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27 Mar 2005 01:24:32 PM |
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Re: It's So Sad |
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:44:17 -0500, "SandyG" <Mollypup1@emessen.com> wrote
in message <d2186001drh@news3.newsguy.com>:
A young girl has been coming to my home group for about the past 2-3
years. She has never been able to stay clean/sober. When she came to a
meeting, she would sit in the back, leave halfway through the meeting,
never share, etc. She did like to socialize with the guys in the room.
She had been through rehabs and detoxes many times. They never seemed to
do any good. She got pregnant about a year ago - had a baby who,
luckily, appears to be healthy.
This girl recently went to another rehab. She was quoted as saying that
she went to "get people off of her back". When she came home, she went
to a halfway house. She was kicked out a week later for having a dirty
urine, and went back to live with her parents and her baby.
One evening recently, she went in to take a bath and took her baby with
her. When she did not come out of the bathroom for a long length of
time, her folks went in to check on her. Apparently she had shot up some
heroin in the bathtub. She drowned. She was only 20 years old. Thank God
the baby was ok.
My heart aches for her, her baby, her parents. It was such a senseless,
needless death. Why oh WHY do some people just seem unable to get it?
She had all the tools right there at her feet - meetings, recovering
people who cared about her, knowledge about the disease, counselors,
etc. It's so sad....
anyone who uses heroin runs a large risk of overdosing due to varying
quality available on the street.
if heroin was legal, unintentional overdosing on it would be extremely rare.
for the sake of your children, legalise heroin before it kills them.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 01:27:19 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:24:32 +0200, "Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote:
anyone who uses heroin runs a large risk of overdosing due to varying
quality available on the street.
if heroin was legal, unintentional overdosing on it would be extremely rare.
for the sake of your children, legalise heroin before it kills them.
If she had had God in her life, she would never have considered such a thing.
No drugs for overdosing. Period.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mel" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 01:05:39 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:27:19 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
message <p9ne411jhdg5kk7verlgv41ssg3p6jd7p8@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:24:32 +0200, "Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote:
anyone who uses heroin runs a large risk of overdosing due to varying
quality available on the street.
if heroin was legal, unintentional overdosing on it would be extremely rare.
for the sake of your children, legalise heroin before it kills them.
If she had had God in her life, she would never have considered such a thing.
so you think. i was taken to church by my mother and i got quite
enthusiastically involved in it as a teenager.
trust me, the whole God trip does not work for a lot of people.
there are many many people who have tried God as an answer, and found that
there is nothing there for them.
No drugs for overdosing. Period.
that method has not worked at all. it is an abysmal failure in fact.
people need to recognise that others make different choices from them.
moralizing the issue of drug taking just clouds it. it's not a moral issue
at all. it's a very practical and physical thing.
heroin does not kill in and of itself.
illegal heroin kills.
it kills in two ways:
1. impurities, which are purposefully added by dodgy dealers to stretch the
stash out so they can make more profit.
2. the varying quality causes users to misjudge the amount to take.
at least, i didn't have this problem with crack cocaine.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 01:41:33 AM |
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TV's duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:24:32 +0200, "Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote:
anyone who uses heroin runs a large risk of overdosing due to varying
quality available on the street.
if heroin was legal, unintentional overdosing on it would be extremely
rare.
for the sake of your children, legalise heroin before it kills them.
If she had had God in her life, she would never have considered such a
thing.
No drugs for overdosing. Period.
Just pain, suffering, pain, torture, pain, torment, and more pain. Did I
mention pain?
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 05:41:11 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:41:33 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
TV's duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:24:32 +0200, "Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote:
anyone who uses heroin runs a large risk of overdosing due to varying
quality available on the street.
if heroin was legal, unintentional overdosing on it would be extremely
rare.
for the sake of your children, legalise heroin before it kills them.
If she had had God in her life, she would never have considered such a
thing.
No drugs for overdosing. Period.
Just pain, suffering, pain, torture, pain, torment, and more pain. Did I
mention pain?
Careful, you're getting Puke all excited.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 05:45:44 AM |
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been
suppressed or changed.
788. "I have reserved me seven thousand." I love the worshippers unknown to
the world and to the very prophets.
789. As Jesus Christ remained unknown among men, so His truth remains among
common opinions without external difference. Thus the Eucharist among
ordinary bread.
790. Jesus would not be slain without the forms of justice; for it is far
more ignominious to die by justice than by an unjust sedition.
791. The false justice of Pilate only serves to make Jesus Christ suffer;
for he causes Him to be scourged by his false justice, and afterwards puts
Him to death. It would have been better to have put Him to death at once.
Thus it is with the falsely just. They do good and evil works to please the
world, and to show that they are not altogether of Jesus Christ; for they
are ashamed of Him. And at last, under great temptation and on great
occasions, they kill Him.
792. What man ever had more renown? The whole Jewish people foretell Him
before His coming. The Gentile people worship Him after His coming. The two
peoples, Gentile and Jewish, regard Him as their centre.
And yet what man enjoys this renown less? Of thirty-three years, He lives
thirty without appearing. For three years He passes as an impostor; the
priests and the chief people reject Hi
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: It's So Sad |
28 Mar 2005 06:41:43 AM |
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no belief. The former fear to
lose Him; the latter fear to find Him.
263. "A miracle," says one, "would strengthen my faith." He says so when he
does not see one. Reasons, seen from afar, appear to limit our view; but
when they are reached, we begin to see beyond. Nothing stops the nimbleness
of our mind. There is no rule, say we, which has not some exceptions, no
truth so general which has not some aspect in which it fails. It is
sufficient that it be not absolutely universal to give us a pretext for
applying the exceptions to the present subject and for saying, "This is not
always true; there are therefore cases where it is not so." It only remains
to show that this is one of them; and that is why we are very awkward or
unlucky, if we do not find one some day.
264. We do not weary of eating and sleeping every day, for hunger and
sleepiness recur. Without that we should weary of them. So, without the
hunger for spiritual things, we weary of them. Hunger after righteousness,
the eighth beautitude.
265. Faith indeed tells what the senses do not tell, but not the contrary of
what they see. It is above them and not contrary to them.
266. How many stars have telescopes revealed to us which did not exist for
our philosophers of old! We freely attack Holy Scripture on the great number
of stars, saying, "There are only one thousand and twenty-eight, we know
it." There is grass on the earth, we see it--from the moon we would not see
it--and on the grass are leaves, and in these leaves are small animals; but
after that n
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