Re: Is Truthseeker dead because of a Jehovah Witness - Committing people in the USA



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "jabriol"
Date: 07 Aug 2003 08:47:48 PM
Object: Re: Is Truthseeker dead because of a Jehovah Witness - Committing people in the USA
Go IO, clap! Go IO, clap! Go IO, clap!
little football victory shuffle go here :-)
I guess Carol was lying about her "background " again..
Carol has no shame..
"IOStorm" <noemail@noemail.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:31:55 -0500, "Mike Krobes"
<BewareEvil@TheKlingdomHells.net> wrote:

* I don't want to get into a argument with you IOStorm. I have no idea

how

much experience you've had with the mentally ill or what training you've

had

in that area. Those who are suicidal need KINDNESS and understanding.

Can

you imagine if professional therapists spoke to their ill patients like
Jabriol did to Chris? Jabbers was dealing with a mentally unbalanced

young

man who needed kindness, support and encouragement - not Jabriol's
suggestion that he, "knew what he had to do" i.e. kill himself. People

who

are more stable than Chris was could easily handle sociopathic sadists

like

Jabbers, Chris was much more vulnerable to suggestion and rejection.

Surely

you can set your personal feelings about Chris aside, and understand

this.


All that I can understand about it is this: if Chris was incompetent,
he should have been locked up.

* She had Jabriol's tormenting and gruesome descriptions of her son's
suicide coming to her? This mother was distraught and upset. What

mother

wouldn't be? Was ghoulish insults and tormenting posts supposed to help
her?


I wouldn't be interested in helping someone who accused me of murder.
She seems every bit as unbalanced as her son was.

* Jabriol would gladly "off" as he calls it, all the people who reject

the

teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses, if he could get away with it. He
uses the old testament to back his beliefs. He's told us many times

we're

all DEAD anyway. You wouldn't believe some of the things this man has
posted in the past years.


I've *witnessed* the things this man has said over the past years.
That is what you have to understand. We all didn't get computers
yesterday; many of us have been around for a while and feel that your
constant harping on Jabriol is just as annoying as Jabbers himself is.

* I don't know what country you're posting from but you cannot simply

have

people committed here in the USA. It's very difficult to say the least.


It isn't difficult at all. In much of the U.S. all it takes is one
family member and a medical professional (or cop) to get someone
locked up for 72 hours, at which point they have to go before a judge.
Copies of Chris' posts would have been sufficient evidence to commit
the guy.

If you had any experience with the mentally ill you'd know that the
most often heard complaint along these lines is that it is *too* easy
to lock someone up.

It's also very expensive and some insurance companies will not cover the
costs. I sounds like you disliked Chris and perhaps had some issues with
him and his posts.


Disliked? No. Pitied, yes. Like you, he was constantly beating dead
horses and posting every detail.

* But we don't know what really went on between him and his mother. We
don't know what she (or his family) tried to do or didn't do. In most
areas of the USA psychotherapy or any therapy for the

mentally/emotionally

ill is between $75 to $150 an hour - some places it's even more. Add

meds

to that. Some of these newer meds can run into a small fortune. The
support groups here on Usenet aren't the best places for support and I'll
agree with you there - but that may have been all this young man had.
Maybe it was all he or his family could afford (his net service bill).


Oh cry me a river. None of this serves to answer why you can't find
another hobby other than chasing Jabriol around and letting all of us
in on it.

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