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"Denis Loubet" |
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Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
31 Jul 2006 04:02:30 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
How does the right to free exercise of religion which shows that taxes are
unnecessary have any blame upon it?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
31 Jul 2006 04:41:45 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:bv6sc2d2gr8jn41ffv97q53lj7kbsrj8jr@4ax.com...
Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
How does the right to free exercise of religion which shows that taxes are
unnecessary have any blame upon it?
Well, I don't think that churches can exempt themselves from police, fire,
and EMT services. Instead, they take advantage of those expensive utilities
and pay nothing in return. Sweet for them, in a parasitical sort of way, I
suppose.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
31 Jul 2006 08:51:06 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:bv6sc2d2gr8jn41ffv97q53lj7kbsrj8jr@4ax.com...
Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
How does the right to free exercise of religion which shows that taxes
are unnecessary have any blame upon it?
Well, I don't think that churches can exempt themselves from police, fire,
and EMT services. Instead, they take advantage of those expensive
utilities and pay nothing in return.
I don't think they would if they needed them, and their members more than
likely pay taxes.
And, speaking of taxes, do you think people shouldn't rely upon the services
they are paying to fund?
Sweet for them, in a parasitical sort of way, I suppose.
I can see your point there. Currently, Church workers who draw wages are
taxed.
If we were to eliminate property taxes then this unequal protection would
cease to exist.
Major budget item, I know, but it isn't like it is impossible to eliminate
property taxes.
Property taxation seems usurious to me.
I assume they use the eminent domain provision couples with the
'constitutional authority" to levy property taxes to fund these 'essential'
services.
I still do not like property taxes because, imo, they do not fulfill the 4th
Amendment's provision to be safe and secure in our possesions and effects
against unreasonable search and seizure well enough.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
01 Aug 2006 06:29:45 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:bv6sc2d2gr8jn41ffv97q53lj7kbsrj8jr@4ax.com...
Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
How does the right to free exercise of religion which shows that taxes
are unnecessary have any blame upon it?
Well, I don't think that churches can exempt themselves from police,
fire, and EMT services. Instead, they take advantage of those expensive
utilities and pay nothing in return.
I don't think they would if they needed them,
Huh? They DO need them, and they DON'T pay for them.
and their members more than likely pay taxes.
And in return their houses and persons receive the services.
And, speaking of taxes, do you think people shouldn't rely upon the
services they are paying to fund?
People should rely on them. But the chruch isn't paying for any, and still
relies on them. That's unfair.
Sweet for them, in a parasitical sort of way, I suppose.
I can see your point there. Currently, Church workers who draw wages are
taxed.
If we were to eliminate property taxes then this unequal protection would
cease to exist.
Yes. But property taxes have not been eliminated.
Major budget item, I know, but it isn't like it is impossible to eliminate
property taxes.
Granted. But that's not the current state of affairs.
Property taxation seems usurious to me.
How you feel about it isn't the issue.
I assume they use the eminent domain provision couples with the
'constitutional authority" to levy property taxes to fund these
'essential' services.
I suppose so.
I still do not like property taxes because, imo, they do not fulfill the
4th Amendment's provision to be safe and secure in our possesions and
effects against unreasonable search and seizure well enough.
And that may very well be a valid viewpoint.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
01 Aug 2006 09:43:05 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:bv6sc2d2gr8jn41ffv97q53lj7kbsrj8jr@4ax.com...
Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants
no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
How does the right to free exercise of religion which shows that taxes
are unnecessary have any blame upon it?
Well, I don't think that churches can exempt themselves from police,
fire, and EMT services. Instead, they take advantage of those expensive
utilities and pay nothing in return.
I don't think they would if they needed them,
Huh? They DO need them, and they DON'T pay for them.
You are referring to the fact that Church Property is not assessed for those
services, correct?
I am sure the members pay their share to cover their personal belongings and
persons, correct?
Now it seems that the only part thing that would not qualify for protection
would be Church property itself, but the people would still have a right to
protection because they are individuals who pay for such protections.
And, if Churches are not covered, or people who are located on that
property, then no government property or person on such property would be
deserving of protection.
Governments pay ZERO for their protection.
Any more gripes?
and their members more than likely pay taxes.
And in return their houses and persons receive the services.
Persons are eligible for these services regardless of their location.
To say that Church property does not deserve the protection it to say that
government property deserves no protection.
And, speaking of taxes, do you think people shouldn't rely upon the
services they are paying to fund?
People should rely on them. But the church isn't paying for any,
The government pays ZERO in property taxes.
Therefore, according to your reasoning it is unfair for government property
to receive any protections.
and still relies on them.
So does the government.
That's unfair.
How so?
LOL!
The government pays no property taxes.
The big difference is that the Church isn't CHARGING the people property
taxes.
Any more bitches you want to hurl against the Church for the benefit of
usurious governments that pay NOTHING for their services?
LOL!
Sweet for them, in a parasitical sort of way, I suppose.
I can see your point there. Currently, Church workers who draw wages are
taxed.
If we were to eliminate property taxes then this unequal protection would
cease to exist.
Yes. But property taxes have not been eliminated.\
True.
But, the governments pay zero property tax themselves.
So, how would you aright this?
I would eliminate property taxation entirely.
Major budget item, I know, but it isn't like it is impossible to
eliminate property taxes.
Granted. But that's not the current state of affairs.
True.
Property taxation seems usurious to me.
How you feel about it isn't the issue.
You sure?
I assume they use the eminent domain provision couples with the
'constitutional authority" to levy property taxes to fund these
'essential' services.
I suppose so.
I still do not like property taxes because, imo, they do not fulfill the
4th Amendment's provision to be safe and secure in our possesions and
effects against unreasonable search and seizure well enough.
And that may very well be a valid viewpoint.
To look on the hopeful side, the USA is 230 years an independent nation.
Possibly we will move forward on issues such as this one.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
02 Aug 2006 10:05:57 AM |
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:29:45 -0500, "Denis Loubet"
<dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Well, I don't think that churches can exempt themselves from police,
fire, and EMT services. Instead, they take advantage of those expensive
utilities and pay nothing in return.
I don't think they would if they needed them,
Huh? They DO need them, and they DON'T pay for them.
and their members more than likely pay taxes.
So do the patrons of bars, dance hall and ***** houses.
But those businesses still pay taxes. Churches are
parasites.
And in return their houses and persons receive the services.
And, speaking of taxes, do you think people shouldn't rely upon the
services they are paying to fund?
Of course they should, however Churches don't pay for
services they expect. Parasites.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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01 Aug 2006 10:30:04 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:59:43 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:bv6sc2d2gr8jn41ffv97q53lj7kbsrj8jr@4ax.com...
Yep, another J Young Christian moral superiority
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-churches31jul31,1,2582684.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Churches Putting Town Out of Business
Stafford, Texas, has 51 tax-exempt religious institutions and wants no
more: `Somebody's got to pay for police, fire and schools.'
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
July 31, 2006
STAFFORD, Texas - They are not the words one expects to hear from a
politician or a Southerner, and Leonard Scarcella is both: "Our city
has an excessive number of churches."
Scarcella is mayor of this Houston-area community, which has 51
churches and other religious institutions packed into its 7 square
miles.
The town shares the blame for creating an exploitable situation.
The churches share the blame for exploiting it.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 51 times....
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| User: "ef_hutterite" |
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| Title: Re: J Young Rightwig Christian Morality: Tax-Exempt Churches BankruptTown |
01 Aug 2006 11:44:30 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:30:04 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Fool me 51 times....
Or more.
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