He said he selected the right tree by going alone
into the forest and looking over trees. When he was looking at a tree
that looked pretty good, he said he would not cut it down until he
received a divine signal. If he did not receive a signal, he would go on
until he got the go-ahead to cut a tree down. Tony reportedly spent a lot
of time looking over trees.
cheers
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
05 May 2004 11:50:40 PM |
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In article <4Mgmc.146696$Gd3.35932057@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Xomicron
<xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
...
• Saying this to those who have been inculcated by the Roman church is
like unto shovelling sand against the tide.
good luck
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 01:05:58 AM |
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On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there. You're
the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you). And then
you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to Jesus for
us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 12:02:21 PM |
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In article <2clj90ttmbaiqqbbrdgak6hn4igejm4d1t@4ax.com>, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there. You're
the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you). And then
you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to Jesus for
us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
• chortle.
cheers, Thomas
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| User: "Xomicron" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 01:11:21 AM |
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Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:2clj90ttmbaiqqbbrdgak6hn4igejm4d1t@4ax.com:
On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church
is wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there.
You're the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you).
And then you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to
Jesus for us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
Thanks for proving to the world that you're nothing more than an idiot.
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 09:19:37 AM |
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Xomicron wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:2clj90ttmbaiqqbbrdgak6hn4igejm4d1t@4ax.com:
On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church
is wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there.
You're the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you).
And then you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to
Jesus for us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
Thanks for proving to the world that you're nothing more than an idiot.
And your mother wears army boots! So there!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 09:52:23 AM |
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In article <409A4979.62EEE5AF@pemtel.net>, dgillesp says...
Xomicron wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:2clj90ttmbaiqqbbrdgak6hn4igejm4d1t@4ax.com:
On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church
is wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there.
You're the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you).
And then you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to
Jesus for us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
Thanks for proving to the world that you're nothing more than an idiot.
And your mother wears army boots! So there!
<glances down at black, chunk-heeled, goth army-style boots>
What's wrong with army boots? ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
07 May 2004 08:20:29 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <409A4979.62EEE5AF@pemtel.net>, dgillesp says...
Xomicron wrote:
Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:2clj90ttmbaiqqbbrdgak6hn4igejm4d1t@4ax.com:
On Thu, 06 May 2004 01:44:32 GMT, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:p1td80tlqeniaim0e1op51sfcg0a6gmko5@4ax.com:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:26:29 GMT, "Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net>
wrote:
God clearly said his kingdom is of the living, not the dead.
Praying to anyone other than GOD himself is IDOLATRY, equating that
person with GOD, believing they have the power to hear and answer
prayer, which they do NOT.
The Christian world disagrees with you.
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church
is wrong.
Your quote the bible out of context to excuse your sin, idolatry,
disobedience and vanity.
How can I quote the bible out of context. I quote what's there.
You're the one deciding for yourself what a passage means (to you).
And then you belittle others for asking the MOther of God to pray to
Jesus for us.
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
The Bible says that Jesus is the *only* mediator between God the Father
and Man.
One Christian lunatic fighting with another Christian lunatic over
whose delusion is true. Both of the lunatics hate in the name of
Jesus.
Thanks for proving to the world that you're nothing more than an idiot.
And your mother wears army boots! So there!
<glances down at black, chunk-heeled, goth army-style boots>
At this point I thought my Darlin' Daughta was replying to my ah...er...
wisecrack. She's something of a maverick herself. I never know if I'll
recognize her when she comes to visit, cause she changes her persona at
the drop of a hat--or a shoe, for that matter. But I love her dearly
and she can do no wrong.
What's wrong with army boots? ;)
Nada, of course. It's an old WWII quip (IF I remember correctly) that's
obviously used up its shelf life.
These days what with all the women in the military, it could just be
merely a statement of fact.
And as far as shoe fashions go--imitation is the highest form of
flattery, right?
methodios (Denny)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "alexB" |
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07 May 2004 07:03:08 AM |
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this is just a test, ignore. - AB
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| User: "" |
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06 May 2004 07:32:44 PM |
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What? Is someone else dissing Our Lady?
On 5-May-2004, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
"I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be
made for all men, for kings who are in high positions, that we may lead a
quiet and peaceable life, godly, and respectful in every way. This is good,
and it is acceptable in the sight of God our saviour."
-St. Paul (1 Tim. 2:1-4)
"Beneath your protection we fly, O Holy Mother of God. In our necessities,
despise not our petitions but always deliver us from all dangers, oh
glorious blessed Virgin."
-traditional, circa. 200 AD
"(Mary is) the highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after
Christ... She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never
honor her enough."
-Martin Luther (Christmas Sermon; 1531)
H.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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06 May 2004 08:59:50 PM |
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In article <RNSdnUk-RKexRAfdRVn2uw@giganews.com>, wrote:
What? Is someone else dissing Our Lady?
On 5-May-2004, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
The Catholic Chruch is not the Christian world and the Catholic Church is
wrong.
"I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be
made for all men, for kings who are in high positions, that we may lead a
quiet and peaceable life, godly, and respectful in every way. This is good,
and it is acceptable in the sight of God our saviour."
-St. Paul (1 Tim. 2:1-4)
"Beneath your protection we fly, O Holy Mother of God.
• If Mary is God/Jesus's mother, and God/Jesus's Holy Spprit personality
impregnated Mary to give birth to God/Jesus, isn't this sort of like
incest with a twist of circular-logic?
- ³If you understand it, it is not God.²
-- from Saint Augustine's Sermon 117.
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| User: "Steve O" |
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| Title: Re: Is there a biblical basis for the Rosary? |
06 May 2004 02:26:40 PM |
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Xomicron wrote:
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
Don't worry.
It's only a one way conversation, no matter what the psychics tell you.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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06 May 2004 02:30:03 PM |
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In article <2fvhr7F2lmkqU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Steve O"
<stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Xomicron wrote:
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
Don't worry.
It's only a one way conversation, no matter what the psychics tell you.
• The laugher is that the holy men who control Islam also invented a
similar magic prayer bead device.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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07 May 2004 06:51:56 AM |
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Steve O wrote:
Xomicron wrote:
Any communication with dead people is sin and enmity to God.
Don't worry.
It's only a one way conversation, no matter what the psychics tell you.
The problem with a rosary is that it is part of a regimine of repetitive and
perfunctory prayer, exactly of the sort Jesus condemned in Matthew 6.
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"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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