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"Kurt Nicklas" |
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07 Feb 2007 05:56:25 PM |
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Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is "nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
They don't have to. For them it's an article of faith...just like the
current freezing
temperatures and snow strorms are eveidence of "global warming".
You don't need reason to be Left. You only need faith.
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
07 Feb 2007 07:25:24 PM |
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"Kurt Dickless" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come to
the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is "nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
They don't have to.
No. The evidence is already out there. It was just a matter of noticing
it, Dickless.
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| User: "The World Wide Wade" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
09 Feb 2007 04:54:04 PM |
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In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is "nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
That's a pretty big matzah ball hanging out there.
They don't have to. For them it's an article of faith...just like the
current freezing
temperatures and snow strorms are eveidence of "global warming".
You don't need reason to be Left. You only need faith.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
10 Feb 2007 11:12:05 AM |
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"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in message
news:waderameyxiii-302C3B.14540409022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations have
ended."
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
"Uranium from Africa"
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "The World Wide Wade" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
11 Feb 2007 02:24:47 PM |
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In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in message
news:waderameyxiii-302C3B.14540409022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
12 Feb 2007 11:28:10 AM |
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"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in message
news:waderameyxiii-FC74F3.12244711022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Projections aren't stated in the past tense.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
It's a lie. He repeatedly said he would stay the course, and then
categorically denied it.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
It was a falsehood, and Bush knew it. Ergo, it was a lie.
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Yes, a lie. Iraq had no WMDs and Bush knew it.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there.
Everything Bush utters is a lie.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "3122 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
11 Feb 2007 05:52:51 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in message
news:waderameyxiii-302C3B.14540409022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Sure it was, in that it implied that Saddam had nuclear weapons.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
How about "With the fall of Baghdad, the Hussein-Osama alliance has
ended"?
--
"Keeping us up here eats away at families. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."
-- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), quoted by the Washington Post, in response to incoming-Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's (D-MD) plan to increase the House's work schedule from three days a week to five.
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| User: "The World Wide Wade" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
12 Feb 2007 01:34:05 AM |
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In article <3vavs29rv3sr8ejnhj05emc6me4grpojsh@4ax.com>,
3122 Dead <zepp22113122@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in
message
news:waderameyxiii-302C3B.14540409022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
When you say something has ended, you are actually making a
statement about the future. Think about it.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of
the Union address, 2003. Bush is referring to the Butler Report.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Report
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Sure it was, in that it implied that Saddam had nuclear weapons.
Absolutely false. Condi said "The problem here is that there will
always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire
nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a
mushroom cloud." Bush took up the "mushroom" lingo later: "Many
people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a
nuclear weapon. We don't know exactly, and that is the problem.
.... we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that
could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
How about "With the fall of Baghdad, the Hussein-Osama alliance has
ended"?
And where is that from?
"Keeping us up here eats away at families. The Democrats could care less
about families -- that's what this says."
-- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), quoted by the Washington Post, in response to
incoming-Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's (D-MD) plan to increase the House's
work schedule from three days a week to five.
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_news
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_essays
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| User: "3122 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: #It's up to the people to get Putsch impeached |
12 Feb 2007 06:08:56 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:05 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <3vavs29rv3sr8ejnhj05emc6me4grpojsh@4ax.com>,
3122 Dead <zepp22113122@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpublic@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in
message
news:waderameyxiii-302C3B.14540409022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article
<1170892585.517299.118860@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
When you say something has ended, you are actually making a
statement about the future. Think about it.
No, that's past tense.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of
the Union address, 2003. Bush is referring to the Butler Report.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Report
Yeah, the "sixteen words" that turned out to be a lie.
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Sure it was, in that it implied that Saddam had nuclear weapons.
Absolutely false. Condi said "The problem here is that there will
always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire
nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a
mushroom cloud." Bush took up the "mushroom" lingo later: "Many
people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a
nuclear weapon. We don't know exactly, and that is the problem.
... we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that
could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
How about "With the fall of Baghdad, the Hussein-Osama alliance has
ended"?
And where is that from?
"Keeping us up here eats away at families. The Democrats could care less
about families -- that's what this says."
-- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), quoted by the Washington Post, in response to
incoming-Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's (D-MD) plan to increase the House's
work schedule from three days a week to five.
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_news
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_essays
a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
--
"Keeping us up here eats away at families. The Democrats could care less about families -- that's what this says."
-- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), quoted by the Washington Post, in response to incoming-Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's (D-MD) plan to increase the House's work schedule from three days a week to five.
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_news
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/zepps_essays
a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
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12 Feb 2007 04:08:37 PM |
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On Feb 12, 4:08 am, 3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:05 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <3vavs29rv3sr8ejnhj05emc6me4grpo...@4ax.com>,
3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260...@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in
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"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
When you say something has ended, you are actually making a
statement about the future. Think about it.
No, that's past tense.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of
the Union address, 2003. Bush is referring to the Butler Report.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Report
Yeah, the "sixteen words" that turned out to be a lie.
LOL. Except the previous poster already established that
those sixteen words weren't a lie. Bush was referring to
the Butler Report. It's funny, Zippy never realizes when
a cite debunks him. Whether the claim is this one or
his equally goofy claim that Earth's surface temperatures
have increase 1.6 degrees in the last 50 years.
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Sure it was, in that it implied that Saddam had nuclear weapons.
Absolutely false. Condi said "The problem here is that there will
always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire
nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a
mushroom cloud." Bush took up the "mushroom" lingo later: "Many
people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a
nuclear weapon. We don't know exactly, and that is the problem.
... we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that
could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
Note the crickets.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
How about "With the fall of Baghdad, the Hussein-Osama alliance has
ended"?
And where is that from?
Note the crickets.
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On 12 Feb 2007 14:08:37 -0800, "Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:08 am, 3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:05 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <3vavs29rv3sr8ejnhj05emc6me4grpo...@4ax.com>,
3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260...@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in
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In article
<1170892585.517299.118...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
When you say something has ended, you are actually making a
statement about the future. Think about it.
No, that's past tense.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of
the Union address, 2003. Bush is referring to the Butler Report.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Report
Yeah, the "sixteen words" that turned out to be a lie.
LOL. Except the previous poster already established that
those sixteen words weren't a lie.
The claim wasn't true, was it? It doesn't matter whether Bush actually
believed it at the time he made the statement. It's still a lie.
Bush was referring to
the Butler Report. It's funny, Zippy never realizes when
a cite debunks him. Whether the claim is this one or
his equally goofy claim that Earth's surface temperatures
have increase 1.6 degrees in the last 50 years.
Actually, that's the majority of climatologists' "goofy claim."
"smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
Not a lie.
Sure it was, in that it implied that Saddam had nuclear weapons.
Absolutely false. Condi said "The problem here is that there will
always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire
nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a
mushroom cloud." Bush took up the "mushroom" lingo later: "Many
people have asked how close Saddam Hussein is to developing a
nuclear weapon. We don't know exactly, and that is the problem.
... we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that
could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
Note the crickets.
"I'm a uniter, not a divider"
"I'm going to bring dignity back to the White House"
"I, George Walker Bush, do solemnly swear to uphold the Constitution"
When you include those as lies, you weaken your argument. There
aren't that many bald-faced lies out there. "Ally of Al Qaeda" is
one. I think you can count Cheny's deranged insistence on an
Atta-Iraqi agent meeting in Czechoslovakia - as if that proved
anything - as another, but that's also in the "Ally of Al Qaeda"
category.
How about "With the fall of Baghdad, the Hussein-Osama alliance has
ended"?
And where is that from?
Note the crickets.
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12 Feb 2007 08:11:42 PM |
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On Feb 12, 3:27 pm, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 12 Feb 2007 14:08:37 -0800, "Shrikeback" <hewpied...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:08 am, 3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:34:05 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <3vavs29rv3sr8ejnhj05emc6me4grpo...@4ax.com>,
3122 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:24:47 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote:
In article <45cdf04a$0$16308$88260...@free.teranews.com>,
"Peacenik" <cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The World Wide Wade" <waderameyx...@comcast.remove13.net> wrote in
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In article
<1170892585.517299.118...@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Kurt Nicklas" <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come
to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of
Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is
no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is
"nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
"We have removed an ally of al-Qaida" -- Bush, May 1 2003, from
the deck of the USS Lincoln, referring to the removal of Saddam
Hussein.
Don't forget about "Mission Accomplished" and "Major combat operations
have
ended."
Those weren't lies; they were false projections.
Really? You don't often see verbs in projections that end in "-ed".
When you say something has ended, you are actually making a
statement about the future. Think about it.
No, that's past tense.
Other Bush lies:
"We've never been 'stay the course.'"
That's a silly mistake from a man whose brain is addled.
"Uranium from Africa"
That was British intelligence.
No, it wasn't.
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." State of
the Union address, 2003. Bush is referring to the Butler Report.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Report
Yeah, the "sixteen words" that turned out to be a lie.
LOL. Except the previous poster already established that
those sixteen words weren't a lie.
The claim wasn't true, was it? It doesn't matter whether Bush actually
believed it at the time he made the statement. It's still a lie.
From the Criticism of the Butler Report on wikipedia
Nuclear expert Norman Dombey has pointed out that the information
relied upon by the Butler Review on the Niger issue was incomplete;
as he noted, "The Butler report says the claim was credible because
an
Iraqi diplomat visited Niger in 1999, and almost three-quarters of
Niger's
exports were uranium. But this is irrelevant, since France controls
Niger's
uranium mines."(Independent, 25 July 2004).
I fail to see how France's control of Niger's uranium mines is
relevant,
since the government of France assisted Saddam in building a breeder
reactor way back when.
Bush was referring to
the Butler Report. It's funny, Zippy never realizes when
a cite debunks him. Whether the claim is this one or
his equally goofy claim that Earth's surface temperatures
have increase 1.6 degrees in the last 50 years.
Actually, that's the majority of climatologists' "goofy claim."
No, it isn't. The consensus is that the Earth's surface temperatures
have risen 1 degree Fahrenheit in the last century. I have posted
numerous cites on this to Zippy, and it's common knowledge, agreed
on by the vastest majority of climatologists you'd care to imagine,
yet
even in the face of facts, he still persisted in his goofy claim.
You may say that the two claims are not contradictory, but it doesn't
matter because no source I've found claims any more than a 1 degree
rise in the last fifty years either. (I say this because Zippy
claimed
there was a .6 degree cooling in the first fifty years.) I also still
have
no idea whether he means Celsius or Fahrenheit, either way it bears
no resemblence to what the majority of climatologists claim.
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07 Feb 2007 06:31:42 PM |
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On 7 Feb 2007 15:56:25 -0800, "Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is "nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
They don't have to. For them it's an article of faith...just like the
current freezing
temperatures and snow strorms are eveidence of "global warming".
You don't need reason to be Left. You only need faith.
One might argue that leftists like Zepp aren't really lying because
they seem to believe that if they wish for things strongly enough and
say it enough times it will eventually come true....
,,,unfortunately for Zepp, the chances of my name ever being Henry
Selvitella or of anyone ever going to jail for reporting their capital
gains on form 1040 are pretty slim.
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07 Feb 2007 06:58:03 PM |
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On 7 Feb 2007 15:56:25 -0800, "Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:27 am, The Captain <S...@Canyon.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:18 +0800, "Peacenik"
<cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"The Captain" <S...@Canyon.com> wrote in message
news:k5jhs29achj9hsie410e5id5fa3a88pmkc@4ax.com...
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:41:35 -0600, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Captain wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:17:50 -0800, 3098 Dead
<zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
Howard Zinn: Impeachment by the People
It's always sort of funny to watch leftist morons as they come to the
realization that the Democratic party is no more open to their
nonsense than the Republicans.
No one in the republican party dares defend the criminal acts of Bush.
<LOL> He needs no-one to defend him. First of all, there is no-one
to defend him from and second, he has done nothing that needs
defending.
Lying us into a disastrous quagmire of a war for oil profits is "nothing
that needs defending"?
You, nor anyone else, has come up with any evidence of him lying
They don't have to. For them it's an article of faith...just like the
current freezing
temperatures and snow strorms are eveidence of "global warming".
You don't need reason to be Left. You only need faith.
Says the good little Catholic boy who swears that the GOP is the only
path to Jesus.
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